Dausk 5 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) Does anyone have any idea (or theory) about the potential relevance (or significance) of gardevoir and absol in the dual prophecies? Edited May 30 by Dausk Link to post Share on other sites
Node15 33 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Gardevoir is an icon of sorts and Absol is said to bring disaster maybe it's related to how Absol signals Darkness and Gardevoir symbolizes the potential for light (Until Indriad's Gardevoir wrecks this theory.) Link to post Share on other sites
Crystalrage 74 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 hours ago, Node15 said: Gardevoir is an icon of sorts and Absol is said to bring disaster maybe it's related to how Absol signals Darkness and Gardevoir symbolizes the potential for light (Until Indriad's Gardevoir wrecks this theory.) Maybe its the opposite Absol warns us from danger and Gardevoir brings danger Also I wonder what happened to Indriad's Gardevoir when we met him in present time in the sewers Link to post Share on other sites
Gengar768 43 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 7 hours ago, Dausk said: Does anyone have any idea (or theory) about the potential relevance (or significance) of gardevoir and absol in the dual prophecies? Personally i think they represent the two routes your adventure could go in For example Absol represents disater and darkness(the bad ending) and garrdevoir represents fairys and pureness (the good ending) also note that there both prophieces meaning one of them is bound to be true (also to add to this jan said in a q&a that theres multiple endings good and bad(think of this as how undertale worked)) Link to post Share on other sites
Crystalrage 74 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 That decisive battle for the future will take place in the other castle near blacksteeple of course Link to post Share on other sites
Gengar768 43 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 speaking of the decisive battle i wonder which 4 are gonna be on the good side and the other 4 on the bad more importantly though whos gonna be the one to betray?(i think it was betray or cut down destiney or something edgy like that??) Link to post Share on other sites
Crystalrage 74 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 I have a feeling that it will be melia who will betray us. Madame X said that her light will be hers. Could it mean that somehow melia will be blackmailed or controlled by madame x into betraying us? Link to post Share on other sites
Gengar768 43 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 i somewhat agree with that except instead of Melia i think its Erin? I dont know but i feel that melia is fighting for something for her friends for the player and ESPICALLY for venam it wouldnt make sense for melia to betray us like that(though if she did maybe itd be for venam or the player) but Erin..Shes experienced so much sadness and rejection(by the kids hell by souta even by idraid her damn father and to a sterch Anathea) she didnt have anybody she was just tossed into the unkown dimension forgotten about unlike melia infact melias always took the spotlight away from erin in away like with her powers, her friends, her life everything and i think Erin is going to get jealous and lash out at some point Also to support this think of the pokemon they use Melia uses a Mega Gardevoir(Light prophecey) While Erin uses a mega Absol(Dark prophecy) coincedence? Link to post Share on other sites
The Bookworm 0 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) After you fight Risa Raider in Zone Zero, she states that she saw Aelita and Venam's tournament battles (which was obviously impossible) Since Comet is stuck looking like us, do you think that it was Cosmia impersonating them, or maybe the Beheeyem trick?? A lot of people think Risa is the red haired girl and that could make more sense with the tournament doppelgangers Edited May 30 by The Bookworm Link to post Share on other sites
iiiiitamar 1 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 7 hours ago, Crystalrage said: I have a feeling that it will be melia who will betray us. Madame X said that her light will be hers. Could it mean that somehow melia will be blackmailed or controlled by madame x into betraying us? I Actually think it would be Reina, betrayed by her brother in some way. 6 hours ago, The Bookworm said: After you fight Risa Raider in Zone Zero, she states that she saw Aelita and Venam's tournament battles (which was obviously impossible) Since Comet is stuck looking like us, do you think that it was Cosmia impersonating them, or maybe the Beheeyem trick?? A lot of people think Risa is the red haired girl and that could make more sense with the tournament doppelgangers She may have said that to distract Aelita. Link to post Share on other sites
