Spoiler Discussion

[Yahiro]

20 hours ago, Mei-o_Scarlett said:

Ok correct me if I'm wrong but I remember someone here said this game will be up to v16 which is fair enough

But also heard that Madame x identity and stuff won't be resolved until then?

So we gonna get another reborn situation where we don't deal with the endgame boss until actual end of the post game or something

Correct me if I'm wrong but it'll be pretty anti climatic tbh if reju goes the same route

 

I am pretty sure Jan debunked that in one of his Asks at Tumblr.

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

Well I can't access that anymore since tumblrs you know

Rip 

I'll just take your words for it and assume it's fake news then yea

 

Could use the way back machine but meh

 

 

[VMeemes]

On 12/1/2021 at 3:10 AM, Nocturne93 said:

It's probably related to the project with the drill. There's a large building on the east side of town where you can learn more about it. 

 

As confirmed on Jan's Tumblr account, the mining cave in Akuwa Town was planned to be postgame. As, and I quote, "Cerulean Cave type deal." So yeah we won't be getting it for a long while but we can speculate as to what it could be.

[MissMaya]

Hy, just started a new run and being on Chapter 4 now.

Before I go to Route 3, wanted I do all missing Sidequests.

I found Erin in the libary in East Gearen City.

I just want to know if I can encounter her again in the next time, or will I just see her later in the story again?

[SoulN7]

I'm pretty sure that's her unique encounter before main story and gives 1 rp for her.

[NeoBolt]

I don't know where I can say this but I will say it here; Rejuvenation is an amazing game..holy cow; I love this story! why did it take so long for me to think of playing it...love it very much, thanks for making this great game guys! I look forward to its completion one day; For now, gonna enjoy the rest of the game. =)

[WackyToast]

I wasn't too sure where to put this, but I'm going to assume that the spoiler tread is good enough of a fit. Ever since playing Rejuvenation I've been in love with it and I had in mind a couple of theories about the game that I've been sitting on for a while. Granted they might be incredibly flawed because I only played through the game once and without sidequests completed (but tbh I don't know how much info those give). It's also been a year since said playthrough so I might also remember details incorrectly.

 

Chapter 12's Bad Future shenanigans were supposed to be a scheme from Spacea and Tiempa to get rid of the player character and manipulate Melia into being more "obedient" to the Stormchaser's deal. 1st point towards this is the people that are sent to the Bad Future, being the player character, Melia and Madame X, with this last one being there to make sure that Melia survives. If I remember correctly, X mentioned being given a "spent" Time Diamond to explain why she even was there in the first place. What I think the plan was is to have the player character die along the way (which would have happened if not for Interceptor powers) and also have a Melia with a completely destroyed psyche, which would theoretically - very much theoretically - easier to keep under control.

One precedent of trying to take people close to Melia out of the picture would be in Chapter 9, where you were being sent back to the past to find the bomb and if you failed, your memories would have been wiped. The interesting thing is that apparently Karrina was also being sent to do the same, so the assumption could be that if that were to happen, they could have proceeded with the wipe without any suspicious circumstances being involved.

On a wider scale, I would say that Spacea and Tiempa do try to have complete control over all the Stormchasers, with them only showing up once in a while to be able to talk - while being the image of deities - and ending the lives of those that outlived their usefulness.

A detail to support this could be the diaries that apparently all members must keep, which would be an invaluable source of information to know exactly what they are thinking. 

 

None of this is very solid but I liked the sound of it enough to try and post it out to the public:)

 

[SoulN7]

On 6/19/2023 at 4:46 AM, WackyToast said:

I wasn't too sure where to put this, but I'm going to assume that the spoiler tread is good enough of a fit. Ever since playing Rejuvenation I've been in love with it and I had in mind a couple of theories about the game that I've been sitting on for a while. Granted they might be incredibly flawed because I only played through the game once and without sidequests completed (but tbh I don't know how much info those give). It's also been a year since said playthrough so I might also remember details incorrectly.

 

Chapter 12's Bad Future shenanigans were supposed to be a scheme from Spacea and Tiempa to get rid of the player character and manipulate Melia into being more "obedient" to the Stormchaser's deal. 1st point towards this is the people that are sent to the Bad Future, being the player character, Melia and Madame X, with this last one being there to make sure that Melia survives. If I remember correctly, X mentioned being given a "spent" Time Diamond to explain why she even was there in the first place. What I think the plan was is to have the player character die along the way (which would have happened if not for Interceptor powers) and also have a Melia with a completely destroyed psyche, which would theoretically - very much theoretically - easier to keep under control.

One precedent of trying to take people close to Melia out of the picture would be in Chapter 9, where you were being sent back to the past to find the bomb and if you failed, your memories would have been wiped. The interesting thing is that apparently Karrina was also being sent to do the same, so the assumption could be that if that were to happen, they could have proceeded with the wipe without any suspicious circumstances being involved.

On a wider scale, I would say that Spacea and Tiempa do try to have complete control over all the Stormchasers, with them only showing up once in a while to be able to talk - while being the image of deities - and ending the lives of those that outlived their usefulness.

A detail to support this could be the diaries that apparently all members must keep, which would be an invaluable source of information to know exactly what they are thinking. 

 

None of this is very solid but I liked the sound of it enough to try and post it out to the public:)

 

Right now, the player is the Melia's most dangerous ally, due to their unpredictable power (remember: the "MC" is locking half of player's power away with their aggreement and right now, they are still sleeping inside of "us"), we still don't know Spacea and Tiempa's goals and we don't know how much their presence will affect future chapters. If they are trying to "subdue" Melia due to her ""nature"", it will be really hard...

