Praise The Sun... and Moon - Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon

[Jericho 114]

Perfect Zygarde will have a role in these games somehow. Count on it. 1. They wouldn't release it for nothing, and 2, you can see the sun and moon colors on it's 'mouth' thing.

As for this games legendaries, I really do believe there will be something to do with Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. With the 3rd legendary being from Susanoo. My next question is, will Izanagi and Izanami play a role?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaterasu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukuyomi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo

The one based off of Amaterasu in Sun Version will at least be part Fire or Fairy Type.

The one based off of Tsukuyomi in Moon Version will be at least part Dark or Rock Type.

The one based off of Susanoo will be at least part Water Type.

[NeoDarklight 0]

Hmm... I'm starting to see a pattern here. I think from now on, we're only going to get 2 version games, for the reason that a later third version simply isn't going to add anything.

Try as I might, I can't get this line out of my head.

"And, in 2016, it all comes together..." Something about that line screams importance to me, but I can't quite place it

Maybe it's referring to the anime? I mean, I'm thinking it's about time for Ash/Satoshi to actually step up to the big leagues. Possibly with a Tournament of Champions, with him representing the Orange Islands, and getting interested in the new region by battling with its Champion.

[Red_Chaos 9]

hawaii

think about it

it fits

[hanabluebird 0]

I'm a confused with the entire lack of 6.5 gen, but perhaps it will be released in a few short months, and Sun and Moon end of the year, who knows. All that I am certain of is that I want to finally get a ghost type eeveelution. I'm going to keep the rest of my hopes about everything else of this new game low just in case, including my hope for trainer customization, but I will dream for the ghost type eevee.

[Chase 94]

Hmm. Naturally, I think both Bird Keeper Toby -AND- Gaijin Goombah are onto something here.

• The Strange Souvenir has to fit into this generation -OR- an even later one. If Game Freak wanted the easter egg to remain relevant, it would most likely be the next generation of Pokemon (or Gen 7) that it would refer too. Point Toby.
• Sun and Moon are perhaps the two most "drastically different" title names for the series. Colors and Minerals have dominated the franchise up until this point. Not necessarily a point for GG, but it's one that relates vastly better to Shinto more than it does Hawaii'an mythos.
• Bird Keeper Toby's informant brought a lot of information to the table. 'Project Rainbow' is a very essential piece here - as is the emphasis on open vehicles and tropical climates. Not only is Hawaii the 'Rainbow State' - the University of Hawaii's mascot is referred to as the 'Rainbow Warrior' - so point Toby.
• Yokai Watch is destroying Pokemon at home in Japan, so it makes a lot of marketing sense for Japan to dig back into it's roots. Point Goombah.

I -do- think that it's possible to correlate Japanese folklore onto a Hawaii'an backdrop - in fact - I think that's probably a very strong play. Pokemon doesn't necessarily -have- to appeal as the best monster collection game in Japan due to it's world-wide acclaim, but it's been a little while since things have seemed a little native to their home audience. Incorporating both global outreach -and- a return to the homeland at once seems like appeals 'at home -and- abroad.'

That's just smart marketing.

[Masquerain 6]

That video does indeed sound plausible, but I kinda really hope we don't get another hoenn-like region..I mean..we've just had Hoenn. We need a change of "theme" imo, but well, Hawaiian-based region doesn't sound bad anyway.. To me it doesn't really matter where it's based as long as it's a double region game that makes us go back to Kalos for some zygarde/volcanion side plot

Also, if pokemon game titles are all based on colors and minerals..what are X and Y? They're letters... so , pokemon is deviating from their patterns slowly. Also, given that Kalos and ORAS are the beginning of this new timeline, it makes sense that the "color and mineral" names will be replaced by other things

[bepe 9]

Hawaii would be a cool setting. I'd love to see all the scenery in 3d, I'm sure it'll be very visually pleasing.

[NickCrash 250]

He's trying so hard to prove his point, he himself realizes that his arguments are quite shaky.

