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5 hours ago, lordkillroy6667 said:

thats it feels kinda low to me

Well, it is properly 2 a day. The reason we've got more so far is because of mistakes and/or lines with multiple updates (Glalie/Froslass and Huntail/Gorebyss). 

 

Thanks for the good work guys, I'm recovering from illness at the moment but will begin looking myself asap

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Todays update, Kingdra and Walrein going from evolve to Catch, Seems to be a lot of water/ice pokemon, but I guess with rockclimb giving ous that new zone in the ice mountain, it's understandable, but then there is also that one east of Calcenon that also seems to lead up to a icey mountain.

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Yup, just noticed / added those two as well. I'm just gonna go ahead and throw all my predictions for this week's mons in a spoiler -- after all, I'll be in the beta soon and will get the answers for myself, why not make a quick hurrah?

 

Once I have the answers for myself from Beta, I won't comment in this way again, but will continue to update the list in the OP.

 



GROUP 1: Well, group 1 is just mostly retcons due to mistakes, but for clarity, I'll point them out anyways.
Nidorina* (Event -> Wild), Nidorino* (Evolve -> Wild)  - Bysbyxion Tunnels
Clefairy* (Event -> Repeatable Event/Wild) - Glitch Mt. Moon

Machop* (Breed -> Wild) - Glitch Victory Road

Magneton* (Evolve -> Wild) - Yureyu Backroom

Seadra* (Evolve -> Wild) - Ametrine 2F Fishing, etc.

Hariyama* (Event -> Wild) - South Obsidia Ward (requires renovation?)

Seviper* (Event -> Wild) - Tanzan Depths (surf req.)

Simisear* (Evolve -> Wild), Simipour* (Evolve -> Wild) - Chrysolia Springs

Musharna* (Evolve -> Wild) - Once Upon a Somewhere

Leavanny* (Evolve -> Wild) - Neo Rhodocrine Jungle

Accelgor* (Evolve -> Wild) - Neo Azurine Island

Diggersby* (Evolve -> Wild) - Beryl Cave / Neo Beryl Ward

 

GROUP 2: Icy/Wet Bois: Well, a majority of what we've gotten so far are ice type or related to the lines that inhabit the Ametrine Mountain range. The simple answer is that we finally get access to the Dratini room, though as of E17, these lines are not in the data for that room. Maybe a different offshoot of Ametrine with higher level/stronger wild Pokemon accessible through Rock Climb?  Route 4 is also snowy, so it wouldn't be unfeasible our adventures up there to see what's in Agate (??) could be this answer. As for the aquatic guys, maybe a new dive spot? Not too hard to fit in tbh

Ninetales (Evolve -> Wild) - A. Vulpix is only in Ametrine City (not Mt.), so maybe this is in an outside area of some sort. Otherwise, could be fire Ninetales???

Cloyster (Evolve -> Wild) - Shellder is in the whole mountain range by fishing, so see below.

Kingdra (Evolve -> Wild) - Horsea/Seadra are fishing in Ametrine Mt. New fishing spot, maybe in a cold area, likely.

Walrein (Evolve -> Wild) - Spheal/Sealeo are Ametrine mt. New mountain area likely.

Glalie (Evolve -> Wild), Froslass (Evolve -> Wild) - Snorunt is in Ametrine mt. New mountain area likely.

Huntail (Evolve -> Wild), Gorebyss (Evolve -> Wild) - Clamperl is in dive spots. New dive spot... somewhere... likely.

Avalugg (Evolve -> Wild) - Bergmite is Ametrine city/mt. New mountain area likely.

 

GROUP 3: Oddballs: Well, everything that doesn't fit in the icy/wet bois category.

Wigglytuff (Evolve -> Wild) - Jigglypuff is just a seventh street buy so... No idea where this is going to be. Honestly normal types can kinda be smacked onto a random route.

Lickilicky (Evolve -> Wild) - Lickitung is also a seventh street guy... so same as above.

Trevenant (Evolve -> Wild) - Here's my soft confirmation there's a cool new area east of Route 4. Phantump exclusive to Route 4, so Trevenant would likely be nearby.

Bisharp (Evolve -> Wild) - Pawniard is exclusive to Route 4, so same as above. 

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1 minute ago, BIGJRA said:

Yup, just noticed / added those two as well. I'm just gonna go ahead and throw all my predictions for this week's mons in a spoiler -- after all, I'll be in the beta soon and will get the answers for myself, why not make a quick hurrah?

