So, you wanna play Pokemon Reborn...

[David 0]

You're definitely allowed to have the opinion that you don't like the game but some of the things said were a bit strange.

For example- it has been said you can Catch 'em All by the end of episode 19 (the final episode) this means that all of the nerfed pokemon will be available by the end of the game. Earlier players have some pokemon available to them that were called too powerful and either moved or nerfed (for now). This was all to keep the integral challenge of the game.

You also seem to be saying that because this is quite different from the standard pokemon mold it isn't pokemon and more like Final Fantasy or something. It is still a pokemon game. You catch and battle with pokemon challenging gyms. It is very much a pokemon game.

There is also no need to compare this to another game. They are different games and people will have opinions on what which one is better but Ame and whoever made liquid crystal wouldn't want people to be comparing their games as the aren't competing. There is space for more than one good pokemon game in the world so there is no need to say it could never compare to the one you like more.

Also saying the game asks you to cheat is somewhat ridiculous. The game is hard and asks you to think about strategy towards leaders but it in no way asks you to cheat. Cheating is an easy way out of the challenge the game poses.

So overall, no-one is stopping you from deleting the game. If you don't enjoy it you shouldn't play it. But why you are bashing up a game that so many of us enjoy for being unconventional and difficult bemuses me.

Episode 19 expected for the end of times and I bet on it.

Also, I'm a free user; why should I wait for the end of the serie to catch something that i should be able to have? Because it makes too much easy the game? If it's the case, I can refrain myself, you know, it's something called logic.

You can deny it but the plot is more FF than Pokemon.

It's not to compare things, I need to explain it better. If the goal is to make something which is new and different, well this is. But not always newer and different is better. If you value the atmosphere of the original games, this is worse. A lot.

First page (and too lazy to use the reply button) says it's a very difficult game. And for most people, cheats are the solution. That given, cheat are and will always be ubiquitus. More difficult = more using cheats is convenient.

You can find my comment hilarious as i find hilarious that someone put this much effort to nerf a game to make it more difficult (and expect newbies not to use cheats).

[Levy 0]

Episode 19 expected for the end of times and I bet on it.

Also, I'm a free user; why should I wait for the end of the serie to catch something that i should be able to have? Because it makes too much easy the game? If it's the case, I can refrain myself, you know, it's something called logic.

You can deny it but the plot is more FF than Pokemon.

It's not to compare things, I need to explain it better. If the goal is to make something which is new and different, well this is. But not always newer and different is better. If you value the atmosphere of the original games, this is worse. A lot.

First page (and too lazy to use the reply button) says it's a very difficult game. And for most people, cheats are the solution. That given, cheat are and will always be ubiquitus. More difficult = more using cheats is convenient.

You can find my comment hilarious as i find hilarious that someone put this much effort to nerf a game to make it more difficult (and expect newbies not to use cheats).

I have to create an account because Reborn is definitely one of the best Pokemon games I ever played.

David, I think you might get something wrong. No one can stop you from using cheat engines if you really want to. Probably no one cares anyway. Personally, I don't think of using cheats because in my opinion, having to use it means that i've lost the game already.This defeats the purpose of even trying to play. Besides, what's the fun in doing so ? There's so much more to enjoy other than winnings and bragging about it.

Eps 19 could be by the end of time like you said, but I believe it'll still worth the wait.

[Omega_Ra1der 4]

Episode 19 expected for the end of times and I bet on it.

Also, I'm a free user; why should I wait for the end of the serie to catch something that i should be able to have? Because it makes too much easy the game? If it's the case, I can refrain myself, you know, it's something called logic.

You can deny it but the plot is more FF than Pokemon.

It's not to compare things, I need to explain it better. If the goal is to make something which is new and different, well this is. But not always newer and different is better. If you value the atmosphere of the original games, this is worse. A lot.

First page (and too lazy to use the reply button) says it's a very difficult game. And for most people, cheats are the solution. That given, cheat are and will always be ubiquitus. More difficult = more using cheats is convenient.

