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Roleblocked I was, but my life is yet my own. Whoever roleblocked me will not silence the voice of truth.

I had whispered to both Lykos and Seal, I tried making them admit their alignments and stated that i will expose them if they lied, but only Lykos mentioned he was town and did not seem to be lying.

Seal was not very chatty, perhaps he was mafia scum and feared i might expose him, thus roleblocking me. That is the only conclusion i can come up with.

I will likely get killed or poisoned because of my role, but at least i was able to say this.

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Is there perhaps a veteran in this setup? 

Apparently there are two roles with unstoppable attacks. But since nobody died last night I guess the roles have to be visited to be able to kill? 

Also I got roleblocked too

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Two roleblocks. There are 4 roles that can roleblock. Of the 4(escort, consort, jailor and pirate), I think escort/jailor and consort are the most likely because they are on opposite sides of each other. Eric and Amine. did you guys fight a duel because if you did, then one of the roleblockers is the pirate. Also, I stumbled on role called the hypnotist when looking up roles. Apparently, they can send a false message saying someone can be roleblocked. I don't know if this role is in the game but I have a gut feeling Nano would put this role in here to mess with us. Also, my poisoned messaged can also be false so if two play claimed to be poisoned, then there's probably the hypnotist in the game. However, I still would like to be healed since I don't want to die😅

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10 minutes ago, Astra125 said:

Two roleblocks. There are 4 roles that can roleblock. Of the 4(escort, consort, jailor and pirate), I think escort/jailor and consort are the most likely because they are on opposite sides of each other. Eric and Amine. did you guys fight a duel because if you did, then one of the roleblockers is the pirate. Also, I stumbled on role called the hypnotist when looking up roles. Apparently, they can send a false message saying someone can be roleblocked. I don't know if this role is in the game but I have a gut feeling Nano would put this role in here to mess with us. Also, my poisoned messaged can also be false so if two play claimed to be poisoned, then there's probably the hypnotist in the game. However, I still would like to be healed since I don't want to die😅

Fight a what? 

I didn't do no duels

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The pirate challenges one person to a duel and during the night phase, the person essentially plays a rock-paper-scissors game with the pirate. If the pirate wins, the person is attacked. If the person wins, nothing happens. Either way the person is roleblocked and also receives a message if they were successful in the duel or not.

I'm just asking this to see if there can be any explanation to the roleblocks

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13 minutes ago, Astra125 said:

The pirate challenges one person to a duel and during the night phase, the person essentially plays a rock-paper-scissors game with the pirate. If the pirate wins, the person is attacked. If the person wins, nothing happens. Either way the person is roleblocked and also receives a message if they were successful in the duel or not.

I'm just asking this to see if there can be any explanation to the roleblocks

Wow the pirate is an asshole

Well no duel happened so 

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Guys.
Th-the jailor locked me up and did bad things to me last night 😭

 

So we have 2 more additionally blocked here? I'm not sure how all the roles work, but from the looks of things, I think we have the escort/consort with those then.

I don't really know how this pirate role works, or anything of fake messages, but ig this makes it pretty complex....

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Are you hungry?

Are you poor?

Are you dissatisfied with everything?

 

DRINK HOT6

EAT HOT6

BRUSH YOUR TEETH IN HOT6

BATHE WITH HOT6
HOT6 WILL CURE EVERYTHING

HOT6 WILL SAVE YOU

 

[ELIMINATE] ERIC

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3 hours ago, Dragoknight said:

Guys.
Th-the jailor locked me up and did bad things to me last night 😭

What bad things!? 

Did you get any idea who it could've been, Drago? 

 

1 hour ago, Chickens said:

Are you hungry?

Are you poor?

Are you dissatisfied with everything?

 

DRINK HOT6

EAT HOT6

BRUSH YOUR TEETH IN HOT6

BATHE WITH HOT6
HOT6 WILL CURE EVERYTHING

HOT6 WILL SAVE YOU

Yes. Yes. Yes. 

What's Hot6?

 

5 hours ago, GenEric said:

Also we definitely need to find all coven members before night 3 so they don't get the necronomicon

All of them? What happens when they get it?

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1 hour ago, mimi said:

What bad things!? 

Did you get any idea who it could've been, Drago? 

 

Yes. Yes. Yes. 

What's Hot6?

 

All of them? What happens when they get it?

The coven leader gets it first

But if they're dead before that a random coven member gets it

It basically gives them a big boost to their powers and an unfair advantage

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2 hours ago, Chickens said:

Are you hungry?

Are you poor?

Are you dissatisfied with everything?

 

DRINK HOT6

EAT HOT6

BRUSH YOUR TEETH IN HOT6

BATHE WITH HOT6
HOT6 WILL CURE EVERYTHING

HOT6 WILL SAVE YOU

 

[ELIMINATE] ERIC

Bean wtf

There better be a good reason for this other than randomness

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Welp. With people claiming to get roleblocked, it becomes clearer to me that one of them might have attempted a kill. The evidence matches up to the phase post where we learned that nobody died, but it could be that we don’t yet have a killing role in play, or at least one that can’t act yet. (If the PlagueBearer exists, once they infect everyone alive at that point, I’m pretty sure they turn into a role that can start killing people.)

 

I have not played much as the Coven Leader in ToS itself, but from my understanding I think it works like the Witch role from ToS (it literally replaces said role in the Coven), in the sense where it can control one person into another. I am not sure which roles exist in this setup, but Coven Leader will be pretty dangerous after N3 as I am pretty sure access to the Necronomicon gives them the ability to drain the life force of those they control (essentially killing them).

 

Since this is pretty much AnyAll Chaos, I’m probably not going to be surprised with roles that exist.