[PoketrainerZane]

Truth is there is one person that madam x could be and it is Crescent unless they add another character

[Yahiro]

On 6/25/2023 at 8:52 AM, PoketrainerZane said:

Truth is there is one person that madam x could be and it is Crescent unless they add another character

Doesn't v13's ending kinda debunk that theory? We see Madame X follow Ren, Melia and Venam in Pearl route but we know for a fact that Creasant was trapped until the end of Platinium route.

[Draconis]

There's also the possibility Madame X could be an entirely new character, though it's unlikely.

[HakuryuYukio]

One thing i'm especially interested in right now is how and when Xerneas will show up in the story for multiple reasons:

 

1. It's Yveltals counterpart

2. Correct if i'm wrong but wasn't there a scene in the story where they talked about how fairy types can't be turned into shadow pokemon? I don't remember which characters talked about it or if it was in some sort of note/diary since it's been so long.

3. The scene where Mega Audino(also a fairy type) was able to free Gloria (Hippowdon) from it's DR Form.

[Kaizuki]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vSddE5p0Xp6d5evzz81IIKmiVRRu90md1rMcKWCee9iGQlZRBTdQUxnguAGv8buLxj_FMaQIOYhTpRd/pub

 

^^ Basically a thesis on the plot of Rejuv.

[Cyphre]

First off gargantuan effort and all that, enormous amount of text, structuring and highlighting, massive props for that, but as i read more it just feels like a lot of it is based on random assumptions. I might not remember things as well since i didnt replay it since release of v13, but still.

This entire thing is full of assumptions and replacing pieces we don't currently have with what's convenient for the narrative, grabbing for words where there is incredibly clearly no need for it, such as with the maids and them being "created" (i think it's beyond obvious all they mean is that homunculi like them, created only to serve Indriad, have no reason to exist, this have nothing to do with world creation). 

 

Also any thesis have a purpose, i can't see any kind of conclusion of purpose of this. What this thesis wanted to say? What's the conclusion or main points or what did it try to say?

 

 

 

[SoulN7]

On 7/9/2023 at 3:09 PM, HakuryuYukio said:

One thing i'm especially interested in right now is how and when Xerneas will show up in the story for multiple reasons:

 

1. It's Yveltals counterpart

2. Correct if i'm wrong but wasn't there a scene in the story where they talked about how fairy types can't be turned into shadow pokemon? I don't remember which characters talked about it or if it was in some sort of note/diary since it's been so long.

3. The scene where Mega Audino(also a fairy type) was able to free Gloria (Hippowdon) from it's DR Form.

Welp, we first need to study all details them:

 

-Madame X's Yveltal has a Soul Stone, meaning it could have a soul inside, like we have Anathea on ours;

-An Yveltal cocoon can be found with Dive in the Sheridian Wetlands

-Melanie has Yveltal

-Both Madame X and Melanie had a "Father thing", plus the first one knows that it's dangerous to make physical contact with the second, for some reason.

 

My theory is that Yveltal could be:

-Indriad's old ace, so Madame X (maybe someone loyal to him?) and Melanie have him for this

-Indriad himself, a reincarnation or maybe a sort of "weak form" due to fighting Marianette (?), only in the present

-A sort of guardian who keeps Indriad locked in the Soul Stone, knowing his dangerous nature

 

 

About Xerneas...

 

-Storm-9 is a Xerneas, in the files...maybe a coincidence

-Appeared many times in statues like Blacksteeple, which was Nymiera's before Team Xen

-It was Rejuv's logo when opening the game

 

My guess is that Xerneas could be Nymiera's other ace (since I think she had Regigigas), herself too or Nym in her "purest form".

 

 

[Kaizuki]

On 8/15/2023 at 2:48 PM, Cyphre said:

First off gargantuan effort and all that, enormous amount of text, structuring and highlighting, massive props for that, but as i read more it just feels like a lot of it is based on random assumptions. I might not remember things as well since i didnt replay it since release of v13, but still.

This entire thing is full of assumptions and replacing pieces we don't currently have with what's convenient for the narrative, grabbing for words where there is incredibly clearly no need for it, such as with the maids and them being "created" (i think it's beyond obvious all they mean is that homunculi like them, created only to serve Indriad, have no reason to exist, this have nothing to do with world creation). 

 

Also any thesis have a purpose, i can't see any kind of conclusion of purpose of this. What this thesis wanted to say? What's the conclusion or main points or what did it try to say?

 

 

 

 

It's a literary methodology based on presumption of foreshadowing as a means of predicting the future. I would claim the largest assumption made is simply that Jan is an excellent storyteller, and that every breadcrumb he's left foreshadows and fits into a future plot.

 

If that holds, you can immediately make inferences like -- Rifts slot into the greater plot eventually. The Prophecies of Light and Dark are true. Erin's expressed doubts about the legitimacy of "the past" hold water. Yveltal is actually Melanie/MX-Xen's dad. That sort of thing.

 

Absent that, the entire analysis is bunk. Nothing more than a bunch of useless assumptions.

 

But, Jan's storytelling is exactly what inspired this. The crazy bastard put GOLD TEXT in his game, dammit. It was a magnet.

 

Re: the point. There is no point. Only a relentless obsession.

 

Well... Actually the point is to be able to say "I told you so" if all of this comes to pass. And I do think much of it will. Precisely, again, because Jan is an excellent storyteller, and there are only so many ways to fit all of the shards he's left us together into a whole.

Edited September 5 by Kaizuki