Mindlack 121 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 8 hours ago, Gengar768 said: i somewhat agree with that except instead of Melia i think its Erin? I dont know but i feel that melia is fighting for something for her friends for the player and ESPICALLY for venam it wouldnt make sense for melia to betray us like that(though if she did maybe itd be for venam or the player) but Erin..Shes experienced so much sadness and rejection(by the kids hell by souta even by idraid her damn father and to a sterch Anathea) she didnt have anybody she was just tossed into the unkown dimension forgotten about unlike melia infact melias always took the spotlight away from erin in away like with her powers, her friends, her life everything and i think Erin is going to get jealous and lash out at some point Also to support this think of the pokemon they use Melia uses a Mega Gardevoir(Light prophecey) While Erin uses a mega Absol(Dark prophecy) coincedence? Nice catch about the Mega Pokemon. Although, I can't really bring myself to see Erin as a traitor. She's found friends, which she lacked her whole life... I can't find plausible a genuine betrayal. However, there could definitely be a more convoluted scheme where a smart enough opponent impersonates an obviously corruptive character, whom Erin wouldn't trust, that suggests bad decisions, and a few very good ones. (spoilers for Star Wars 3) Spoiler A bit like when Palpatine suggests for Anakin to go attack General Grievous, while knowing full well that Anakin switching sides (upon seeing him wounded and dying) was crucial to his plan. By this point, he has made himself sufficiently distrusted by the Jedi Council, so that they will oppose any of his suggestions about their internal business. Or Erin pretends to betray the group at a smart opponent's (pretending to be dumb) request; except that the seemingly innocuous action he asked her to take was really damaging. Or she starts going in way over her head trying that and it gets almost impossible to bail out. Link to post Share on other sites
TheVentusX 23 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 On 5/30/2020 at 8:42 AM, Crystalrage said: Also I wonder what happened to Indriad's Gardevoir when we met him in present time in the sewers After our battle in the Hiyoshi past, Indriad left her to die since she lost to us and wasn't useful to him anymore. 22 hours ago, The Bookworm said: After you fight Risa Raider in Zone Zero, she states that she saw Aelita and Venam's tournament battles (which was obviously impossible) Since Comet is stuck looking like us, do you think that it was Cosmia impersonating them, or maybe the Beheeyem trick?? A lot of people think Risa is the red haired girl and that could make more sense with the tournament doppelgangers I believe it was either Cosmia or both happened to be there through time travelling (would also explain Venam's different personalty which Risa noticed, as she changed and became more responsible). Regarding Risa being the red haired woman, it is hard to believe, as Risa is strictly against Team Xen, so why should her "real" identity help Madame X. Either she has a split personality or when Risa was hospitalized, the red haired girl took her identity or they connected somehow (would explain why Risa was miraculously healed) but for now the only hint is their similar hair structure, but that could also mean that Zumi is the red haired girl, as she also has similar hair Link to post Share on other sites
TheHellHamster 9 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 7 hours ago, TheVentusX said: but for now the only hint is their similar hair structure You're forgetting that TuffPuff has the same base stats and moveset as red hair's Naganadel which is just a little suspisious. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Node15 33 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) So does that mean that Risa fending off Team Xen just a lie and that they just don't enter the city well that + Cassandra being mayor would leave GDC very vulnerable. Edited May 31 by Node15 Link to post Share on other sites
Nexen57 7 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 When you first meet Irvin in Amberette Town and there is the speech about Storm-9.There have been a few things that caught my attention: Melia says they'll refer it as Storm-9 and Irvin coughs and says "Yes,Storm-9": this must mean that it's not the true name of the disaster that happened. Then they say that Team Xen should be the one behind it . So it means that it's a disaster made by Team Xen and we should do everything to stop it and that's something we should care of. Could it be the Xenpurgis? Puppet Master told us to beware of it and Flora knows what it's about so it has to be something big.The name fits as well : a thing used to exterminate everyone who isn't part of Team Xen because they are the one behind it. Irvin is also a very strange guy if he coughed when Melia said that it's called Storm-9 that means it's not the original name but why would he not tell us the true name? The only known Stormchasers are special characters like Crescent,Korrina,Spacea and Tiempa. They all are characters who know everything important in the story apart from Korrina maybe Irvin will play a bigger role in the story later because he is the only Stormchaser who did nothing in the story. Link to post Share on other sites