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Okay so Thats a lot to process:
3 people claimed roleblocked, on of them specifically by the jailor
the other 2 didn't mention a pirate duel so that would have to be escorts/consorts
there is also the possibility that a hypnotist could have planted one of those messages
the thing about both Hypnotist and Consort is that for them to exist there would also be a mafioso, if there is a mafia faction it always has a mafioso that is their nightkiller, if a mafia faction ends up without one, then one of the other mafia roles turns into a mafioso (unless they have a godfather, he would take over the killing if there is no mafioso) so the thing with that is for consort or hypnotist to exist a mafioso would exist and have somehow failed a nightkill last night (which is possible) roleblocking is possible here, so something to keep in mind

the only other evil roles that could have killed this night (without getting visited that is) would be the potion master for the coven (that has a cooldown without him having the necronomicon)  or the Serial killer (none of the roleblocked people can be a serial killer if they really were blocked, unless the roleblocker was also protected by a doctor, as the serial killer would kill someone roleblocking them instead of their original target)

5 hours ago, mimi said:

What bad things!? 

Did you get any idea who it could've been, Drago? 

just in case it wasn't clear drago is just being flavourful, the jailor is a town role

Amine's message strikes me as extremly odd not gonna lie, that is some extreme conclusion jumping combined with softclaiming a role that really shouldn't be softclaimed D2
especially if that role has no actually results due to a roleblock (which could very well have been from a townsided role)
also Seal is pretty much always not very chatty

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Ah yes, I was in fact challenged to a duel by the Pirate, however i pulled big brain plays and sidestepped their rapier.

I didnt say anything until Nano told me the result of that duel

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17 hours ago, Amine said:

Roleblocked I was, but my life is yet my own. Whoever roleblocked me will not silence the voice of truth.

I had whispered to both Lykos and Seal, I tried making them admit their alignments and stated that i will expose them if they lied, but only Lykos mentioned he was town and did not seem to be lying.

Seal was not very chatty, perhaps he was mafia scum and feared i might expose him, thus roleblocking me. That is the only conclusion i can come up with.

I will likely get killed or poisoned because of my role, but at least i was 

So you know both of their roles/alignments then? Even when you got roleblocked? 

 

2 hours ago, Falirion said:

Okay so Thats a lot to process:
3 people claimed roleblocked, on of them specifically by the jailor
the other 2 didn't mention a pirate duel so that would have to be escorts/consorts
there is also the possibility that a hypnotist could have planted one of those messages
the thing about both Hypnotist and Consort is that for them to exist there would also be a mafioso, if there is a mafia faction it always has a mafioso that is their nightkiller, if a mafia faction ends up without one, then one of the other mafia roles turns into a mafioso (unless they have a godfather, he would take over the killing if there is no mafioso) so the thing with that is for consort or hypnotist to exist a mafioso would exist and have somehow failed a nightkill last night (which is possible) roleblocking is possible here, so something to keep in mind

the only other evil roles that could have killed this night (without getting visited that is) would be the potion master for the coven (that has a cooldown without him having the necronomicon)  or the Serial killer (none of the roleblocked people can be a serial killer if they really were blocked, unless the roleblocker was also protected by a doctor, as the serial killer would kill someone roleblocking them instead of their original target)

just in case it wasn't clear drago is just being flavourful, the jailor is a town role

Amine's message strikes me as extremly odd not gonna lie, that is some extreme conclusion jumping combined with softclaiming a role that really shouldn't be softclaimed D2
especially if that role has no actually results due to a roleblock (which could very well have been from a townsided role)
also Seal is pretty much always not very chatty

Is the usual roleblocked message the same as the ones sent by the hypnotist? 

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7 hours ago, mimi said:

What bad things!? 

Did you get any idea who it could've been, Drago? 

T-they chained me up and- and they didn't even take my safeword 😭

 

Yeah I can confirm it was the jailer from the fact there was a chat open. Strangely enough, the only thing the jailor said was "good vibrations 😩" and 21 hours into the night,

It seems to me like someone pretending to be Bean to not give away their identity to anyone just yet. A fair move on their part I suppose.

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2 minutes ago, Dragoknight said:

T-they chained me up and- and they didn't even take my safeword 😭

 

Yeah I can confirm it was the jailer from the fact there was a chat open. Strangely enough, the only thing the jailor said was "good vibrations 😩" and 21 hours into the night,

It seems to me like someone pretending to be Bean to not give away their identity to anyone just yet. A fair move on their part I suppose.

I'm sorry but that imagery is hilarious

A jailor putting up two fingers and saying good vibrations

Don't drop the soap

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I know little about ToS roles, but the lack of night victims makes me think there aren't too many roles that directly kill. Perhaps a mafia factional kill, and at most another one that may have been unlucky and/or chosen to abstain.

It's also possible that all the roleblocked peepos were killers and/or targets, but that'd be mighty lucky. And that's assuming people who claim to have been roleblocked were indeed roleblocked.

 

The NA results given or implied by several players, notably Astra, Drago and Amine, are interesting though.

 

If I understand correctly we can't directly vote to eliminate someone right? First we have to put them on trial, and then they can be either executed or spared. This double layer makes it a bit more difficult for a lynch to actually go through, which doesn't work in town's favor.

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I forgot to mention this sooner, but there seems to be another roleblocker in play. I got roleblocked last night as well; with good reason, I suppose. Sorry for not mentioning it before, I thought my previous post was lengthy enough.

 

Either we really do have this amount of roleblockers, someone’s trying to lie about being blocked, or it confirms there’s a Hypnotiser in the setup as well.

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