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Lin is an apparition 

Lin isn't human

Shade is somehow connected to Giritina.

Craudburry is secretly your mom

Amethyst will appear post her death. Lots of dead people do that anyway, or simply refuse to stay dead!

That Saphira uses a Mega-Charizard X 

Fern might be a secret agent for the league placed by Ame and only her

Our player character is not a human

Taka will return from the dead and deliver a good ass-kicking to Team Meteor together with the player :D

(YESyesyesyesyes headcanon!) 

Lin is your mummy uwu

at some point I thought "what if Lin is Arceus" but I don't really remember why. I had a reason though!

our character is secretely allied with Lin and that´s why she didn´t destroyed us in any moment we met

Our character is a wanted fugitive is my dream for ep19, 10/10 would play.

you will be able to get legendaries before the elite four, not the strong ones, but the weak ones like artucuno o something

Lin is all the friends we made along the way.

Fern is true champion of Reborn League, Lin is Meteor Agent Ace, Taka is the winner of Labradorra b00ty Tournament.

A tower of doom will appear in Agate Circus.

2 hours ago, Spedy said:

at some point I thought "what if Lin is Arceus" but I don't really remember why. I had a reason though!

I will take you comment to make it even better: Lin WILL become the champion (replacing Amy) and we will have to fight her at the great end of all events. But there is a plus, a HUGE plus: Her trumph card isnt her Hydreigon; she WILL manage to catch Archeus and PULSE evolve it. THATS RIGHT BOYS: PULSE ARCHEUS IS A FACT!

1 hour ago, Cadmium48 said:

The Labradorra Tournament of Booty is real!

I hope this more than anything else in the entire game! Terra is my waifu! lol

This is small, but Laura + Bennet will be a double battle in the elite 4. It makes too much sense to not happen!

Fern gonna be on the player side after meteor starts losing and taka will be just fine in both routes

- The entire game was a hallucination conjured by the main character as they are trapped in T4RR4's mansion, awaiting the Tournament of B00ty.

- There is a PULSE we have not seen yet, besides PULSE Mr. Mime, Clawitzer, Arceus, and Pulse-2:  PULSE Budew. And Lin has five of them to go with Hydreigon.

- Since Anna could see the player glowing through a locked door, the Player is the

- There will be more branching story paths, similar to the Reshiram/Zekrom routes

- Pokedex quest lady will ask us to round up Ultra Beasts now.

- There will be a paint can so we can turn our Pokemon Shiny.

- Shade is Euphie.

- Meteor Ace is Euphie.

- Lin is Euphie.

- The Player is Euphie.

- The real Euphie was the friends we made along the way.

Lin died in the orphanage and now is a puppet/vessel for some sort of godlike power, possibly Arceus trying to escape it's prison

as someone who hasn't even beaten titania yet, I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that Julia is the true final boss

Lin doesn't share the same objective as the rest of Team Meteor, and Team Meteor's leadership has known this for a while now - but they don't have a way to deal with her, and saying "you're no longer in charge" to her face is... blatantly unwise.

the entirety of pokemon reborn is happening inside of heather's imagination (she wants adventure, not daddy issues)

Lin is a dirty unaware block toxic recover recycle leppa berry pyukumuku user who deserves to be damned to burn in the eternal lake of fire of hell for all of eternity for her sins.

Lin and Terra are linked by the orphanage and Sigmund in some way.

Each of them has shown non-human abilities: Lin and Sigmund's surviving otherwise lethal incidents, and Terra's

bizarre ability to create a data world (world creation? Arceus?)

None of the other characters we've seen have had abilities that I would genuinely call supernatural with the exception of the Shade (might never have even been human) and El with his Arceus-ditto mojo. At least, as far as I can remember, might be missing some.

The torture scene in the opening sequence has been removed.

In the route where Taka dies and appears in the void, there's some way to later get him back.

In the route where Taka hasn't died yet, he'll die at some point in e19.

The Lin fight will include at least one pokemon she stole from Ame, probably the Alolan ninetails she used in Titania's gym.