[Tomas Elliot 1]

Guys you do realize that, at this stage, any idiot could waltz in, post some random theories, make a long-winded argument to support them (based on nothing but personal opinions), and it would sound plausible, right? Truth is, we know nothing. This kind of speculation has the same relevance a cheerleader has in determining the outcome of a football match: all we can do is wait for more official info.

[Masquerain 6]

Some people find it fun to simply speculate and theorize you know..that's part of the waiting..but to each their own ;x

[Cepheus 7]

You know guys... the last two days I was thinking about one sentence said in the Reveal announcement:

"2016 - it all comes together in an all new Pokemon adventure" -> "IT ALL COMES TOGETHER"

Now before you go: "You are thinking all regions will be available - here are 10 resons why this is unlikely" - NO, that's not what I'm thinking about! (Hardware limitations etc.)

- I'm thinking of something else - in combination with that Concept art of that Building (Hotel, Water Gym, whatever) we got.

- It shows a Trainer that looks very similar to RED - as pointed out many times!

- it is the year of the 20th anniversary of Pokemon - 20 years since RED was first playable...

WHAT IF (BIG SPECULATION - just couldn't get it out of my head):

"It all comes BACK together?"

What if - 20 years have actually passed in the Pokemon world?

Red would be 30 years by now!

We could be playing as Reds son/daughter! - and that he gave us his old adventuring clothes!

-- that's who we see in that Picture - Reds son in his old clothes!

(maybe he married Yellow - and maybe when we play as a Girl, we will have an attire similar to hers? since she never actually appeared in any game - and she is soooo cute :3)

Now disregarding any speculations on the actual location, Hawaii or Singapore or whatever , doesn't matter.

Fact is: it seems to be a tropical climate - like a holiday-resort!

maybe Red and Yellow, as a married couple, and their two twin children (both boy and girl player - the other will be one of your rivals) are actually taking a VACATION!

That Building we see is the Hotel they are staying in! (that's why that Lady has a suitcase - she is about to check in, or just checked out!)

And while the family is taking a vacation, We as the player get "bored" and set out on a Pokemon journey in this Region!

Or maybe Red got an invitation for the Pokemon League there but, gives the opportunity to his Kids, because he is now 30 and is tired of adventuring around, and he stays at the Hotel for consultantship etc.

and that would make the Hotel our "Home Town" instead of an actual town... consisting of only 4 houses^^

Oh and of course Red would be the ultimate Trainer challange post-game "Show me what you have learned, my son/daughter!" -> 'Legendary Trainer Red wants to battle!'

Again - this is all my imagination and speculation - do not take it as fact (but it would be cool if it were)

[Genesis 0]

Guys you do realize that, at this stage, any idiot could waltz in, post some random theories, make a long-winded argument to support them (based on nothing but personal opinions), and it would sound plausible, right? Truth is, we know nothing. This kind of speculation has the same relevance a cheerleader has in determining the outcome of a football match: all we can do is wait for more official info.

all aboard the HYPE train!! no but seriously below

Some people find it fun to simply speculate and theorize you know..that's part of the waiting..but to each their own ;x

exactly what he/she said. That's where a lot of the fun comes from. Hyping things up. It may turn out to be overhyped, but hey where's the fun in not guessing and simply waiting

[Phi-Bi 48]

So, Pokemon Sun and Moon...Cosmic-type anyone?

[Ice Cream Sand Witch 1650]

If the return to Kalos theory ends up true, I wonder who the Champion will be since the player defeats Diantha in XY. Maybe it'd be Calem if you play as female or Serena if you play as male . o .

[Tomas Elliot 1]

all aboard the HYPE train!! no but seriously below

exactly what he/she said. That's where a lot of the fun comes from. Hyping things up. It may turn out to be overhyped, but hey where's the fun in not guessing and simply waiting

Don't get me wrong, I like speculation as much as the next guy. What I don't like is BASELESS speculation: what has Nintendo revealed about the upcoming games? A whole bunch of nothing, that's what. When we get announcements with new Pokemon, gym leaders, and/or locations, I will be the first to speculate about those. But to speculate over nothing, I find it to be absurd.

