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E17 Obtainable Pokemon List Changes [Potential Spoilers?]


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16 hours ago, Pozyher said:

Guys watch as the goose chase with corin ends up like "Here take your stupid caterpie, i just wanted it because i thought it was rare" and we get magikarp from a completely different sidequest.

Actually, in the first episodes, the quest was completed (I think) and you got magikarp, that was axed in later ones. I would think that the real turnover would be to discover that team meteor etc was only just a big sidequest while the MAGEEKARP QUEST WAS THE MAIN STORYLINE. Good job Ame, you fooled us

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7 minutes ago, Blontary said:

Actually, in the first episodes, the quest was completed (I think) and you got magikarp, that was axed in later ones. I would think that the real turnover would be to discover that team meteor etc was only just a big sidequest while the MAGEEKARP QUEST WAS THE MAIN STORYLINE. Good job Ame, you fooled us

Made my day :D

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16 hours ago, CMV said:

The Saturday double battle trainers in the Grand Hall give 150000 with a Luck Incense equipped. 7 Rare Candies per battle... Not too shabby. Ame has stated that this is going to be nerfed in E17 though, so abuse it while you still can.

 

16 hours ago, The Protagonist said:

Plus, you can also get a lot of money by selling all the relic gold and silver you find in the underwater cities.

Thank you for info as well.

 

On topic, I wonder why Ame got rid of Growlithe? Jalil1m I suggest you hurry and get one in game while you can, I would freely give you one through trading myself but I gave it back to the police officer already.

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... In the obtainable list Growlithe is marked as "Available in the Wild". And as Ame said it was already fully updated I'd trust this for now.

(Also, when I get a 'mon, first thing before having to give it back is to breed with it, isn't it?)

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Oh, I'm sorry then :/

Either way, the only evolution line being held up not being either legendary or pseudo-legendary is Scizor line (Even though I don't fully understand why but, well)

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2 minutes ago, kithas said:

Oh, I'm sorry then :/

Either way, the only evolution line being held up not being either legendary or pseudo-legendary is Scizor line (Even though I don't fully understand why but, well)

You don't have to apologize, its not like you could've of known. I just wanted to explain why I did such a stupid mistake.

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19 minutes ago, kithas said:

Oh, I'm sorry then :/

Either way, the only evolution line being held up not being either legendary or pseudo-legendary is Scizor line (Even though I don't fully understand why but, well)

Probably we will have Scizor after Hardy. Scizor against a rock team could be dangerous. I suppose we could say the same for Metagross or Bisharp, but Scizor has no other weaknesses than fire, and I can't see any fire in a rock gym...

Anyway, what I really wanted was a Scyther... :(

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5 hours ago, Zeros said:

Probably we will have Scizor after Hardy. Scizor against a rock team could be dangerous. I suppose we could say the same for Metagross or Bisharp, but Scizor has no other weaknesses than fire, and I can't see any fire in a rock gym...

Anyway, what I really wanted was a Scyther... :(

What if Hardy has a shell smash focus sash/white herb magcargo?

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Those are good points, but you cannot build an entire team around a weakness (well, you can, but you shouldn't). I was just searching for a possible explanation to why Scyther will not be in EP17. In my mind it sounds right.

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7 hours ago, kithas said:

Oh, I'm sorry then :/

Either way, the only evolution line being held up not being either legendary or pseudo-legendary is Scizor line (Even though I don't fully understand why but, well)

There's a VERY good reason for this. Scizor's typing is insanely good, leaving it with a plethora of resistances and only a single weakness. More over it's access to Swords Dance and it's patented signature Technician Bullet Punch on top of it's greatly usable bulk allow it to easily set up on entire leads that can't hurt it much and then Bullet Punch the remainder of the team into the next dimension.

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All we can do is hope that it'll be early mate. Seems like hunger makes food more tastier. orange barney pls.

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@PinkOmega

Unfortunately none of us on the dev team know when the episode is going to be out, although it shouldn't be too much longer (we're still in the beta test at the moment, but that's the last phase before the community release which is when you'll be able to access it). 

You might be able to get updates on the development blog, although admittedly the progress bar serves literally no purpose at this point. But try to be patient, you'll get it pretty soon! 

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@mde2001

Seems like you misunderstod Me quite drastically mde2001, if you look in the dev blog you can se that ames latest message under the green progress bars are "Hey guys, does anyone know when e17 is coming out?" Note the " i put in to clarify that it wasnt Me who stated it

 

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"Scizor is way too overrated. First thing, compared against fire mons (or electric ones with fire moves, or generic popular ones with the very common hidden power fire...), that thing's slow. Swords Dance, isn't Dragon Dance, doesn't raise speed or something... While setting up, you can safely switch in to sweep it. Its mega loses Technician, too. Technically, it's one of those "one trick ponies" in battles. Only reason why it is not available, is probably the remaining in-game battles."

 

 

- First and foremost, who tries to setup with a Scizor before dealing with possible checks, or at least scout the opponents team?

 

- Second, it's speed is irrelevant. Bullet punch after one - one - Swords dance will make damn sure that many pokémon neutral to it will be long gone before they even touch it, while fairy types and rock types lacking solid rock can't even think of switching in;

 

- A bread-and-butter Bullet Punch/Superpower/U-turn(or knock off)/Swords Dance set, is the nightmare of stuff like stall Clefable, those accursed Chanseys, Cresselia, Mamoswine, Tapu Lele (yes +2 U-turn kills this thing), Tapu Bulu, Azumarril, Mega Mawile, to name a few. The amount of Heatrans I have murdered on the switch is absurd. 

 

- Third, keep in mind that with it's bulk, Scizor can, and most often than not will, get atleast two Swords Dances on the bag, at which point there's no such a thing as a safe swich, because if it's counters are gone, it will likely murder the rest of the team, or if the opponent's timing in sending their counter out is off, said counters are dead.

 

-Fourth, it's mega still gets technician, but that's irrelevant. Mega Scizor is very inferior to the original Scizor. With a life orb, Scizor's damage output far outclasses it's mega's. Leftovers or even a shell bell, thanks to scizor's high damage output, are too good to be ignored, considering it also has access to Roost.

 

- Lastly, one trick pony? Scizor has the stats and coverage of an awesome attacker, the bulk and potential damage of a tank, and with access to moves like:  Defog, Tailwind, Knock off, Toxic, Protect, Roost and Counter, it can run a very reliable support set that will still deal damage, all you have to do is be creative.

 

Scizor is a monster, dude. Even if it is my favourite pokémon, Ame is damn right about not giving it to us before Hardy, and maybe even before Sapphira, because some dragons don't get flamethrower, and fery few dragons resist Steel. 

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As a clarification, mega sciz''s damage is weaker but it is ridiculously bulky allowing for more reliable set up. You realise that scizor would just set up on any non fire move using rock type and proceed to one shot everything else right?

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