 

Once I have the answers for myself from Beta, I won't comment in this way again, but will continue to update the list in the OP.

 

 

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GROUP 1: Well, group 1 is just mostly retcons due to mistakes, but for clarity, I'll point them out anyways.
Nidorina* (Event -> Wild), Nidorino* (Evolve -> Wild)  - Bysbyxion Tunnels
Clefairy* (Event -> Repeatable Event/Wild) - Glitch Mt. Moon

Machop* (Breed -> Wild) - Glitch Victory Road

Magneton* (Evolve -> Wild) - Yureyu Backroom

Seadra* (Evolve -> Wild) - Ametrine 2F Fishing, etc.

Hariyama* (Event -> Wild) - South Obsidia Ward (requires renovation?)

Seviper* (Event -> Wild) - Tanzan Depths (surf req.)

Simisear* (Evolve -> Wild), Simipour* (Evolve -> Wild) - Chrysolia Springs

Musharna* (Evolve -> Wild) - Once Upon a Somewhere

Leavanny* (Evolve -> Wild) - Neo Rhodocrine Jungle

Accelgor* (Evolve -> Wild) - Neo Azurine Island

Diggersby* (Evolve -> Wild) - Beryl Cave / Neo Beryl Ward

 

GROUP 2: Icy/Wet Bois: Well, a majority of what we've gotten so far are ice type or related to the lines that inhabit the Ametrine Mountain range. The simple answer is that we finally get access to the Dratini room, though as of E17, these lines are not in the data for that room. Maybe a different offshoot of Ametrine with higher level/stronger wild Pokemon accessible through Rock Climb?  Route 4 is also snowy, so it wouldn't be unfeasible our adventures up there to see what's in Agate (??) could be this answer. As for the aquatic guys, maybe a new dive spot? Not too hard to fit in tbh

Ninetales (Evolve -> Wild) - A. Vulpix is only in Ametrine City (not Mt.), so maybe this is in an outside area of some sort. Otherwise, could be fire Ninetales???

Cloyster (Evolve -> Wild) - Shellder is in the whole mountain range by fishing, so see below.

Kingdra (Evolve -> Wild) - Horsea/Seadra are fishing in Ametrine Mt. New fishing spot, maybe in a cold area, likely.

Walrein (Evolve -> Wild) - Spheal/Sealeo are Ametrine mt. New mountain area likely.

Glalie (Evolve -> Wild), Froslass (Evolve -> Wild) - Snorunt is in Ametrine mt. New mountain area likely.

Huntail (Evolve -> Wild), Gorebyss (Evolve -> Wild) - Clamperl is in dive spots. New dive spot... somewhere... likely.

Avalugg (Evolve -> Wild) - Bergmite is Ametrine city/mt. New mountain area likely.

 

GROUP 3: Oddballs: Well, everything that doesn't fit in the icy/wet bois category.

Wigglytuff (Evolve -> Wild) - Jigglypuff is just a seventh street buy so... No idea where this is going to be. Honestly normal types can kinda be smacked onto a random route.

Lickilicky (Evolve -> Wild) - Lickitung is also a seventh street guy... so same as above.

Trevenant (Evolve -> Wild) - Here's my soft confirmation there's a cool new area east of Route 4. Phantump exclusive to Route 4, so Trevenant would likely be nearby.

Bisharp (Evolve -> Wild) - Pawniard is exclusive to Route 4, so same as above. 
 

 

 

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Yea I'm guessing the 'featured' rock climb mons like dratini, deino, larvitar, jangmo-o etc will probably be switching from unobtainable to event near the end of the changes. I think eastern route 4 could potentially be the way we go to deal with the agate issue.

 

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Yea I'm guessing the 'featured' rock climb mons like dratini, deino, larvitar, jangmo-o etc will probably be switching from unobtainable to event near the end of the changes. I think eastern route 4 could potentially be the way we go to deal with the agate issue.

 

Yep, exactly what I'm thinking. Last cycle we got the cooler/more surprising stuff towards the end as well (Phione, Garchomp, etc.)

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4 minutes ago, BIGJRA said:

Yep, exactly what I'm thinking. Last cycle we got the cooler/more surprising stuff towards the end as well (Phione, Garchomp, etc.)

