SilverAngelus 926 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Water : 20 Grass : 23 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 20 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 14 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Heal myself Dragon, hurt Wolfox Fairy Link to post Share on other sites
Hycrox 273 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 still salty about ma boi chompers >:[ but Azu is mostly due to how fat it is and how hard it gets to hit, even if there are many good walls for it. Same with Maw. tho my issue with azu is due to it having aqua jet. Toxic is only for whirlpool sets made to wall grass tho. And toge, like all others, is an example, not the reason I dislike the type Link to post Share on other sites
Veterans Azeria 390 Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water : 20 Grass : 23 Dragon : 15 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 20 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 12 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Oh boy. My hatred of fairies burns fiercely. Link to post Share on other sites
seki108 1226 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Hurt Dragon, Heal Fairy Dammit Wolfox, why did you bait them? Water : 20 Grass : 23 Dragon : 13 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 20 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 13 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Link to post Share on other sites
Veterans Azeria 390 Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water : 20 Grass : 23 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 20 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 11 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Omae wa mou shindeiru. Link to post Share on other sites
HUEnd 129 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water : 20 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 11 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Link to post Share on other sites
Anstane 71 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Well, I think it's safe to assume which two-three types are going to be the first to fall at this point. As for me, second verse, same as the first. Water : 20 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 11 Rock : 18 Poison : 18 Psychic : 20 Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfox 2093 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Heal fairy. Hurt water Water : 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 12 Rock : 18 Poison : 18 Psychic : 20 If they're not the reason you hate the type, then why use them as an example in the first place? And Azu being a bit bulky while having a high attack isn't something I would call "Toxic". When I think of a Toxic mon I think of those annoying as stall mons or the ones who are only good for bulk (nice example are toxapex, chansey, bronzong... there are enough on that list to keep me going for ages), and I hate to be that guy but there are not a lot of pure stall mons that are fairy type. in fact outside of Clef and maybe whimsi I don't see too any true stall mons at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Chim 20 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Why would anyone want to hurt steel? Heal steel. Hurt fairy Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 14 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy: 10 Rock : 18 Poison : 18 Psychic : 20 Link to post Share on other sites
J-Awesome_One 1328 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Hurt Steel & Heal Poison Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy: 10 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Link to post Share on other sites
Corso 165 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I can't hurt Fairy because of Gardevoir, but Electric has Ampharos, so... Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 18 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 24 Flying : 20 Fairy: 10 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Link to post Share on other sites
Veterans Azeria 390 Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 15 Electric : 18 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 24 Flying : 20 Fairy: 8 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Fairy as a type is just stupid. Link to post Share on other sites
Hycrox 273 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 16 Electric : 18 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 24 Flying : 20 Fairy: 6 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 what the asshat above said. I simply dislike Fairy as a type, as well as a good portion of Fairy-types. I consider Azu toxic due to it being unfair in a way, as it gets to be bulky, have a great attack stat, priority, and Belly Drum. It's toxic in the way that Linoone, with BD extreme speed, is toxic. Toxic as in unfair, not just boring. And while Azu is not the sole reason I dislike the Fairy type, it is part of it, like Togekiss, and all other mons I've mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites
SilverAngelus 926 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 17 Electric : 18 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 22 Flying : 20 Fairy: 6 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Heal Dragon, hurt Bug I'll let you slide this time Fairy types. Link to post Share on other sites
Alistair 705 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 17 Electric : 18 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 22 Flying : 20 Fairy: 4 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Go home, fairies. Omae wa mou shindeiru. Link to post Share on other sites
Chickens 226 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 17 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 4 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Link to post Share on other sites
EndearingCharacterTrait 60 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 15 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 4 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 I would argue Fairy only exists because Dragon was already disgusting If Dragon disappeared I don't think I'd even miss it tbh Link to post Share on other sites
Veterans Azeria 390 Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Share Posted December 24, 2017 Intentionally so. They were from the start designed to be the best type in terms of raw stats and power. Could've just buffed other types like Ice to deal with them better instead of adding a type that shits on Dragon and a fuck ton of other types while having a lack of weaknesses itself. Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfox 2093 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 @Azeria either I read the rules wrong or you did. if I'm correct you can only do one hurt and one heal each day, and you can't tell me that in 14 hours 2 days have passed Link to post Share on other sites
Veterans Azeria 390 Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Share Posted December 24, 2017 Oh, my bad then. Deleting that part~ Link to post Share on other sites
EndearingCharacterTrait 60 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Yeah I get it. It's just...Dragon has the highest average HP, Attack, Special Attack, and Special Defense, and was only resisted by one type before Fairy (which incidentally has the lowest average Defense) Near perfect neutral coverage and the highest attack stats? It just seemed a bit excessive to me, but buffing other types (maybe give Ice a Dragon resistance, don't know if that makes sense though) probably would have also worked Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfox 2093 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 16 Grass : 24 Dragon : 15 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 19 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 4 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Hurt Water (take a wild guess what my least favorite type is guys. I bet you'll never guess). Heal Dark (gave up on keeping fairy alive, so might as well focus on my second favorite type) Link to post Share on other sites
St0mpa 32 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 16 Grass : 24 Dragon : 15 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 19 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 2 Rock : 19 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Kill the damm pixies. Healing up one of my favorite types. Link to post Share on other sites
seki108 1226 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hurt Dragon, Heal Fairy I was going to pick a different type and leave Fairy to die, but then I decided to have an extra person waste their turn instead. Still aiming for (one of??) the most unbalanced type(s) for 5 generations. Water: 16 Grass : 24 Dragon : 13 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 19 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 3 Rock : 19 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Link to post Share on other sites
Anstane 71 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Same thing as before. Water: 16 Grass : 24 Dragon : 13 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 22 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 19 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 3 Rock : 19 Poison : 18 Psychic : 20 Link to post Share on other sites
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