Crystalrage 74 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 1 hour ago, Nexen57 said: When you first meet Irvin in Amberette Town and there is the speech about Storm-9.There have been a few things that caught my attention: Melia says they'll refer it as Storm-9 and Irvin coughs and says "Yes,Storm-9": this must mean that it's not the true name of the disaster that happened. Then they say that Team Xen should be the one behind it . So it means that it's a disaster made by Team Xen and we should do everything to stop it and that's something we should care of. Could it be the Xenpurgis? Puppet Master told us to beware of it and Flora knows what it's about so it has to be something big.The name fits as well : a thing used to exterminate everyone who isn't part of Team Xen because they are the one behind it. Irvin is also a very strange guy if he coughed when Melia said that it's called Storm-9 that means it's not the original name but why would he not tell us the true name? The only known Stormchasers are special characters like Crescent,Korrina,Spacea and Tiempa. They all are characters who know everything important in the story apart from Korrina maybe Irvin will play a bigger role in the story later because he is the only Stormchaser who did nothing in the story. Maybe he's just a puppet of Spacea and Tiempa, just like Jenner. I have a feeling that we might just be betrayed by the stormchasers at some point. Also the Karrina's change in behavior has made me suspicious of her. (if you have done the Karen side quest you will know what I am talking about) Link to post Share on other sites
Nexen57 7 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 I find Karrina's cahnge of behavior normal.She is with her parent's killer: getting crazy about meeting Karen is normal for her she wants to venge them.THere's nothing suspicious in that I think. Link to post Share on other sites
Crystalrage 74 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 But we helped Karen at the last. So it could also mean that she might hold a grudge against us for helping her parents killer. Link to post Share on other sites
iiiiitamar 1 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 5 hours ago, Nexen57 said: I find Karrina's cahnge of behavior normal.She is with her parent's killer: getting crazy about meeting Karen is normal for her she wants to venge them.THere's nothing suspicious in that I think. But in the "hidden library 3" quest Karrina is calm when she sees Karen, unlike in the castle when she tries to kill Karen. Link to post Share on other sites
Crystalrage 74 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 6 hours ago, iiiiitamar said: But in the "hidden library 3" quest Karrina is calm when she sees Karen, unlike in the castle when she tries to kill Karen. Could it be that she used some kind of garufan magic and that changed her persona Link to post Share on other sites
Edo 153 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 1 hour ago, Crystalrage said: Could it be that she used some kind of garufan magic and that changed her persona Maybe the spell she used on Karen backfired, as usual for garufan magic, and changed her as a result? Although I don't think her character was out of the ordinary, seemed normal to me to react this way to your parents' murderer. In part 3 she was probably just surprised to see her again, or didn't bother to argue with a loco Karen since she wouldn't even care, which is probably the reason why she reverted Karen's mind to normal before exacting revenge. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Van Cren 3 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Does anyone else think Hazuki will be key to rescuing Saki, and might even be the person we actually fight for the badge? She's almost definitely a Steel type user, she's a Blakeroy, and she's indicated that our paths would cross soon. It's also possible that we will "cure" Saki of whatever Freya did to her, but the cure incapacitates her so that she is temporarily unable to battle. Furthermore, the inability for us to fight leaders the right way (or at all) is a key part of Amanda's and whoever created her's plan. Link to post Share on other sites
Node15 33 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Meanwhile Spacea and Tiempa are trying to aid you so I find it possible they pull a Souta and have you battle for a badge when the other leaders aren't available. My predictions are if they give us another leader it'll be Fairy or Dark. Dark being Daegan since Spacea and Tiempa have pulled the old show blood to convince you trick. And I dunno who they could install as a fairy leader. Link to post Share on other sites
Magus543 121 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 I dunno, Karrina's plan is pretty convoluted to get revenge on Karen. Like instead of just killing her when she's unconscious and getting it over with, she goes to the trouble of finding a spell to make her sane, hiring team Anti Assist, bypassing a cursed pyramid, and generally going through this confusing circus of contrived plotting. At the very least, Karrina can be talked down soooo.... Link to post Share on other sites
iiiiitamar 1 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 5 hours ago, Lord Van Cren said: Does anyone else think Hazuki will be key to rescuing Saki, and might even be the person we actually fight for the badge? She's almost definitely a Steel type user, she's a Blakeroy, and she's indicated that our paths would cross soon. This would make sense because we never really had the chance to talk to her. Link to post Share on other sites
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