Global Mods cicada Posted March 4, 2019 Global Mods Share Posted March 4, 2019 I am not the Cop, nor am I mafia. I don’t know for certain what role Ame is, but she can’t be the person who visited Amber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 atm i dont believe ame is maf. therefore, i'll vote to [Eliminate] Jace since they haven't been voted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 also cicada, i dont believe you are telling the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods cicada Posted March 4, 2019 Global Mods Share Posted March 4, 2019 I don’t really want to explicitly state my role, but I believe I’ve softclaimed with words, since there’s still a possibility of a Coyote being around. I just really hope that you can believe me just this once. You can lynch me tomorrow if I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano4 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) so what I've gathered from the posts are 1. I should get another gun tonight 2. I'm not very good at scum reading in forum settings 3. I'm gonna shoot someone I find suspicious anyway also remember that one member of the mafia is a fabricator, probably meaning they don't have a saboteur since that would be redundant and weird anyway give me my gun tonight and ill shoot a mafia a drug dealers promise is as good as a boy scouts Edited March 4, 2019 by Nano4 give me a gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods cicada Posted March 4, 2019 Global Mods Share Posted March 4, 2019 Someone listened to you before and you shot a random townie, Nano... Since you know about the possibility of a fabricator, why are you outwardly stating that you’d use the gun? That’s what the mafia want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans andracass Posted March 4, 2019 Veterans Share Posted March 4, 2019 I'm pretty sure there isn't a coyote in this setup since nano didn't lose his vest. Purp, are you the cop or the doctor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaris Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, andracass said: I'm pretty sure there isn't a coyote in this setup since nano didn't lose his vest. Purp, are you the cop or the doctor? Why are you pressing her so much? You're basically telling mafia to kill her. Nicki can be 4 roles rn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans andracass Posted March 4, 2019 Veterans Share Posted March 4, 2019 If we leave Ame alive, it's practically guaranteed that they'll kill her tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaris Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 But why should we leave ame alive? Niki has already made it clear that ame's lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nano4 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, cicada said: Someone listened to you before and you shot a random townie, Nano... Since you know about the possibility of a fabricator, why are you outwardly stating that you’d use the gun? That’s what the mafia want. I have a vest, of course I'd use the gun, I won't die from a malfunction also pretty sure I can shoot a mafia this time, I went 2 for 2 in princess mafia, why not 1 for 1 now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans andracass Posted March 4, 2019 Veterans Share Posted March 4, 2019 I'm still reasonably sure that ame's not lying and that something's weird about purp's softclaim, though this is such a mess that I'm not completely sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods cicada Posted March 4, 2019 Global Mods Share Posted March 4, 2019 That’s probably what they want, Nano. If there is a Coyote, they’re probably waiting for that vest to disappear. I just don’t want you to be targetted. I don’t want to explicitly state my role just yet. Ame has all the reason to lie, especially if she has an experienced mafia team backing her up. She might have been tailored (because I think they can tailor roles that are already dead, too), which would make me look bad if she flips town. If that scenario happens, and I survive the next day (possibly resulting in a free lynch for mafia), I’ll hardclaim then. I don’t see reason to hardclaim right now, but I’ve already stated that Ame can’t be telling the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaris Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, cicada said: Ame has all the reason to lie, especially if she has an experienced mafia team backing her up. She might have been tailored (because I think they can tailor roles that are already dead, too), which would make me look bad if she flips town. If that scenario happens, and I survive the next day (possibly resulting in a free lynch for mafia), I’ll hardclaim then. I don’t see reason to hardclaim right now, but I’ve already stated that Ame can’t be telling the truth. If this happens, it'll mean that we're facing an astoundingly highly coordinated mafia team. And this can really tell us who we should lynch next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 If a player were to get multiple Guns, they would have "Gun A" "Gun B" and so on, ordered randomly. The player would say "I use Gun A" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 probably ominous, but can a player choose to shoot their self? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 You... could. Real or Fake, it would always kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans andracass Posted March 4, 2019 Veterans Share Posted March 4, 2019 So in an attempt to clarify my position, this is the chain of events that I'm pushing: N0: Mafia kills L'Belle. Vigilante kills no one. Alistair copies Ame. D1: Alistair is lynched and dies displaying Ame's role (vigilante). N1: Ame targets and kills Amber who then explodes; mafia targets ame; doctor protects ame and both kills fail. No other visits succeed on Amber. This is the only way that Amber can be the bomb and be killed without having anyone die (though it can be generalized so that the doctor only has to protect the person targeting the bomb, whether mafia or vigilante- Ame being the vigilante is still largely an assumption on my part). This would be the other chain of events: N0: Mafia kill fails. Vigilante kills L'Belle. D1: Alistair is lynched. N1: Amber is killed by the mafia. Nicki visits Amber. Neither visitor dies. (and, presumably) D2: Ame is lynched and shows up as a tailored role. The issue I see with this is that two people would have to have false roles- both Amber and Ame. Amber would have to be the actress and Ame would have to be tailored here, but if this is the case then a mafia member would have to have died last night. Thus either the mafia killed one of their own last night or this situation doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted March 4, 2019 Administrators Share Posted March 4, 2019 u-um.. just to clarify, this whole time i thought the tailor role was a role that could be used each night.. is it a one time use role?? i wouldn't have known, since this is the first time i've played with this kind of role... i'm sorry if this is a stupid or obvious question.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans andracass Posted March 4, 2019 Veterans Share Posted March 4, 2019 ........fuck that's a good point. Does the tailored suit last the whole game? If it doesn't, then the second chain of events I've described still wouldn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 Suits are infinite and last forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans andracass Posted March 4, 2019 Veterans Share Posted March 4, 2019 But is it a single use role or a repeat use role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaro Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 Repeatable. Infinite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans andracass Posted March 4, 2019 Veterans Share Posted March 4, 2019 ....yikes okay that's going to make this incredibly messy. I guess then it's still possible for the second line of events to happen, but tailoring someone to be the bomb seems a little weird to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaris Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, andracass said: So in an attempt to clarify my position, this is the chain of events that I'm pushing: N0: Mafia kills L'Belle. Vigilante kills no one. Alistair copies Ame. D1: Alistair is lynched and dies displaying Ame's role (vigilante). N1: Ame targets and kills Amber who then explodes; mafia targets ame; doctor protects ame and both kills fail. No other visits succeed on Amber. This is the only way that Amber can be the bomb and be killed without having anyone die (though it can be generalized so that the doctor only has to protect the person targeting the bomb, whether mafia or vigilante- Ame being the vigilante is still largely an assumption on my part). This would be the other chain of events: N0: Mafia kill fails. Vigilante kills L'Belle. D1: Alistair is lynched. N1: Amber is killed by the mafia. Nicki visits Amber. Neither visitor dies. (and, presumably) D2: Ame is lynched and shows up as a tailored role. The issue I see with this is that two people would have to have false roles- both Amber and Ame. Amber would have to be the actress and Ame would have to be tailored here, but if this is the case then a mafia member would have to have died last night. Thus either the mafia killed one of their own last night or this situation doesn't make sense. Therefore: Situation 1 implies Nicki is lying. Situation 2 implies Alistair randomkilled in N0 and maf failed. I fins it hard to believe... Just now, Bazaro said: Repeatable. Infinite. This is absurd. They could tailor each and every one of us. We would never know whether we've killed a maf or not, or whether townies were telling the truth or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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