Draconis Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 mood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisgameishard Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Devs, maybe let us do a lil bit of the testing to reduce the pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted November 20, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted November 20, 2021 someday !!! but not yet !! the evil power contained within is still too overwhelming-- too corrosive-- for the world yet to handle...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisgameishard Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, Amethyst said: someday !!! but not yet !! the evil power contained within is still too overwhelming-- too corrosive-- for the world yet to handle...................... Aight, then i guess we will leave u guys to bear the pain alone. Good luck soilder!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconis Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Yeah, Corrosive Field can be a bit tricky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bean 501 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 hours ago, TheRK9 said: Also, I think giving Drampa the STAB Judgement is just stronger, since a Fist Plate would sacrifice the 1.5x field boost for normal type moves. STAB Judgement with 1.5x for Judgement, 1.5x for Normal type boost and STAB hits an effective 405 base power. Even if resisted, that is 204 base power. The only coverage that is really necessary is for things that 4x resist it, and the only things that do so are Aggron/Bastiodon etc., hence Focus Blast. Also, Fist Plate is a bad idea since you have to forfeit the magical seed, which gives a free +1 Choice Specs boost and Magic Coat. Dragon Pulse is also fairly redundant since not a SINGLE Pokémon resists Normal+Fighting. And it doesn't hit a single Pokémon harder besides some rock types, for which we already have Focus Blast. imo a flame plate would be more effective than a fist plate since hyper voice would already hit dark types super effectively and energy ball could be used to deal with rock types. I also imagine that El would have a physical attacker like Snorlax, Bewear, or Bouffalant so he doesn't get completely walled by a physical tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRK9 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 52 minutes ago, Green Bean 501 said: imo a flame plate would be more effective than a fist plate since hyper voice would already hit dark types super effectively and energy ball could be used to deal with rock types. I also imagine that El would have a physical attacker like Snorlax, Bewear, or Bouffalant so he doesn't get completely walled by a physical tank He still shouldn’t have any plate whatsoever. Magical Seed gives him a free +1 Special Attack, and Normal type Judgement is 2.8125x stronger than any other Judgement Drampa could use. It doesn’t need to run any moves other than Nature Power and Focus Blast. There is not a single Pokémon in the game that resists both of those moves. There is no context in which an Energy Ball does more than a Judgement. Also, I don’t understand why people assume that the E4 will be mono typed. Are you really not expecting El to abuse Delphox on this field? Or Sigilyph? And quite frankly, no physical attackers really fit El’s aesthetic, nor do they benefit from the terrain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bean 501 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, TheRK9 said: He still shouldn’t have any plate whatsoever. Magical Seed gives him a free +1 Special Attack, and Normal type Judgement is 2.8125x stronger than any other Judgement Drampa could use. It doesn’t need to run any moves other than Nature Power and Focus Blast. There is not a single Pokémon in the game that resists both of those moves. There is no context in which an Energy Ball does more than a Judgement. Also, I don’t understand why people assume that the E4 will be mono typed. Are you really not expecting El to abuse Delphox on this field? Or Sigilyph? And quite frankly, no physical attackers really fit El’s aesthetic, nor do they benefit from the terrain. Eviolite Type Null could also work for physical ig. I'm not really expecting the E4 to stick to one type, but rather a strategy or theme. El fits as trick room, and i can see Laura as a potential sun user. Not quite sure what heather or anna could be, but i'm fairly certain they''ll use mountain and starlight arena respectively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RocketOSullivan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Honestly Delphox would be a great choice, but only if El doesn't use Trick Room, same for Serperior. And Trick Room for El would be way more effective than the Rado's one, plus I still have difficulty imagining a fight without Oranguru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRK9 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 16 hours ago, Green Bean 501 said: Eviolite Type Null could also work for physical ig. I'm not really expecting the E4 to stick to one type, but rather a strategy or theme. El fits as trick room, and i can see Laura as a potential sun user. Not quite sure what heather or anna could be, but i'm fairly certain they''ll use mountain and starlight arena respectively Type Null has the same issue as Porygon: Man made Pokémon don’t fit El. Holy Field specifically makes RKS System Dark Type to indicate that technology is evil. Laura will most likely use Rain, not Sun, since it would be to easy to ignite her field otherwise. Heather and Anna will just be offensive spam that abuses their fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bean 501 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, TheRK9 said: Laura will most likely use Rain, not Sun, since it would be to easy to ignite her field otherwise. I kinda figured she would use sun since we know she has a Lilligant, which can have Chlorophyl. It also activates Cherrim's flower gift and doubles the effect of growth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Green Bean 501 said: I kinda figured she would use sun since we know she has a Lilligant, which can have