You can find my comment hilarious as i find hilarious that someone put this much effort to nerf a game to make it more difficult (and expect newbies not to use cheats).

This is coming from a vet. Dude, why play it if you expect to catch all them. Reborn is a challenging game due to having limited options. Sure I may be guilty of having axed pokemon but still it is hard. You will learn to adapt and get better. Hell, I found some underated pokemon that are good. Tell me why it is more like FF, it is a fanfiction of the former league here. But it is your opinon. Btw, a lot people whose beaten the game did it through skill and strategy. Now please, chill before it comes a flame war.

[Nivircity 0]

SPOILER ALERT!!

I just defeated the 3rd PULSE Tangrowth, i started playing Reborn 4 days ago and here's some stuff i thought of the game:

-I can't stand that effing Fern character, like seriously this guy left me in a cage because i refused to be on my knees for him, and even though i win against him he can't respect me...betch.... (it's a character you just love to hate).

-I picked my favorite starter (Mudkip) and to be honest, so far there was no use of him being around my team even though i keep leveling him up, i'm not taking him out from my team anyway, hopefully he will help me in future gyms.

-The second gym (Florina) pretty much kicked my ass, i had in my team (Marshtamp, Espurr, Pancham and Wheepinbell) and i couldn't win against her at all, it took me few hours to catch 2 Pidoves and level them up to level 25 to finally win, unbelievable strategy she uses.

-There's not a single fire type pokemon i've seen in wild so far, i seriously need one.

-I'm getting addicted to this game, the funny thing is, it makes me so angry every time i play it and i just LOVE every minute of it

-I tried getting my dream team at first but then i threw away that idea once i moved to deeper level of the game, you don't need a stupid dream team...you need to fucking survive lol

[mde2001 236]

-There's not a single fire type pokemon i've seen in wild so far, i seriously needed one.

You can catch a Numel at the station when it is raining.

[Dragon116 13]

Just a few notes from my experience in reborn.

1) Reborn is known for it's story above all else. The challenges do get overwhelming at times, but it's the story that motivates you to continue. In regular canon, the story is horrendous and the only reason I go through the torture is to unlock all the goodies at the end.

2) All the Reborn staff have said the use of Cheat Engine and RPGMaker XP are up to the individual users, however they don't want the forums being populated by posts and topics encouraging people to use these methods. The breeding guide is the only exception I've found so far.

3) The challenge level of the game is the second most important point of Reborn. The limiting of TMs, HMs, and pokemon until they aren't as OP is up to the development team. When you play any game, you're playing the developer's vision, not necessarily the expectations of the fan base.

[Nivircity 0]

There's a cheat engine to this game?....awww that would take all the fun away. It's like using a powersaver

[Beliar 1]

There's a cheat engine to this game?....awww that would take all the fun away. It's like using a powersaver

Once i cheat in mewtwo as my starter with 100% one hit ko move in other game i don't remember which one now . Got bored after 4 "fights". I love how hard this game is. I never was min/maxing in pokemon games before, so some gyms were ~10 tries for me. Only problem for me is constant feeling of being lost. I needed to look several times for where to go , online. Also some puzzles are harder than gym battles. Otherwise challange is good. Didn't feel like there is a brick wall in front of me.

[nugget_22 0]

I think it's a good challenge because I completed ORAS in 2 days and I lose half my team on each gym leader.

[thedeath245 0]

I read this before I started playing the game.
Now that I'm done with ep15, I can tell you this stuff here is real...
Goddamn Gym Leaders are hard, like Noel gave me nightmare for 3days... I got so mad, I retrained my whole team just to beat that kid
Also further down, Gym leaders have perfect EV/IV Nature... imagine every pokemon is faster than yours....

p/s FERN... I seriously wanna kill that a********

[Kyon-kun 0]

This describes my pokemon Reborn experience fairly well x)

[TheLuca 163]

Gym leaders have no souls and receive sustenance from your hatred.