Eclipse will not get her soul back.

There will be a sidequest related to the guy harassing the woman outside the Lapis ward pokemart.

The battle against Furret+Bibarel in Postgame Perils - Pokemon Punchup, Painfully Powerful will be against the two kids in Peridot ward who want to catch a pokemon strong enough to impress Youngster Joey and his top-tier rattata.  

The TM for swords dance will not be available until the postgame; likewise volt switch and u-turn.

I don't know, but I'm SUPER hyped! I can't wait for it to come out!

Wait! I do have a guess. Is Lin actually Arceus? I think what we saw foreshadowed in Shade's gym was her bursting forth with Arceus's glory.

1 hour ago, JaceBel said:

I don't know, but I'm SUPER hyped! I can't wait for it to come out!

 

Wait! I do have a guess. Is Lin actually Arceus? I think what we saw foreshadowed in Shade's gym was her bursting forth with Arceus's glory.

I actually remember those scenes, i think there was: the suicide, Kiki's death, someone exploding... man i want to replay it! But sure will wait the release

Ame finally admits she hates water type starters

the secret final boss and champion is ame, who arceus revives, and then ame tells the player that she is their mom

5 hours ago, R.B said:

The TM for swords dance will not be available until the postgame; likewise volt switch and u-turn.

It has been confirmed that all TMs will be available before the e4 so no

No clue who this Lin person is everyone's talking about since I never played the game yet.

That being said, Lin is 100% Hank Hills reincarnation for sure.

-Anna and Lin are two halves of one whole body

-Lin and Ame are actually in cahoots; Ame's death was either staged OR her death was planned between them for some sinister purpose

-Bysbyxion Wasteland will turn into a grassland as part of the Shaymin quest

-At some point in Labradorra, we will have all our mons/items taken away, and we must sneak past Meteor Grunts to get them back, a la Chrono Trigger

Lin is somehow connected to Fern and Florinia, judging by Fern's willingness to join Team Meteor (could just be tomfoolery) and the cold calculating personality she shares with Florinia. Could be familial, perhaps.

Lin hasn't dealt with the player character because she recognises them as having the potential to stop her. In her mind, she wants us to be a strong as we can possibly be, so that when she crushes us once and for all, it will be the pinnacle of all she's achieved. Her sadism and lust for utter victory will be both her driving factor and her downfall.

                                                                                   Lin=Budew

4 hours ago, EXNativo said:

Lin hasn't dealt with the player character because she recognises them as having the potential to stop her. In her mind, she wants us to be a strong as we can possibly be, so that when she crushes us once and for all, it will be the pinnacle of all she's achieved. Her sadism and lust for utter victory will be both her driving factor and her downfall.

Maybe that's her desire after all... now I propose a new 'train' of thoughts: has anyone here played the PS1 Xenogears?

Well, basically tells the story of this post-apocalyptic future with relics from an ancient civilization (with giant robots and stuff, but it doesn't matter right now) and stuff.

My point is: there is this guy, Krellian, who is actually the mastermind of everything. He manipulated a Senate of AI's and even an immortal emperor to achieve his utmost goal: to reach and tread at God's own dimension.

The thing is: I can see some of it in Reborn and Lin's existence: someone with undeniable power, using everything and everyone to reach God (Arceus). Remember when Anna said she couldn't see anyone on top of Hydreigon? Maybe that's her objective: to find existence with God, or maybe to find someone who could set her free from her prison of soul and flesh.

I'm certain there is something like that.

- Lin is freed in the end
- Solaris dies and Taka lives
- Amaria and Titania resolve their relationship in good terms
- Anna is the Champion

Jirachi fullfills my wish

Everything Lin did was part of her masterplan devised for one and one purpose only - to impress her lord and senpai Sir Suss Sussington,  rumored to be even more powerful and mysterious than our ghost overseer Shade. Little is known about aforementioned individual, the only sign of his existence was found on a certain tombstone at the beryl cementery..

..but even that lead was lost due to a cleft in time.

