Theory Crafting Thread

[iiiiitamar 1]

19 hours ago, Between Life and Death said:

Wait, when is she wearing glasses?

She wore them in valor mountain when ever you see her there (when she breaks the wall and saves Sharon)

[Display name 58]

I have a feeling when we see saki she will remember blacksteeple and the hotel but nothing else

 

[Between Life and Death 27]

Another thing I'm wondering: is the interceptor literally just you? Not the protagonist, the actual player behind the screen. And then maybe when you're controlling a different character, the interceptor's briefly inhabiting someone else's mind. It would explain why you have flashbacks to the intro when you go into the Strange House: the interceptor was inhabiting Maria's mind when you played as her. And it also explains a bit of dialogue in Zone Zero, where Ren is shocked to find out you know something that only he and Aelita saw.

 

In that case, your role as the interceptor would have NOTHING to do with the protagonist's backstory. If anything, you being the interceptor explains why the protagonist has no memory of their backstory. And this also explains why Saki/Freya talks to you as the interceptor on twitter, when you're not playing the game.

[Crimson_Mc_Black 15]

Guys new theory

its the fucking malamar.

the true villans behind everything is the Malamar

[TheHellHamster 9]

13 hours ago, Between Life and Death said:

Another thing I'm wondering: is the interceptor literally just you? Not the protagonist, the actual player behind the screen. And then maybe when you're controlling a different character, the interceptor's briefly inhabiting someone else's mind. It would explain why you have flashbacks to the intro when you go into the Strange House: the interceptor was inhabiting Maria's mind when you played as her. And it also explains a bit of dialogue in Zone Zero, where Ren is shocked to find out you know something that only he and Aelita saw.

 

In that case, your role as the interceptor would have NOTHING to do with the protagonist's backstory. If anything, you being the interceptor explains why the protagonist has no memory of their backstory. And this also explains why Saki/Freya talks to you as the interceptor on twitter, when you're not playing the game.

This would also be supported by the puppet masters line of 'which mind will you inhabit next' (At least I think that was the line).  It would also explain the MC's lack of a personality when compared to the zone zero flashback with Axel and Aria.

 

If it is true the we, as the interceptor, are completely separate from the MC then I wonder if they are aware of our influence or if they are as ignorant as the rest of the characters we take control of.

 

Clearly the MC sees the cutscenes that we do so I wonder if we were to see a cutscene of somewhere else while we were controlling a different character whether they would also see it or if the MC is special in that regard, maybe like a 'main host' or something.

[Between Life and Death 27]

4 hours ago, TheHellHamster said:

This would also be supported by the puppet masters line of 'which mind will you inhabit next' (At least I think that was the line). 

That was the line.

[Tikkit 31]

On 7/26/2020 at 9:19 PM, Crimson_Mc_Black said:

Guys new theory

its the fucking malamar.

the true villans behind everything is the Malamar

We did it, we cracked the code boys.

[Between Life and Death 27]

Another thing: if the interceptor is the player, then they were also inhabiting Kenneth's mind during Where Love Lies. That would explain why Freya specifically manipulated Kenneth, and why she and Kieran are trying to do the same to MC. The interceptor is the only one who isn't bound by fate, so one who manipulates the interceptor has fate in their hands.

[TheHellHamster 9]

17 hours ago, Between Life and Death said:

Another thing: if the interceptor is the player, then they were also inhabiting Kenneth's mind during Where Love Lies. That would explain why Freya specifically manipulated Kenneth, and why she and Kieran are trying to do the same to MC. The interceptor is the only one who isn't bound by fate, so one who manipulates the interceptor has fate in their hands.

Also they only started messing with Tealia once they became playable, which means that the time duo have almost exclusively (except for the post-Valor incident) targeted people who are being intercepted^TM.

 

This then begs the question of how the time duo know who is being intercepted seeing as not even the target knows and it took Madame X, seemingly one of the most knowledgeable characters in the game, two resurrections to figure it out. My guess would be some sort of tracking device made by whoever built the Core.

Edited July 30 by TheHellHamster

[Display name 58]

There are 2 issues with us the player being the interceptor.

 

First if we were controlling the characters that means at some point we would need to control adrest or axel because they were also interceptors

 

The second issue with us being the interceptor is that when we the player inhabit the mind of another character there is a specific goal we are trying to reach in advance like trying to learn about the interceptor as melia or helping anastasia as ren. When we inhabit other minds we don't have as much control over there actions or how they behave like we do with the mc

[Izuko Gaen 1]

3 hours ago, Display name said:

There are 2 issues with us the player being the interceptor.

 

First if we were controlling the characters that means at some point we would need to control adrest or axel because they were also interceptors

 

The second issue with us being the interceptor is that when we the player inhabit the mind of another character there is a specific goal we are trying to reach in advance like trying to learn about the interceptor as melia or helping anastasia as ren. When we inhabit other minds we don't have as much control over there actions or how they behave like we do with the mc

I mean, Axel is one of the MCs. Fully agree with 2nd point though.

On 7/26/2020 at 11:56 PM, Between Life and Death said:

If anything, you being the interceptor explains why the protagonist has no memory of their backstory.