Oh, the Grass gym. Feh, I got some Fire- and Flying-types. This'll be a cinch! It might be kinda tricky, but things are going well so fa--A CRADILY?! WTF?! *Smack Down. Total party kill.* FUUUUUUUU--

My favorite part

[H.P. Doom 5]

To give a small example, a simple game of rock paper scissors. He chooses rock and u have paper. You win right? Well not in Reborn, here the rock as thorns and pricks to tear that paper in half. Scissors? diamond on inside with lava that pours out when touched to melt rocks. Paper? made of tiny chemicals that explode if touched. (The OP choices are not for u mind btw)

[Anthony810 5]

You face Shelly and you think Bugs eh, this will be fun, out comes Yanmega and Speed Boost RIP Fire and Flying types.

[Dragon116 13]

You face Shelly and you think Bugs eh, this will be fun, out comes Yanmega and Speed Boost RIP Fire and Flying types.

And then you pull out a Sudowoodo with Rock Slide and laugh in her face because Sturdy =D

[whodat09 2]

And then you pull out a Sudowoodo with Rock Slide and laugh in her face because Sturdy =D

Or just use flame burst and burn the field

[armdaggerblade 0]

Hi guys. Imma new face here. First of all, I had to thank Ame, glitchxcity and everybody else involved in... crafting such a fine game. Hats off to timber dragon too for that well-made description (i believe it should be a staple in a reborn's main advertising pamphlet )

I've came a long way with Pokemon; started with red and yellow back in 2000 (studied my ass off, aced the exam before ma bought me one lol) all the way up to BW2 (worked part-time for the DS). Honestly, I feel like what most people do with official Pokemon games; bland, and getting more bland with each new release. The only icing on the cake new versions offer are new mons, new graphics and some minor mini games/overhaul; story plot and battle-wise, it's pretty much the same thing, over, and over, and over. Sure, PvP is a great addition ever since it became mainstream in DP but then again, not everyone is of the competitive sort (i don't) and while it can be fun and all, in the end, that's that; you fight one person and stalk the waiting room (sometimes for hours) for another battle- the core game itself contributes very little to the fun. BW2 only managed to crank the fun up by a mere notch with the introduction of PWT. I do understand that nintendo aimed pokemon games mainly for kids but for them to set aside the grown-up fanbase so they can continue milking on the niche with the same, albeit slightly repurposed tool repeatedly, is almost evil- and enough's enough.

When I heard XY are going to be released for 3DS, I'm like "screw this, it's not worth it anymore for me to fork my cash and get a 3DS". By the time of ORAS, I almost got myself de-pokemon-ized; suggesting myself that pokemon games are things of the past and i have to move on from them since, well, i'm already thinking differently as an adult and the cliched 'story of friendship, bond between pet and master, fighting evil team striving to conquer the world, be the best like no one ever was in the pokemon world' formula barely appeals to me anymore.

....Then some time around Dec 2015, i saw pokemon reborn brought up in a certain game download site i frequent to. I held myself from checking it out till few weeks ago and as much as i had enough with pokemon, i managed to drag myself to the comments sections (mainly out of intrigue since it's for PC). Once i see words like 'very hard', 'adult-oriented story', 'limited roster so you have to use your head when making teams' and 'the best pokemon game there is out there', my curiosity got the best of me and the next sec, there I go, waiting few minutes for the 500mb's to pass.

I had to say the music remixes and the world design (especially reborn city and the wastelands) is done real good. Admittedly, it made me chuckle a little at first seeing the word 'shit' uttered by a pokemon game NPC but as the story goes, thing got more serious and immersive. Reborn city's various society castes, the sheer terror of team meteor, memorable and likeable characters (everytime i saw Cain i'm like "hey there, Cain mah nigga!") and literally happening deaths really impressed me on how such things can blend in so well with pokemon. Battle-wise, I purposely challenged myself to play with low-grind, majorly poison-type team (blastoise, muk, arbok, weezing, skuntank, magnezone); something I've never done in any other games before and boy, add that to how kickass the battles are, it's been a real blast! While I managed to clear most gyms with some ingenuity, some F12s and luck (and toxic :v), Luna got me whooped real good. I used so much F12 till i finally buckled up from the hopelessness of every strategy i came up with and had to backtrack to unlock the powerplant's hidden room just so I can evolve my magneton and have an extra edge over her. Really, battles are a thrill in this game; heck, underestimate roadside trainers at your own cost :v

Currently just arrived at Spinel City.