Some said he transcended this mortal realm never to come back, leaving that one trace of his existence as a warning. Others claimed he'll be back someday, bringing a New Dawn upon this world. Sceptics stated everyone was overreacting. Some people ate waffles. Who is right? No one knows. Most don't care. Me? I prefer pancakes.

No thanks. I’ve got a fridge stuffed wi- *headshot*

This is not a guess but a question, what happened to the doors that were all over reborn before?

2 minutes ago, padamoce said:

This is not a guess but a question, what happened to the doors that were all over reborn before?

I think they were for Legendarys..
Got removed because the devs had other plans i think

On 1/30/2022 at 2:39 AM, Valor Above All said:

Shade is somehow connected to Giritina.

FTFY

Shame i got here left. But what i will always wish for is the character can physically punch someone ingame, like i dunno Fern or Blake 

Solaris and El are secretely married.

There's no reason for them to keep it a secret, they're just unecessarily dramatic like that.

Primal Arceus will exist and Lin will control them

Lin is arceus?

1 hour ago, SpenceMcFence said:

Primal Arceus will exist and Lin will control them

I think its more like PULSE Arceus, but yeah.

God... I can only think how hard will that be to defeat! No Perish song will help us, that's for sure

I'm pretty sure that the champion WILL be someone we met already- even briefly, but I'm sure Ame stays dead. (Probs will be Lin as everyone already said)

Shade will definetly get more involved in the story, I'm not sure how. A npc told us that someone got mad trying to beat Shade, they might get involved as well.

Arceus will definetly be a boss or something among those ranks, and El will have something to do with it (ofcourse lol)

Anna (and Noel?) will surely play a major role in EP19 as well. I'm willing to bet that Anna has something to do with Lin 100% anyways.
 

We're going to meet Evil Cain, who is completely straight.

I think I have posted this a looong time ago once, but...

Back in Shade's gym, we did saw Lin "exploded" right?

I think that vision was somehow "distorted", just like how many of us interpreted Amaria jumping off that waterfall as Titania pushing her.

Perhaps, what actually is gonna happen to Lin is just like what the game title suggests.

"Reborn"

My guess is that she is somehow going to absorb the power of Arceus, got ascended to something beyond human, and her mortal coil simply gets left behind and shatters...

I was too late for my crackpot theories but Cass, while you have already used the 5 T-shirts I want to offer my dumbass ideas for your T-shirt Cannon!

It all revolves around the Jasper Prophecy.

The prophesy talks about an alternative timeline where you don't exist. Fern fights Meteor with Arc, Cal, Lin (not Anna, this is the crackpot part,), and Shade (!?)

Fern ultimately fails and Arceus comes to destroy and recreate the world, but Lin wishes for the world to be remade but with someone strong enough to stop Arceus after they're released. Lin could stop Meteor now, but she can't beat Arceus itself, so she needs to become a villain to create enough of a challenge for you to become strong enough to beat Arceus. Shade was in the original party but died or something before the timeline reset so she's spooky now (ok that one's a stretch but we don't have much to go on for Shade)

C'mon, a theory this nutty deserves to either get a cannon or to be canon, your call :)

Lin was a zombie this whole time.

Lin has Eternal Magekyou Sharingan and thus can spawn Izanagi or Obito's Kamui indefinitely to stay unharmed.

Lin probably has Victini, this isn't the first time Reborn agrees with insane Pokedex entries

Solaris sent the invite to the player to join the reborn league to make them strong enough to stop Solaris if he lost himself to his mission

Not sure about the whole Victini thing.

If we're doing literal Pokedex entries, then we can go ahead with Pulse-Apocalypse: Magcargo

18,000 degrees is twice as hot as the Earth's core. Team Meteor could just drop one on Reborn city, and that'd be it for everyone.

I am SO excited for this game to be finished! I just completed another run-through and I am sitting here like a kid waiting for Christmas Presents.

On 1/30/2022 at 6:09 PM, Valor Above All said:

Shade is somehow connected to Giritina.

I actually did a whole piece on that!

The true treasure is the maniacals we call friends we made along the way.

