Myrrh Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Magus543 said: if Team Xen could recreate Cipher's Shadow Pokemon, i don't see why Bladestar couldn't too. 1) Team Xen shows that it takes a lot of time and research to actually create Shadow Pokemon. Remember, they have a hard time mass producing them. 2) If it was so easy to recreate Shadow Pokemon from scratch, then Nastasia would not have needed to have gone to the Backup Lab with Ren to fetch the research and data related to Shadow Pokemon. 3) Rift Pokemon are a lot easier to create and she had already stolen the only thing needed to make them. 4) As I said in one of my previous posts, Flora likely had not found anything on Shadow Pokemon in the lab she had raided for the reasons I had previously stated. She also is an extremist who does crazy acts of terror to accomplish her goals. She's crazy, which is why the game tries to use her love of Pokemon as an attempt to humanize her. 15 minutes ago, Magus543 said: I actually love discussing lore, thanks for chatting. Likewise on this for me. Edited June 24, 2019 by Myrrh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Savior Morgan Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Myrrh said: 1) Team Xen shows that it takes a lot of time and research to actually create Shadow Pokemon. Remember, they have a hard time mass producing them. 2) If it was so easy to recreate Shadow Pokemon from scratch, then Nastasia would not have needed to have gone to the Backup Lab with Ren to fetch the research and data related to Shadow Pokemon. 3) Rift Pokemon are a lot easier to create and she had already stolen the only thing needed to make them. 4) As I said in one of my previous posts, Flora likely had not found anything on Shadow Pokemon in the lab she had raided for the reasons I had previously stated. She also is an extremist who does crazy acts of terror to accomplish her goals. She's crazy, which is why the game tries to use her love of Pokemon as an attempt to humanize her. Likewise on this for me. Man, who knew. This is new for me but it refreshed what i knew about Team Xen. Thanks @Myrrh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Okay let's continue, 25 minutes ago, Myrrh said: 1) Team Xen shows that it takes a lot of time and research to actually create Shadow Pokemon. Remember, they have a hard time mass producing them. 2) If it was so easy to recreate Shadow Pokemon from scratch, then Nastasia would not have needed to have gone to the Backup Lab with Ren to fetch the research and data related to Shadow Pokemon. 3) Rift Pokemon are a lot easier to create and she had already stolen the only thing needed to make them. 4) As I said in one of my previous posts, Flora likely had not found anything on Shadow Pokemon in the lab she had raided for the reasons I had previously stated. She also is an extremist who does crazy acts of terror to accomplish her goals. She's crazy, which is why the game tries to use her love of Pokemon as an attempt to humanize her. Likewise on this for me. Yeah it takes a lot of time to mass produce, but having like 2 or 3 shadow pokemon on Team Bladestar wouldn't be so costly, i mean let's remember Team Xen grunts themselves didn't have much Shadow Pokemon themselves. My point about Team Bladestar being able to replicate Shadow Pokemon isn't about the ease, it's about the available data, the Meowth Team Xen Grunt mentions that they were able to recreate the lost Shadow Pokemon of Cipher or something to that effect, so they must have acquired the data from an outside source, something Bladestar would want to do, hell their underground lair in GDC is based on the Under at least according to Dylan so they are clearly aware of the events in Orre so it's not a stretch to assume they are at least aware of Shadow Pokemon and the process, and could easily obtain information from former Cipher members like Lovrina. Jail? What's that? Either way, assuming Team Xen does return eventually, i can see Shadow Pokemon, of course Jan has a BURNING HATRED of Magikarp so we won't see any cooler hardcore mons like Shadow Gyrados or Shadow Hydreigon. More stuff like Shadow Dedenne or Shadow Bruxish. I will say this for Flora, she has a couple of Pet the Dog moments, like planting those color trees(relatively minor all things considered) helped save and supports Alexandra's tribe(more substantial) It's too bad, it's off camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrrh Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Maybe we'll see the return of the Shadow Froakie in the form of a Shadow Greninja? I'd like that as a callback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Myrrh said: Maybe we'll see the return of the Shadow Froakie in the form of a Shadow Greninja? I'd like that as a callback. When did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrrh Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Magus543 said: When did that happen? In earlier versions of Rejuvenation, Zetta had a Shadow Froakie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcBolt27 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Myrrh said: In earlier versions of Rejuvenation, Zetta had a Shadow Froakie. there were also a few other shadow pokemon we couldnt snag back around the goldenleaf invasion arc shortly after the 3rd badge that im not sure if we ever got a chance to snag them again (never went and