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The borked quote button thing is a known issue^^ Wish Chatot was still as good as it used to be, but I'm happy to see them utilize the fields more. It was good to see the burning field used to their advantage! Nexus did really well with the Taka battle. That Taka voice is awful tho lmao Tbh I'd love to see at least one of them get all the officers before the next Tangrowth battle, just for the sake of the extra story bits and the corrosive mist field RIP Twit's squad :]

Totally didn't sleepily mix the two up here, you saw nothing

Well, I'm glad they eventually noticed how useful Echoed Voice is. I'll stand by my opinion that Noctowl isn't even bad in Reborn, I've used it in three different playthroughs and never dropped it before Starly becomes available. They've actually been handling this gym decently imo. Made an effort to note how the field works, and while water spout didn't do anything it was nice to see them experiment. Some tactical improvement too.

I'll be honest, I agree that if they did a regular playthrough it would be more fun both for them and the viewers. The game does give you a decent selection of 'mons and items to actually work with the field effects and counter threats in major battles, and I think one of the most enjoyable aspects of Reborn is trying to figure out how to use fields to your advantage. They would probably have more fun trying to put together teams by their own choices. I don't doubt they'll continue the game normally eventually, but this episode was no fun at all. I still get a lot of moments when watching where I feel like if they tried just a little harder to think logically, or to step back and let something sink in for a second, they'd make more sense of the game mechanics. Or actually taking the time to read dialogue properly. "What do seeds do?" Idk man, it's like the NPC who gave them to you just told you. There's only so much that can be excused by "well, they're playing blind and weren't prepared"; plenty of things they missed out on are a case of not paying enough attention and being plain impatient. I'm not saying that it would automatically make nuzlocking the game easier, but it's no wonder they get frustrated so much when they're constantly confused about one thing or the other. It might also give them opportunities to appreciate the story more. I'm genuinely surprised they all glossed over the diary entries and the fairytale, it's like they weren't even remotely interested in these.

I mean, I was moreso talking about the players who are lacking one now. Shame about the Pancham, really.

With a bit of luck some of them may pick up a fighting type in the alleyway that becomes accessible to them in Obsidia now. That should help with Cradily. And then they'll find the Litleo and have to face that Klinklang in the railroad tunnel. Good thing it's no longer Lv. 45.

I'm starting to feel so bad for Jay, oh man. He's not gonna have a fun time in the gym unless he happens to catch some event 'mons he didn't get yet. Damn lucky for them they had their Grimers, though. This could've cost them quite a few 'mons otherwise. I don't think I've heard someone accuse Zero of mind-controlling Amaria and Florinia before, so that's a new one. Enjoyable hypothesis tbh.

I'm starting to feel sorry for them thinking a 'mon they're seeing will turn into an encounter for them. First Scraggy, now Popplio :') Good to see Jay regain something resembling a team. He should've sold the repels over the blast powder, though. Selling something when you don't know what it does is a bit counterproductive.

I'm kind of surprised you get the impression that people significantly dislike Taka. The last time someone posted a "favourite characters" poll here that got a good amount of votes, Taka was the second most voted for character after Cain, and the most popular Meteor character by a landslide. The third most voted character, Titania, received half the number of votes that Taka got. He's also possibly the character with the most amount of fanart. I don't think most of the people who point out his flaws actually dislike him, it's just the intended frustration we're supposed to feel^^

Eh, the first PULSE Tangrowth has been nerfed a lot in E15. It's... quite frankly not really much of a threat any more without the forest field and old moveset imo, rip I think they'll actually be fine in that battle. I doubt at that point they'll still be taken by surprise about mildly tough battles.

They did know they were about to face the electric leader, so if he had actually given mudsport a second of thought he might've noticed that it could come in handy. But alas, it's too late for that now. Moxie literally saves the early game, haha. That's how my Dark mono got all the way up to and past the TakaZEL battle with only two mons on the team. They better don't let those Mightyenas die for a while, it's a really useful earlygame 'mon. As for the Shiny clause, yeahhhh I didn't like the hints of trying to abuse it early in the vid, and hope they're going to set some rules for it. They're just too common in Reborn, catching them when randomly found is one thing, but hunting for them is basically cheating.

Tbh I personally wouldn't count Steelix for this. It's nowhere near as overpowered as Garchomp or Arceus. It's a more difficult fight if you weren't expecting it, but perfectly doable. Doesn't losing to Steelix white you out though? I never actually lost against it, so I legit dunno

I mean, in the end it comes down to what fans would be more disappointed with: A couple grinding montages or an early end of the entire project. I daresay it'd be the latter. I'm not saying everything should be at the level cap, but I really don't see the whole "no grinding because it'll annoy viewers" thing working out for them in the big picture.

Honestly? That's what I was thinking. Most of their teams were seriously underlevelled, I'm not one bit surprised about the massacre here. Tbh when I watch someone do a Nuzlocke run I expect some of the content to be grinding, cuz y'know. Nuzlocke. They could always just speed up that part of the vid and only slow it for noteworthy stuff (like mons dying); so that you see there was a grinding session but it doesn't take up too much time of the video. That, or release two vids at the same time, I guess, letting people know one is a grinding session and can be skipped if you're just there for the action. Going into this with such underlevelled teams was ridiculously reckless and it seems considerably less disappointing to me to watch 'em grind a bit, than to have them all white out earlygame and having the entire op end.

That, or if they bother to talk to the computer at the gym entrance (rip gym advice guy, you will be missed).

Man I was such a Rise Against fan as a teen that to this day I haven't seen my current favourite band live half as often as them. Good times. I like your taste. That said, welcome back and such!