Oh and Lin is literally a Xianxia Protagonist that want to make Arceus a pill.

I'm a bit late, but gotta say this. *Puts tinfoil hat on*

The pokedex quest lady is the final boss. Lin She needs all of the pokemon in a single pc in order to trigger the true final fight.

Oh, I came too late to get Maude Flanders'd- I'd go on and make more of a joke along those lines, but I get the feeling a water type might get ideas and I don't wanna be called Lord Explosion Murder cause of it. Super nerdy references and my blatant lateness aside, Fern was the first protagonist of world 1, before it became reborn because Fern and Co sucked too much to save it, making a wish on the power to bring somebody who could in fact save the world. That somebody is the current player character, who was meant to die on the very start inside that train as he/she/they did back in THE WORLD R1 - ahem, back in the first timeline. It might also be that the world isn't being reset, but re-written, by some higher power that Lin is capable of interacting with, allowing her the ability to just place in objects that weren't there before.

Oh, I'm writing all this based on my faulty memory from the last time I played, so I can't quite go into detail as I like. 

the other theory on Lin's power is meta, or as I like to call it, super corny af idea from Ame playing Undertale that is kinda cringe lmfao, and is it just me or is the title approaching japanese light novel in length - That is to say, Terra and Lin are aware they're inside of a game, and Lin can do a cool Monica impression..

There is no Champion any longer, you become champion by default by saving Reborn, because I get the feeling that you big brains realized that if your flavour text includes champion of Reborn land is protector of Reborn Land, then thwarting Lin or whatever Last Boss behind the scenes there is makes one the Champion.... after also beating the Elite 4 or whatevs.

That was my Ted Talk.

If you feel inclined to answer, confirm or deny any of these ideas, theories, I'd think that'd be neat, and my ego will make me think I'm special, yey.

Seriously, though. This is a good game regardless of the story, I especially loved the lv 1 Aaron trainer. It shows how well you people developed the terrain effect, the core mechanics of the game, and while I do love games primarily for the story, I also love a well made one, so whatever the ending is, as we expect it or not, I'm stoked to play and view it.

Alright here's my hallucinating mumbling

The worlds from Reborn and Rejuvenation are in fact 2 alternate realities or parallel universes. Everything that happened in Reborn thus far have their ''copy'' that happened or will happen in Rejuvenation. Whats more,

every character in Reborn have their counterpart in Rejuvenation. They mostly share nature and role in story with each other.

On 2/1/2022 at 6:01 PM, Vertex74 said:

I think I have posted this a looong time ago once, but...

Back in Shade's gym, we did saw Lin "exploded" right?

I think that vision was somehow "distorted", just like how many of us interpreted Amaria jumping off that waterfall as Titania pushing her.

Perhaps, what actually is gonna happen to Lin is just like what the game title suggests.

"Reborn"

My guess is that she is somehow going to absorb the power of Arceus, got ascended to something beyond human, and her mortal coil simply gets left behind and shatters...

Ok so a bit late to the party but the general idea is that Lin's objective is to free Arceus and remake the world, hence the world would be "Reborn". 
As for Lin's death itself, we see Lin die in Never After without actually dying. 
The main theory of this is that the Lin we see isn't actually a person, it's a sort of puppet. The child we hear in the Citae'd'astrae, Glitch World and Black Hole is actual child Lin (that Laura and Sigmund hint at) who, through whatever magic exists within the Citadel, hasn't aged since she went down there, similarly to Adrienn, and is using the adult Lin to pull strings to get the 4 keys and release Arceus.
This would explain why adult Lin is so much older than the child from the orphanage, and why adult Lin doesn't quite seem "human". She falls asleep and wakes up at seemingly random intervals like some wierd narcolepsy, she doesn't die from being stabbed, and she seemingly doesn't have a soul, implied by the fact that Anna couldn't see anyone riding the Hydreigon above Tanzan Mountain. In the WTC, Shade tells us something along the lines of "Four screens foretold four souls' fortune forsaken. For, forsooth, from foreshadowed, only two will be taken".
So pretty much, the screens predicted four deaths, but out of these only 2 die. Since Kiki and Corey already died, this feels like a fake out to tell us that Lin doesn't actually die as the screen forshadows. But, if Lin doesn't actually have a soul, then she might still die, and only two souls would be taken.