Chlorophyl. It also activates Cherrim's flower gift and doubles the effect of growth Flower gift is automatically activated on flower garden field, as is doubled growth (unclear whether doubled growth from field stacks with weather); chlorophyll and leaf guard are both activated in later stages. Given that, setting sun seems somewhat redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketOSullivan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I think Anna will be an Aurora Veil team, with probably a Jynx lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRK9 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Green Bean 501 said: I kinda figured she would use sun since we know she has a Lilligant, which can have Chlorophyl. It also activates Cherrim's flower gift and doubles the effect of growth Growth is already boosted on her field, Chlorophyll is already activated and Cherrim is probably too weak for an E4 member. Sun also boosts Fire types even further and enables you to set the field on fire. Rain prevents this, nerfs fire types in general and allows Venusaur and Roserade to fire off Water type Weather Balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisgameishard Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I think its v likely that Anna uses a victini as well as a milotic due to their ability’s receiving a boost in starlight. Btw rip to any of your mons that get hit with that doom desire, holy moley thats ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRK9 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, thisgameishard said: I think its v likely that Anna uses a victini as well as a milotic due to their ability’s receiving a boost in starlight. Btw rip to any of your mons that get hit with that doom desire, holy moley thats ridiculous! I think she will have a Victini as well, Victory Star is just too broken. I tried looking into Milotic but it just ended up too passive to properly fit her playstyle, even with Marvel Scale. The Doom Desire is definetely very good, but it is pretty nerfed by the fact that it's part Fire now, since Fire and Water types can take it fairly decently still, especially ones with Flash Fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans andracass Posted November 21, 2021 Veterans Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 9:10 PM, thisgameishard said: Ladder=Stairs????? (Or maybe Cass did lie) :| 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketOSullivan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 As a Water type rather than Milotic I am pretty sure Anna will use a Starmie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, TheRK9 said: Growth is already boosted on her field, Chlorophyll is already activated and Cherrim is probably too weak for an E4 member. Sun also boosts Fire types even further and enables you to set the field on fire. Rain prevents this, nerfs fire types in general and allows Venusaur and Roserade to fire off Water type Weather Balls. Cherrim's not strong on its own, but it's a pretty effective doubles support pokemon- with flower gift and helping hand, it can enable its partner to do quite a bit of damage. The AI tournament post also mentioned that probably-Laura had a very low win rate when not on flower garden field, so I suspect her team will have a lot of pokemon that seem underpowered in normal play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisgameishard Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, R.B said: Cherrim's not strong on its own, but it's a pretty effective doubles support pokemon- with flower gift and helping hand, it can enable its partner to do quite a bit of damage. The AI tournament post also mentioned that probably-Laura had a very low win rate when not on flower garden field, so I suspect her team will have a lot of pokemon that seem underpowered in normal play. Yea, also ik this has been mentioned but its v likely that Lura Bennant will be a fight together where we go 12v6 as Bennett gets massive support from this terrain and Lura is just better in doubles, as her supporting role is g8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRK9 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, R.B said: Cherrim's not strong on its own, but it's a pretty effective doubles support pokemon- with flower gift and helping hand, it can enable its partner to do quite a bit of damage. The AI tournament post also mentioned that probably-Laura had a very low win rate when not on flower garden field, so I suspect her team will have a lot of pokemon that seem underpowered in normal play. Cherrim is definitely good on her field, but it just doesn’t do anything that Lilligant, Venusaur and Roserade doesn’t do better. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had one, she would just be better off if she had other Pokémon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowry Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 23 hours ago, nguyengiangoc said: So imagined the sea is the bug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisgameishard Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, fellowry said: So imagined the sea is the bug? Maybe everything was bug?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bean 501 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 hours ago, thisgameishard said: I think its v likely that Anna uses a victini as well as a milotic due to their ability’s receiving a boost in starlight. Btw rip to any of your mons that get hit with that doom desire, holy moley thats ridiculous! New world field gets the same boosts to victory star so I'm willing to bet Victini will be reserved for Lin. 5 hours ago, RocketOSullivan said: As a Water type rather than Milotic I am pretty sure Anna will use a Starmie. I wouldn't be surprised to see Starmie since it gets a free Special Attack boost from illuminate and boosted coverage moves like dazzling gleam and aurora beam. Metagross also seems like a good choice for her mega since meteor mash and zen headbutt both get increased power from the field on top of the boost from tough claws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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