Oh, hey, is it already that time again? Y'know, I don't really know how to write some sort of cool intro that doesn't just repeat what I've said last time. Glad I found my way here, thankful for all the amazing people I've met, blah blah. Something about how I didn't think I'd stay here for more than a month, and now it's been more than three years. So here we go~

Of course you are! And I know we'll be happy to see it~

I half disagree. Just because someone has a reason for acting like a jerk doesn't mean it makes their actions towards others any more okay. A reason is not an excuse. I have a personality disorder that makes me emotionally unstable and often aggressive. Doesn't mean I get a lifetime pass on being a dick. If someone gets one warning point for disrespect/rudeness and it turns out they had a shitty day, sure, that's one thing, but when you get to someone "rapidly" earning themselves a "stack" then it's clearly no longer an exceptional, isolated incident. If someone is in such a bad mood that they repeatedly lash out against others and can't trust themselves to spend time here without acting up so much it gets them actual warning points (which often implies they ignored verbal warnings), then the solution is for them to take a break from here for a while and work through whatever is causing the issues. Auth can reach out to people to ask if everything's alright with them, but they have to work on changing their tune by themselves in the end.

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I always have a soft spot for the early bird lines, and always will. It's not exactly a secret that I love birds, or that Flying is my favourite type, and as such I will always form an attachment to the first bird I get to catch in a Pokémon game. I guess based on final evos I'd go Staraptor > Noctowl > Toucannon > Pidgeot > Fearow > Swellow > Talonflame > Unfezant Pidgey's line has a very special place in my heart for essentially being the reason I wanted to start playing Pokémon. Pidgeotto used to be my most favourite 'mon when I was a little kid. I loved that design so much that I sort of started to collect TCG cards without even knowing how to play, just so I could get this line of cards. I was motivated to start playing the games because of the promise that I could have my very own Pidgeotto. And I always joke about how my BRY starter is nothing but a Pidgey catching device... but really, they totally are. Pidgey is my Gen I starter, it has so much nostalgic value to me. Little Ama was so proud to have a Pidgeotto lmao. I'm also a huge Fearow fan for nostalgic reasons. I think it's just a really neat and simple design, and always enjoyed using it in the games. Starly's line if possibly my favourite of them all. For a whole while, Staraptor was my favourite Pokémon, dethroning Pidgeotto. It's so cool-looking and so good. Easily the ace of my Diamond run, an so loved that I just had to keep transferring it onto my new games just so I could keep it around. I think out of all my team members thoughout all the games, my Staraptor is second favourite only to my first Dodrio. Hoothoot's line is another I have a ton of nostalgia for. I was a very hyped kid when GS came out, and with all the new Pokémon to discover, I was thrilled when I played Gold and got to catch myself that owl. Noctowl remained my ace throughout that save file. And honestly? I still love using it. I still end up catching it when I get the opportunity. Got a second wind of appreciation using it in Reborn. It takes hits that you wouldn't expect it to take, and the only thing I ultimately lament about it is that it isn't part Psychic. Design-wise I find Hoothoot to be the more creative one, but I really do like Noctowl's look still. Noctowl's damn underrated, smh. I have perhaps the least attachment to Taillow's line, because Gen III was the one generation sans I that I didn't get to play on release. I didn't have a GBA, so I only played Sapphire and Emerald after I got a DS, and after playing Diamond. I like their design and enjoy using them, but there isn't really all that much emotion attached to them because they've never been a notable team member for me. (Pooch took the spot of the forever early friend in Gen III for me.) But still, can't hate guts swellow, mmmm. I really wanted to like Pidove's line more than I do. The prospect of having an actual pigeon line (since Pidgey's doesn't really look like pigeons) was great, because they're some of my fave birds. And I like the look of Pidove and Tranquill. But oh man, Unfezant. I was both disappointed that a pigeon turned into a completely unrelated type of bird, and insulted that of all the possibilities that came with a pheasant design, we got this. I adore pheasants. Kept pheasants before. And Unfezant is just really, really lackluster in appearance to me. even with pidove's colour scheme you could've done better. (Grey peacock-pheasants, anyone?) Doesn't help that it has 115 base Attack and the only physical Flying move it learns by level-up is Sky Attack at 66. Unfezant is a physical attacker with a mostly special level-up pool. For some reason. To be fair, non-Mega Pidgeot is kind of in the same boat, but the much bigger difference between Unfezant's Atk and SpA make it a lot more jarring. Talonflame may just be my lest favourite besides Unfezant. I don't actually know, why, though. Besides maybe the fact that we've got another species change on our hands. I'm not sure if they had no better ideas for an evolution line of robins, or no idea for a first-stage bird of prey, but it lowkey bothers me. I like Fletchling, it's beyond adorable. I just can't really warm up (ha... I'll escort myself out in a moment) to Talonflame. It's not even a bad design. Just not my cup of tea, I guess. Just didn't click with it when I tried to use it in X. Toucannon is amazing. I fucking love Toucannon. I'm sort of assuming they wanted to make a toucan mon, but couldn't come up with good toucan-looking pre-evos that didn't spoil Toucannon's main feature (the beak) too much, and that's why they went with their relative, the woodpecker. I guess it'd have been difficult to make pre-evos that look like toucans without making the final evo look kind of unexciting? But look, I don't care, man. People keep saying it looks too uninspired, I think it looks awesome. "A toucan but he's angry" is more than good enough for me tbh. Real toucan bills are, among other things, used for thermoregulation, so the concept of beak blast is just really fun to me. Also, shiny Toucannon is a bisexual icon and I cherish it.