The most interesting ones to watch will be scyther and the remaining limited event mystery egg / starter mons. I also can't remember if bagon was one of the ones we get with rock climb

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18 minutes ago, DreamblitzX said:

The most interesting ones to watch will be scyther and the remaining limited event mystery egg / starter mons. I also can't remember if bagon was one of the ones we get with rock climb

I want to see where Bagon ends up, too. Mega Salamence is really STRONK, after all.

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12 hours ago, DreamblitzX said:

The most interesting ones to watch will be scyther and the remaining limited event mystery egg / starter mons. I also can't remember if bagon was one of the ones we get with rock climb

the 3 we know that require rock climb are Axew (route 3), Jangmo-o (Teknite ridge), and Deino (Last dark material in luna's gym)

Larvitar is probably somewhere in the northern most desert where the sandstorm turns us around

Dratini might be in agate city since there are several dive spots  and waterfalls there

and there has to be one in Labradorra City since thats where the dragon gym is

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25 minutes ago, LeoYT said:

the 3 we know that require rock climb are Axew (route 3), Jangmo-o (Teknite ridge), and Deino (Last dark material in luna's gym)

Larvitar is probably somewhere in the northern most desert where the sandstorm turns us around

Dratini might be in agate city since there are several dive spots  and waterfalls there

and there has to be one in Labradorra City since thats where the dragon gym is

Larvitar and Dratini are both hidden behind Rock Climb as of E17 content

 

Larvitar is down the Rock Climb area in the Tanzan Cove surf entrance to Tanzan Depths, and Dratini is on the unreachable floor of Ametrine Mountain as a rare encounter from fishing.

 

 

I sort of doubt any of these will change, so the question marks for me are Scyther, Bagon, and the missing starter/mystery eggs.

 

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23 minutes ago, LeoYT said:

the 3 we know that require rock climb are Axew (route 3), Jangmo-o (Teknite ridge), and Deino (Last dark material in luna's gym)

Larvitar is probably somewhere in the northern most desert where the sandstorm turns us around

Dratini might be in agate city since there are several dive spots  and waterfalls there

and there has to be one in Labradorra City since thats where the dragon gym is

I believe dratini is in the lowest level of ametrine mountain and larvitar is in the cave you can surf to in tanzan cove

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Nice. I would guess we're on our last few days honestly, since we went from days of evolutions straight to new stuff, real quick. What's left to be seen is a few egg guys (Shroomish e.g.), starters, and Scyther. 

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Sad as is, not all of the remaining unobtainable (or random egg) pokemon, are going to be implemented in this episode... I am afraid that at least Scyther and Bagon, will be pushed back for the last episode (the next one). 

 

But i have no right to nag... At least, i am finally getting my Larvitar! And Jangmo-o, that i really wanted to try, ever since i saw his new US/UM Z-move! And Deino! Lots of work to do, with this new content expansion! I have so many things to play with! Hype levels reached maximum!!!

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6 minutes ago, GS BALL said:

Sad as is, not all of the remaining unobtainable (or random egg) pokemon, are going to be implemented in this episode... I am afraid that at least Scyther and Bagon, will be pushed back for the last episode (the next one). 

 

But i have no right to nag... At least, i am finally getting my Larvitar! And Jangmo-o, that i really wanted to try, ever since i saw his new US/UM Z-move! And Deino! Lots of work to do, with this new content expansion! I have so many things to play with! Hype levels reached maximum!!!

What makes you so sure that they’ll be episode 19 mons?

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39 minutes ago, Tacos said:

What makes you so sure that they’ll be episode 19 mons?

If we're facing Hardy on E18, that's a big lolnope to Scyther/Scizor. Though, I'm not sure about Bagon.

 

What the avaiability updates are telling me is that we're going after the twins in the upper part of Route 4, which means we're probably reaching the Glass Workstation and Agate, which is where Hardy's Gym is located.

#EDIT: Regarding TMs, we're finally getting that TM just outside of Pyrous Mountain. If I remember correctly, someone (that used RPGMaker at some point) said that it was Earthquake so EQ HYPE no more bullshit on doctor chompers yay!

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Who's saying we can't get Scyther after Hardy's gym? I doubt the episode is going to end at his gym battle (if it's even his gym we battle), and even if it did there could still be an event that's only available once he's defeated

 

Edit: Today's/Yesterday's changes are Dratini and Shroomish being catchable in the wild

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