[Cobalt996 10]

[a long list of stuff]

Again - this is all my imagination and speculation - do not take it as fact (but it would be cool if it were)

Just going to point out that if we saw ORAS Resort area exclusively, without any indication of it being a remake of RS, there'd prolly have been speculation similar to that. One town doesn't say a whole lot, since if you only saw a city with a similar design to Snowpoint City, you could either draw the conclusion of Gen 4 remake, or a tundra-based region (or just be logical and discard both options, accepting it as a possible city in the finalized game features)

[iCerulean 5]

Either 'leaked' or official, outside of that, it's not really worth the effort to speculate or make a video about. It's the same thing that has been done for highly-anticipated games in the past as far as theory-crafting goes. For Sun/Moon, most people now are making speculations based off of some of the Concept Art they've seen in the video, which besides the game title, opens up a ton of questions. Even if none of that Concept Art was in the video, people would still talk about why Sun and Moon is being released and not Z (even though Z was never announced as a future title anyway).

[Spineblade 20]

The prospect of new games coming at the end of this year is exciting and all (especially for me since I haven't had a blind playthrough of a new region and dex for coming on ten years), but I feel like I should lay off the hype for a bit so it hasn't already burned out by the summer. I'm sure I'll engage in a little speculation and discussion over the months to come though.

I found out Masuda posted a Vine of him composing Sun and Moon music, here it is: https://vine.co/v/i6Yzw9x3DOW

Spooky.

[Masquerain 6]

The lack of info is also what opens up the games for a lot of potential, which gives rise to most of those speculation videos.. Personally, I find it exciting and fun to see what people come up with... Especially since you never know which one of them may eventually end up as truth.

In my view, a pokemon Z would be at this point obsolete on its own, since the anime and movie would already tell us the "plot" with Zygarde and it's usually the other way around..we see it in the games first and then we see it get integrated in the anime. It is probably bad marketing for them to release Z right now..thus why I'd hope we get a Kalos return as a secondary region postgame like Johto and Kanto.

P.S. that's some eerie stuff right there... Makes me think of a place akin to lavender town

[The Swordsman 98]

You know guys... the last two days I was thinking about one sentence said in the Reveal announcement:

"2016 - it all comes together in an all new Pokemon adventure" -> "IT ALL COMES TOGETHER"

Now before you go: "You are thinking all regions will be available - here are 10 resons why this is unlikely" - NO, that's not what I'm thinking about! (Hardware limitations etc.)

- I'm thinking of something else - in combination with that Concept art of that Building (Hotel, Water Gym, whatever) we got.

- It shows a Trainer that looks very similar to RED - as pointed out many times!

- it is the year of the 20th anniversary of Pokemon - 20 years since RED was first playable...

WHAT IF (BIG SPECULATION - just couldn't get it out of my head):

"It all comes BACK together?"

What if - 20 years have actually passed in the Pokemon world?

Red would be 30 years by now!

We could be playing as Reds son/daughter! - and that he gave us his old adventuring clothes!

-- that's who we see in that Picture - Reds son in his old clothes!

(maybe he married Yellow - and maybe when we play as a Girl, we will have an attire similar to hers? since she never actually appeared in any game - and she is soooo cute :3)

Now disregarding any speculations on the actual location, Hawaii or Singapore or whatever , doesn't matter.

Fact is: it seems to be a tropical climate - like a holiday-resort!

maybe Red and Yellow, as a married couple, and their two twin children (both boy and girl player - the other will be one of your rivals) are actually taking a VACATION!

That Building we see is the Hotel they are staying in! (that's why that Lady has a suitcase - she is about to check in, or just checked out!)

And while the family is taking a vacation, We as the player get "bored" and set out on a Pokemon journey in this Region!