Might be misunderstanding what you mean, but would that imply that the characters we control during the game (Melia, Aelita, Ren, if you want to be crazy even Goomink and if we count WLL then Keta and Taelia) would have no memories of their backstory when we play as them? If I am interpreting your statement right, then it has to be consistent with those characters too, but then it ends up contradicting a few events in the game (from the top of my head I'd say when we battle Risa as Aelita). 

 

[Crimson_Mc_Black 15]

4 hours ago, TheHellHamster said:

Also they only started messing with Tealia once they became playable, which means that the time duo have almost exclusively (except for the post-Valor incident) targeted people who are being intercepted^TM.

 

This then begs the question of how the time duo know who is being intercepted seeing as not even the target knows and it took Madame X, seemingly one of the most knowledgeable characters in the game, two resurrections to figure it out. My guess would be some sort of tracking device made by whoever built the Core.

Edited 4 hours ago by TheHellHamster

That or their using her Beheeyem to sense who it is

[Display name 58]

I don't thibk beheeyem can shatter the 4th wall tho

[Between Life and Death 27]

10 hours ago, Izuko Gaen said:

I mean, Axel is one of the MCs. Fully agree with 2nd point though.

Might be misunderstanding what you mean, but would that imply that the characters we control during the game (Melia, Aelita, Ren, if you want to be crazy even Goomink and if we count WLL then Keta and Taelia) would have no memories of their backstory when we play as them? If I am interpreting your statement right, then it has to be consistent with those characters too, but then it ends up contradicting a few events in the game (from the top of my head I'd say when we battle Risa as Aelita). 

 

Eh, the player might be the interceptor's "main" host, but they can temporarily inhabit a close friend's mind without them forgetting everything.

[Kamuisaki 3]

I don't know if it's really important for the story but some characters have resemblance with certain pokemon. For Tiempa and Spacea we can see Dialga and Palkia. But there is other.

 

Spacea:Palkia, control space
Tiempa:Dialga, control time

Comet:Metamorph, can morph in every living beings
Cosmia:Mew,can morph in every living beings (can do it better)

Keiran:Meloetta, because of his voice

Freya: a fusion between Zoroark and Beheeyem

Puppet Master:Darkrai, live and is the master of Nightmare city

Protag/Interceptor: Jirachi or a fusion with Jiraichi and another pokemon

Aelita: Groudon/Regigigas can feel the Earth.

 

I did this with the pokedex description

 

Then there is the characters who I have no idea: Madame X, Crescent, Melia and others.

Some Garufan Magic can be a way for a human to have the power of pokemon and all these characters have history with Garufan Magic.

Sorry for my english.

[Crystalrage 74]

I don't think Aelita and the Protag are pokemons. Aelita has some special powers which are not actually like a pokemon's power. And I don't think any pokemon has the power to control fate. Also u forgot about the one called Griselda. Apparently she becomes giratina. So I think spacea and tiempa are also Palkia and dialga in disguise

[Display name 58]

The protag is a force from beyond human scope and since aelita is a reincarnatiom of vivian She has a connection to regirock. The protag is fate's hand so unless a pokemon can control fate I don't think he has a connection to any specific pokemon

[Itamar 0]

On 8/6/2020 at 8:35 PM, Display name said:

The protag is a force from beyond human scope and since aelita is a reincarnatiom of vivian She has a connection to regirock. The protag is fate's hand so unless a pokemon can control fate I don't think he has a connection to any specific pokemon

The protagonist could have arceus

[Display name 58]

Yeah but the archtype is linked to arceus

[Crystalrage 74]

And most of the ppl here think that archtype is related to melia and her siblings

[Display name 58]

In the Final cutscene of v12 Melia Erin Alice Allen turned into the archtype.

 

Possible that the interceptor existed from the begining alongside Vitus and Nymeria or

also possible that they were the prince who was with nymeria I think her son

Edited August 8 by Display name

[TheHellHamster 9]

2 hours ago, Display name said:

In the Final cutscene of v12 Melia Erin Alice Allen turned into the archtype.

 

Possible that the interceptor existed from the begining alongside Vitus and Nymeria or

also possible that they were the prince who was with nymeria I think her son

iirc the Interceptor is supposed to be from another world which is why they are separate from fate so it's unlikely for them to have been created by Arceus in the very beginning . Also since the Interceptor cannot be older than the Core, something built by people with access to the Archetype, I find it unlikely for there to have been an Interceptor during the Archetype War seeing as Nymeria kept it sealed the whole time until she used it at the end. Granted if the Core was built before then it does seem like the kind of thing there would be an Interceptor for.

[Display name 58]

11 hours ago, TheHellHamster said:

iirc the Interceptor is supposed to be from another world which is why they are separate from fate so it's unlikely for them to have been created by Arceus in the very beginning . Also since the Interceptor cannot be older than the Core, something built by people with access to the Archetype, I find it unlikely for there to have been an Interceptor during the Archetype War seeing as Nymeria kept it sealed the whole time until she used it at the end. Granted if the Core was built before then it does seem like the kind of thing there would be an Interceptor for.

where are you getting another world from.

[Crystalrage 74]

There's a book in ruins of route 6 that explains about the interceptor. 

[Display name 58]

I mean if arceus is supposed to be a god stand in then I think he could have created the interceptor.