tried) tho it mighta been changed in v11 i cant remember its been a while since i was at that point in the plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince&Sylveon Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 So while others are anxious about when V12 is going to come out. I have taken the liberty of making a custom wallpaper in preparation for this upcoming version. I might as well try to grind up Achievement Points (AP) so that I can get the Golden items to reduce the reliance of HMs. So this might be both a tease for what's to come as well as a comparison drawing of a bygone mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozano Kudusa Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I was wondering if anyone else noticed that Rhodea is the daughter of the mayor of Hiyoshi city. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, Mozano Kudusa said: I was wondering if anyone else noticed that Rhodea is the daughter of the mayor of Hiyoshi city. Time Travel is a doozy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inktalegaster Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 yay 70% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I want to see melia's dynamax snorlax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerulean Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Things are sure going fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 So anyone have any guesses to how our reunion with Nim is going to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhehvnukl Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Magus543 said: So anyone have any guesses to how our reunion with Nim is going to go? Depends on whats the fuck Crescent is hoping to achieve with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Well it seems her goal is to isolate us for whatever reason. What exactly this will achieve is another thing. That's why the whole mystery with Crescent is starting to wear it's welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kithas Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Well, she clearly want(ed?) the MC safe and away from the plot. I want to see her in relation to Melia, who more or less sees her as a good person (at least someone on the right by not playing by Stormschasers' rules) but doesn't know she's the one to blame for what happened to Venam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiko Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 My theory with Crescent is she's trying to prevent us from being involved with fixing this or getting hurt. It's possible that we were in her past which leads to her being taken in by Spaces and Tiempa. A desperate situation and all of that. But Crescent never let it go and turned rogue, as rogue as she ever could be. @kithas same here. I feel like she wants/needs mc and Melia to see her in a positive light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Well in Crescent's minuscule defense, she PROBABLY didn't intend for Lorna to petrify Venam, then again, Crescent did tamper with Lorna's memories sooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerulean Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I really want to see Nim again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Nim has that charm, and is strangely charismatic with how weird she is like in a Luna Lovegood way and not in a Vanille from Final Fantasy way. Also she gives us a spoon, how can you not love that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiko Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Magus543 said: Well in Crescent's minuscule defense, she PROBABLY didn't intend for Lorna to petrify Venam, then again, Crescent did tamper with Lorna's memories sooooo. Considering Lorna's specific memories are only our character went up to save her, it's likely she did intend for Venam and Melia to at least be hurt. I love Nim. Still pretty sure she's Nymeria though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, Aiko said: Considering Lorna's specific memories are only our character went up to save her, it's likely she did intend for Venam and Melia to at least be hurt. I love Nim. Still pretty sure she's Nymeria though. I think that's WAY to obvious, and i think Nim just named herself Nim after Nymeria, considering Alexandra's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerulean Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Aiko said: Considering Lorna's specific memories are only our character went up to save her, it's likely she did intend for Venam and Melia to at least be hurt. I love Nim. Still pretty sure she's Nymeria though. Yeah, Reincarnation highly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhehvnukl Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, kithas said: Well, she clearly want(ed?) the MC safe and away from the plot. I want to see her in relation to Melia, who more or less sees her as a good person (at least someone on the right by not playing by Stormschasers' rules) but doesn't know she's the one to blame for what happened to Venam. Yeah, but like, why turn people into stone to do so? What is she trying to do?... Wait. Isn't all of Lorna's victims (or attempted victims such as lavender) gym leaders? Is Crescent trying to halt our progression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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