Or maybe Red got an invitation for the Pokemon League there but, gives the opportunity to his Kids, because he is now 30 and is tired of adventuring around, and he stays at the Hotel for consultantship etc.

and that would make the Hotel our "Home Town" instead of an actual town... consisting of only 4 houses^^

Oh and of course Red would be the ultimate Trainer challange post-game "Show me what you have learned, my son/daughter!" -> 'Legendary Trainer Red wants to battle!'

Again - this is all my imagination and speculation - do not take it as fact (but it would be cool if it were)

While I would love to fight Red again I doubt this will happen as the Pokemon world so far hasn't made such huge time skip before. Also while the manga is more faithful to the games than the anime they are not canon to the games, so Yellow doesn't exist in the game verse. Red and Misty on the other hand...

[Alilatias 53]

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that I hope the game is based on Central and South America, particularly taking inspiration from the Mayans and the Incans.

[NeoDarklight 0]

Hmm... Normally, I'd wait for the starters to be announced before jumping onto the hype train, but I'll be making a minor exception here-

Assuming this takes place in a tropical setting, the only way I could see Ice-types being integrated is on the sea floor- the only place where it would get that cold. Which means you'd have to go diving to get your Ice-type pokemon. Now, this could be really interesting in and of itself, let alone any implications this could have on the game.

Now as for the "It all comes together" thing, I'm just going to guess that there's going to be some in-game world tournament or some great mystery surrounding the entire franchise being solved. Perhaps the answer to when or how Humans diverged from pokemon, or something involving the Legendaries. I dunno. Just sounds like they're trying to bring closure to some mystery. Or finally replace Ash/Satoshi with a new lead.

[Spineblade 20]

So it seems to me that a lot of people are keen on the idea of whatever new region Sun and Moon takes place in having a link back to Kalos in the same way as Johto did to Kanto.

My main question about that is, is it plausible? As I've said before, every generation so far has brought something new, graphically speaking, to the table. Gen 2 brought colour. Gen 3 brought richer colour and more detail all around. Gen 4 brought 3D modelled overworlds. Gen 5 touched up on that and added the animated battles. Gen 6 brought fully 3D overworlds, interiors, and battles. Going by this pattern, one would expect something new to be brought in Sun and Moon. What that may be, I have absolutely no idea. Maybe it'll be something as small as a stylistic change.

Whatever it may be, it will presumably be reflected in the entire region. Which makes me consider how they would approach making Kalos a playable region. If there is a graphical upgrade, then would it not be a huge, and somewhat unfulfillng(?) task to recreate Kalos in a new style? Given that regions are composed of 3D models nowadays, I imagine worldbuilding is a much more intensive job than it was back in the early days, so putting an entire extra region in a modern Pokemon game would be a big bite to chew. Maybe too big? I don't know. I'm not a developer.

Of course, this is all on the assumption that there will be a graphical upgrade. Maybe not. Maybe they'll just stick with what they know, and not try to make any improvements on their modelling engine or any of that stuff, so they would just copy-paste Kalos in (which I personally would consider...questionable). We'll see.

P.S. regardless of the whole 'graphical upgrade' thing, the actual storage space of the 3DS card might end up being an issue. Wikipedia tells me they go up to 8GB. Is that enough for modelling two entire regions?

[NeoDarklight 0]

That is a very good question. Hopefully the next Nintendo Direct will give us some answers.

In my educated opinion, however, 8GB would barely be enough for 2 regions, judging from file sizes of various games with large maps of varying detail. Unfortunately, it wouldn't be enough for two regions and all the other assets, including the increasingly large amount of data reserved for the Pokemon themselves. In my opinion, it would instead be to their benefit to integrate a larger and/or more in-depth environment to explore and play with. More features, in other words.

As for the data issue, I believe that whatever they end up having in store for the 8th generation of Pokemon games, it will be too much for the 3DS's hardware. So I suspect that, 3 years from now, there will be a new handheld console with enough power to handle anything after that for a while.

[bepe 9]

I think the reason many people are expecting kalos to be involved is that volcanion is a kalos pokemon that hasn't been released yet. Also, it would make sense for the zygarde forms to be released in something relating to kalos.