Back to the story, while that one police dude's death is a tragedy, nothing prepares me for Corey's fate; i thought something cliched will jump in at the last minute to save him and that no way a major character will die in a pokemon game- i'm glad my expectations are betrayed albeit in a gruesome way (he really went splat. poor shelly had to see that). By that time, I fully acknowledged it- this, is the pokemon game that I have been waiting for. A pokemon game that I can enjoy, not just for the pokemon and the intense battle difficulty but also for the gripping story and a surreal-yet-realistic theme that caters to adults.

You will live as a hobo.

- Can't put it any better. Up until 3rd gym, I'm always hovering between being a poor sod and a completely broke bloke. Most of the fund goes for pokeballs and potions, especially when higher tier balls and potions are scarce and your team got whacked up in practically EVERY.SINGLE.BATTLE. lol. It's a real scavenger's life in there.

If at first you don't succeed...

- True to the last word. Personally, type matching isn't the real issue in tough battles; it's the turn placement of your team and how well it counter the enemy's mon. A super effective attack aren't a sure-kill most of the time and switching either gives the enemy a bonus setup chance or the enemy possibly 1/2-shotting your next pitched mon. A good judgment is the key; sometimes it's not necessary to try dealing type weakness attack on the enemy when enduring damage in return/outspeeding the enemy becomes the top priority. Heck in some situations where push comes to shove, you had to sacrifice one of your mons to gain some leverage.

Gym leaders have no souls and receive sustenance from your hatred.

- They're tough, almost like fighting an online tourney- except that the frustration doubles from the fact that you got rekt by 'just an npc'. and then you realized you barely put a dent on half of their roster while you're left standing with one useable pokemon. and revive is locked up in the upper levels of the dept store. cthulhu really smiles on every battle in the game.

This guy.

- Oh yes. I never feel the need of a rival character since I view anyone that's better than me as a hurdle that i should overcome. Fern's existence is a blessing in which i finally, in a pokemon game, get an ARCHNEMESIS CHARACTER WHICH I'M MORE THAN GLAD TO MURDER WITH THE SLOWEST KILLING METHOD POSSIBLE.

In the end, it boils down to YOU.

- Playing a pretty much low-key team myself, I can attest to this. It really came down on how you approach the battle and the game. Heck even simply mashing through the NPC's dialogues will net you losses from skipping crucial infos.

[Dragon116 13]

Hi guys. Imma new face here. First of all, I had to thank Ame, glitchxcity and everybody else involved in... crafting such a fine game. Hats off to timber dragon too for that well-made description (i believe it should be a staple in a reborn's main advertising pamphlet )

I've came a long way with Pokemon; started with red and yellow back in 2000 (studied my ass off, aced the exam before ma bought me one lol) all the way up to BW2 (worked part-time for the DS). Honestly, I feel like what most people do with official Pokemon games; bland, and getting more bland with each new release. The only icing on the cake new versions offer are new mons, new graphics and some minor mini games/overhaul; story plot and battle-wise, it's pretty much the same thing, over, and over, and over. Sure, PvP is a great addition ever since it became mainstream in DP but then again, not everyone is of the competitive sort (i don't) and while it can be fun and all, in the end, that's that; you fight one person and stalk the waiting room (sometimes for hours) for another battle- the core game itself contributes very little to the fun. BW2 only managed to crank the fun up by a mere notch with the introduction of PWT. I do understand that nintendo aimed pokemon games mainly for kids but for them to set aside the grown-up fanbase so they can continue milking on the niche with the same, albeit slightly repurposed tool repeatedly, is almost evil- and enough's enough.