On 2/9/2022 at 12:10 PM, Monium2022 said:

Alright here's my hallucinating mumbling

 

The worlds from Reborn and Rejuvenation are in fact 2 alternate realities or parallel universes. Everything that happened in Reborn thus far have their ''copy'' that happened or will happen in Rejuvenation. Whats more,

every character in Reborn have their counterpart in Rejuvenation. They mostly share nature and role in story with each other.

I didn't get your statement.

Rejuvenation is already confirmed to take place "many" years after Reborn and "in the same universe".

Rejuv spoiler alert!

I think Lin's dead already. "The power" from Grand Stairway has just taken control over her body to gather all keys togheter and to bring new world order.

There was this one theory on YouTube a while back basically saying that several characters are "agents" for legendary Pokemon to exert their influence on the world.  I remember something like this being the case in Insurgence, but as I'm told we don't mention that here.  I do believe it hold some water, even though the ship is the Pirates of the Carribean's Flying Dutchman: it's perpetually sinking.

Looking at Lin's backstory, feats during the game, and impressions left by other characters, I think we can establish that she has some form of Arceus' power, and if we're going by this "agent" theory, she's not really an agent of Arceus. I think that role might actually be the player.   Lin might have has some mix up with either some other, more darker legendaries, or is influenced by or is influencing a twisted, evil amalgamation of arceus' power brought on from her state of mind/sadistic nature.  

I forget who said it, one of the kids through, maybe Charlotte or Noel (Painter), but during their stay at the orphanage, Lin really wasn't well in the head. I think Lin's mental state, when eclipsed with Arceus' power during their meeting from Dr. Connal dumping her off the side of the Grand Gate, brought rise to the Lin we interact with in the story. That mental state could have either corrupted the blessing, "stolen" a part of Arceus, or Arceus messed up by giving life to the wrong person.  

Throughout the story, she make no open or suggested hostilities towards us, only towards those we either associate with, or those who act as obstacles to furthering her agenda, even though we haven't a clue what that involves yet. This is evident in both the Devon building raid and the interactions of Solaris, Sirius, and ZEL regarding the topic of Lin.  

During the Devon raid, Team Meteor turns the tables and captures everyone. You are the only one who walks away without injury. Victoria got electrocuted, Adrian was thrown into a toaster, Arclight got his eye yanked out, and Ame got straight up murdered right in front of you. Furthermore, she tells you where to go after the gym battle with Titania, to the point where Titania calls into question if you are on their side, and proceeds to talk philosophy while displaying her blessing powers by popping a relic the size of a building out of nowhere in the battle for Agate City. Her sadistic orphanage behavior took a turn for the worse because the 3 Meteors mentioned practically beg for you to play along acting like you're one of them just so they walk out of the Tanzan mountain base with their lives.

Regarding the relation between us and Arceus, several characters hint at it, but it isn't explicitly stated. Anna makes several comments on your "glowiness" and Bennett (could be the wrong person, idk) said you are the golden child, never seeing a loss and being respected/admired by the main cast of characters. Not to mention the way you are "guided" by Lin for a good chunk of the story either directly or very indirectly.  

What I think will happen in the story is that Lin will use you as a lure to capture Arceus.  Hell, maybe she's even subdued another legendary or mythical. She has a 100% winrate in the AI tournament held about a month ago. Maybe this could be the story reason for it.  In the other fangame I shall not name again, lest Amethyst spite me and I piss off the Reborn Gods, their champion you face at the end of the story has 2 bullshit pokemon, 1 bullshit mega, and 2 legendaries while having only 1 regular pokemon.  He isn't nearly as tough as he could be, but over half the team belongs in Ubers while the best you've got access to is OU. 

Remaking the whole field effects systems caught my eye. Does it mean there will be new moves and new features added to the existent ones? I am very curious about this.