Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 They actually don't anymore it's in the ruuuules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokubiraijuu Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 oh, about that! i've never done a fire emblem rpg like this before, so i'm unfamiliar with the mechanics of the play style; how do promotion class skills work? do they get learned at level 5 / 15 like in fe13 and 14 or does it work differently? and i'm guessing by kain's comment that the dismounting mechanic is in play, so are dismount penalties a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalkerkain Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) They actually don't anymore it's in the ruuuules. b-baka! quote it for me or it didn't happen! (I actually don't see it, did i miss it somehere?) Otherwise rip Edit: oh, about that! i've never done a fire emblem rpg like this before, so i'm unfamiliar with the mechanics of the play style; how do promotion class skills work? do they get learned at level 5 / 15 like in fe13 and 14 or does it work differently? and i'm guessing by kain's comment that the dismounting mechanic is in play, so are dismount penalties a thing? Try not to think of FEF like the mainstream games. No skills will be learnt upon reaching the common milestones like 1, 10, 5, 15. (E.g. At no point will you ever be able to learn Astra in FEF, whereas Swordmasters learn it at level 5 in the main series). Unless there are all these changes that I'm missing that aren't on the front page. Then welp. Edited October 29, 2016 by Stalkerkain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krim Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) oh, about that! i've never done a fire emblem rpg like this before, so i'm unfamiliar with the mechanics of the play style; how do promotion class skills work? do they get learned at level 5 / 15 like in fe13 and 14 or does it work differently? and i'm guessing by kain's comment that the dismounting mechanic is in play, so are dismount penalties a thing? You get them on promotion in addition to the skills you already had. If you had the same skill in T1 you'd get from promoting, you can pick a different one (for the same Cost. Meaning Free or Cost) instead. That should be in the handbook I think. There are move/aid penalties for dismounting. b-baka! quote it for me or it didn't happen! (I actually don't see it, did i miss it somehere?) Otherwise rip Edit: Try not to think of FEF like the mainstream games. No skills will be learnt upon reaching the common milestones like 1, 10, 5, 15. (E.g. At no point will you ever be able to learn Astra in FEF, whereas Swordmasters learn it at level 5 in the main series). Unless there are all these changes that I'm missing that aren't on the front page. Then welp. The Nullify removal rule wasn't in the handbook and I didn't apply it myself, so it's still given to paladins. Edited October 29, 2016 by DragonMasterKrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokubiraijuu Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 You get them on promotion in addition to the skills you already had. If you had the same skill in T1 you'd get from promoting, you can pick a different one (for the same Cost. Meaning Free or Cost) instead. That should be in the handbook I think. There are move/aid penalties for dismounting. The Nullify rule wasn't in the handbook and I didn't apply it myself, so it's still given to paladins. okay, so you would get both promotion class skills automatically upon promoting? so hypothetically idei would get both amaterasu and ruler of the skies upon promoting to pegasus hunter, rather than waiting to reach a certain level? and okay, move/aid penalties for dismount, but no attack/def/etc. penalties like in fe5, okay. sorry for all the questions; i've never done this before so i want to make sure i have all my bases covered haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalkerkain Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) You get them on promotion in addition to the skills you already had. If you had the same skill in T1 you'd get from promoting, you can pick a different one (for the same Cost. Meaning Free or Cost) instead. That should be in the handbook I think. There are move/aid penalties for dismounting. Oh misread the question then. The Nullify removal rule wasn't in the handbook and I didn't apply it myself, so it's still given to paladins. Woo! Free Nullify upon promotion! okay, so you would get both promotion class skills automatically upon promoting? so hypothetically idei would get both amaterasu and ruler of the skies upon promoting to pegasus hunter, rather than waiting to reach a certain level? and okay, move/aid penalties for dismount, but no attack/def/etc. penalties like in fe5, okay. sorry for all the questions; i've never done this before so i want to make sure i have all my bases covered haha Yes. Also ask questions. Ask all the questions. As many questions as you need to! Edited October 29, 2016 by Stalkerkain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krim Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 okay, so you would get both promotion class skills automatically upon promoting? so hypothetically idei would get both amaterasu and ruler of the skies upon promoting to pegasus hunter, rather than waiting to reach a certain level? and okay, move/aid penalties for dismount, but no attack/def/etc. penalties like in fe5, okay. sorry for all the questions; i've never done this before so i want to make sure i have all my bases covered haha Yeah, you get both on promotion. The majority of T2 classes will get two skills. No attack/defense penalties. Mounts already got nerfed on-mount to have less move so I'm not going to be that cruel. (Despite me adding other things from Thracia not in the original rules lol). I am considering however nerfing them down movewise on indoor maps, or effectively force dismounting indoors as thats a feature I really like. And we have a ton of mounted units being submitted so I might have to just to make them more of a challenge either way. More on that when we actually get close to an indoor map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokubiraijuu Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Yeah, you get both on promotion. The majority of T2 classes will get two skills. No attack/defense penalties. Mounts already got nerfed on-mount to have less move so I'm not going to be that cruel. (Despite me adding other things from Thracia not in the original rules lol). I am considering however nerfing them down movewise on indoor maps, or effectively force dismounting indoors as thats a feature I really like. And we have a ton of mounted units being submitted so I might have to just to make them more of a challenge either way. More on that when we actually get close to an indoor map. force dismounting for indoors is a mechanic i like too! looks at idei's personal flaw but maybe him not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 surprised we don't have a Knight yet tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Well I'm going to be playing a General at some pont in the other one so I didn't exactly want to play one again. ((since Great Knights is basically jsut a General on a Horse LOL.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 and wyvern lords are just generals on wyverns hence wyvern lord is best class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfroger6 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 I just wanted to be a burly axe user. Without armor so that the muscle can show. Is that so wrong ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurorix Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Who needs to tank damage when you can just dodge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Who needs to tank damage when you can just dodge? I know right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 who needs to dodge when enemy attacks just bounce off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 You say that, then a Berserker hits you for 37 damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 good thing i had 60 health and can kill him next turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustytengo Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 You say that, then a Berserker hits you for 37 damage. to be fair anyone would be worrying about taking that much damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 That was more at the dodge people who won't have very much defense so if they do get hit they flat out die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokubiraijuu Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 who needs to dodge when enemy attacks just bounce off? you say that, and then the enemy crits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnocentSerenity Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Who needs to dodge or take hits when you kill everything in one hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 you say that, and then the enemy crits You know 3 x 0 is still 0 right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokubiraijuu Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 You know 3 x 0 is still 0 right? squints fine you say that, and then a mage comes after your general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 and does meh damage into your total health pool and then gets mollywopped next turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokubiraijuu Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) or it dodges and then doubles you bc generals are slow as balls x'D ( i don't actually intend to get into a superiority argument here; hope it's clear i'm just joking ) Edited October 29, 2016 by rokubiraijuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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