Lucifer Morningstar

Ayuda? That's an interesting theory and speaking of him, I noticed that in 13.5 he gives the quest alone now when he used to be accompanied by a wife named May (so that their names create the Spanish phrase 'Ayuda Me' which means 'help me'), I wonder what happened there? Another has just occurred to me. The king whose soul was cursed, trapped inside of a coffigregus for creating the Spiritomb Crest, King Ieisel, lived in a castle named Zygara, so I'm wondering if it could be him.

As I have gathered the Renegade route won't have a postgame for the obvious reason that its plot will conclude with the world decimated and as such, I can see it not having an Elite 8 since the league and champion won't matter in a doomed world but it should nonetheless be able to remain at pace with Paragon until the main plot ending. There are still quite a few factors for it to work with such as Aleita's rise as Karma's chosen hero to take the protag down, M2 and the protag's whole allegiance with Clear and Kieren. Ha. As I see it, Renegade---or hell perhaps even Paragon, the Rejuv plot in general, should be the most legit situation to use Debug a fangame has ever created since we're the interceptor, intervening with fate and isn't resetting the world kind of debugging? I don't mean to indorse Debug, I just find it kind of amusingly ironic.

Well damn. Welp, if Rejuv did decide to go in the core/host direction it's up to them which lore to use.

There are some interesting theories being suggested here and I concur with quite a few points that have been made:

I am sorry that you are feeling this way. If you're struggling with this aspect of the game so much perhaps Rejuv isn't for you.

That has crossed my mind but he uses the name Alexandra in that conversation and in addition the first time Damien approaches the MC to inquire if they've seen her, the description he gives does fit Nim but he tells them he does not know what name she might have used with them because she uses aliases which Alexandra does not Nim. That has been confusing me even while I was playing this section in V12. It's now possible to choose not to undo stopping Vivian's sacrafice? Wouldn't that cause it to be impossible to return to the timeline we came from/where we belong? Forgive me, knowing me, I might be misunderstanding something. Nor am I sure I am following this free will concept. You seem to be claiming paragon is not free will but the game is designed so that it's near impossible if not impossible to get the renegade option without wanting to/knowingly making the corresponding choices. That's free will. The fact that we even get choices such as saving Amber rather than them being main story requirements is free will.

I as well have a converted file started in V12 and experienced this. Crawli's gym puzzle restarts as well. There is a warning on the download page that converted files might experience bugs.

Soul mentioned there is a password to use the IW before it's officially given but at the point you're at you don't really need it, you're pretty close.

I am re-watching an old V12 playthrough on Youtube (for fun) and there is a line that resonated with a reveal in 13.5.

Personally, I enjoyed the challenge of learning to strategize with a preset team but at one point you do receive something called 'interceptor's wish' which allows the choice to use your own team as other characters. While it is strange that Texan leveled up past his gym cap, didn't he express a burning desire to get back at Aelita? So perhaps that motivated him to create a seperate, higher-level team just for her?

I much prefer this perspective; it fits together more cohesively than what the Youtubers were discussing, but with M2 being unaware of the connection, why would she go back to the beginning of renegade just to be instrumental in its success?

Funny thing, I accidentally triggered this portion of the quest as Odessa during the 'Tale of Two Hearts' quest post Karma. but I didn't go through with it post opening the hidden door until I finished 'Tale of Two Hearts' and went back to being me. I probably could have gone through the whole thing as Odessa. Ana didn't notice at all that I was suddenly a blond chick instead of the orange haired dude she knew lol.

If there are nine, I am missing one as the information desk tells me I have eight but I remember all of those except I am fuzzy on the virtual league one. I did complete that in V12 but I only think I might vaguely remember it awarding a stamp.

Moonblast, Clam Mind, Misty Terrain and Shadow Ball.

That' d be dope if you're cool with it. Oh, I saw the thumbnail for that. I need to watch that.

I had not heard of Xenogene before this quest and it made me hate that it was scrapped. I want it so bad!

Is it possible for Karen and Florin to be dead in Paragon and if so, how does it affect the events of that route, Karen's event in particular since I want to see this Re Genesect:

Somehow, I feel as though I have been with this game for such a long time but I have not. I started in V12 in May 2020, right at the beginning of quarantine. I noticed something while checking the date in my starter's profile. The location where he was obtained has been removed despite that it has not changed since he was my starter and considering I ditched him for his daughter a month later almost to the day it's kinda eerie.

Her stealing your Pokemon is obnoxious but basically every single time she did she killed it herself with surf. Domain Shift and Mom's Sylveon were the GOATs in this battle.

Thanx. I had no memory of that location name; I am assuming it's new so the fact that it is not labeled on the map was very confusing.

Well considering this thread has existed for over a year with no release it does feel quite a bit as though the game has been abandoned. Though I hope that is not the case, this game looks dope.

Awesome. Thanx. This is what I came here to report. I just started the game and the toggle option is not working for me either but the S key did.

Interesting. I am all for backstory, the more the better. Thanx for the input.

Is the significance of the Perfection Serum choice in the Cresent sewer lab and the effects of taking it known right now? The journal entries more or less guarantee that taking the serum is a bad choice and will lead to consequences down the line, perhaps even the bad ending but I would appreciate confirmation and am curious about the details.