When I heard XY are going to be released for 3DS, I'm like "screw this, it's not worth it anymore for me to fork my cash and get a 3DS". By the time of ORAS, I almost got myself de-pokemon-ized; suggesting myself that pokemon games are things of the past and i have to move on from them since, well, i'm already thinking differently as an adult and the cliched 'story of friendship, bond between pet and master, fighting evil team striving to conquer the world, be the best like no one ever was in the pokemon world' formula barely appeals to me anymore.

....Then some time around Dec 2015, i saw pokemon reborn brought up in a certain game download site i frequent to. I held myself from checking it out till few weeks ago and as much as i had enough with pokemon, i managed to drag myself to the comments sections (mainly out of intrigue since it's for PC). Once i see words like 'very hard', 'adult-oriented story', 'limited roster so you have to use your head when making teams' and 'the best pokemon game there is out there', my curiosity got the best of me and the next sec, there I go, waiting few minutes for the 500mb's to pass.

I had to say the music remixes and the world design (especially reborn city and the wastelands) is done real good. Admittedly, it made me chuckle a little at first seeing the word 'shit' uttered by a pokemon game NPC but as the story goes, thing got more serious and immersive. Reborn city's various society castes, the sheer terror of team meteor, memorable and likeable characters (everytime i saw Cain i'm like "hey there, Cain mah nigga!") and literally happening deaths really impressed me on how such things can blend in so well with pokemon. Battle-wise, I purposely challenged myself to play with low-grind, majorly poison-type team (blastoise, muk, arbok, weezing, skuntank, magnezone); something I've never done in any other games before and boy, add that to how kickass the battles are, it's been a real blast! While I managed to clear most gyms with some ingenuity, some F12s and luck (and toxic :v), Luna got me whooped real good. I used so much F12 till i finally buckled up from the hopelessness of every strategy i came up with and had to backtrack to unlock the powerplant's hidden room just so I can evolve my magneton and have an extra edge over her. Really, battles are a thrill in this game; heck, underestimate roadside trainers at your own cost :v

Currently just arrived at Spinel City.

Back to the story, while that one police dude's death is a tragedy, nothing prepares me for Corey's fate; i thought something cliched will jump in at the last minute to save him and that no way a major character will die in a pokemon game- i'm glad my expectations are betrayed albeit in a gruesome way (he really went splat. poor shelly had to see that). By that time, I fully acknowledged it- this, is the pokemon game that I have been waiting for. A pokemon game that I can enjoy, not just for the pokemon and the intense battle difficulty but also for the gripping story and a surreal-yet-realistic theme that caters to adults.

I like this guy. Has a lot of potential.

Just wait till you get the to the end of E15. See how long you last without wanting to do a second playthrough.

[NoobyMayhem69 0]

Just... lol

[doombotmecha 174]

You face Shelly and you think Bugs eh, this will be fun, out comes Yanmega and Speed Boost RIP Fire and Flying types.

honestly, her anorith is the main doom to a fire/flying type, it just outspeeds and rock slides you to death, or if it doesn't outspeed it uses aqua jet

[FairFamily 197]

honestly, her anorith is the main doom to a fire/flying type, it just outspeeds and rock slides you to death, or if it doesn't outspeed it uses aqua jet

I remember my braixen surviving that entire fight, you just have to use it smartly (set the field ablaze). In fact it was so saddening how easy it made that entire fight.

[RedKessel 0]

Great noticed my Sceptile has more Sp.Atk then Atk i need Leaf Storm or Giga Drain on my Sceptile for it to be good on my team and i got a bad natured noibat on my team need to find some new members for my Reborn team. Right now my Meowstic and my Simisear carry my team.

[BreezyPonie 2]

honestly, her anorith is the main doom to a fire/flying type, it just outspeeds and rock slides you to death, or if it doesn't outspeed it uses aqua jet

Not if your Butterfree puts it to sleep, first

[Scottieboy2020 2]

Serra, I officially hate you.

I feel like I'm curbstomping Cory's ghost by training his team members.

I hate this game for making me feel whenever somebody dies.

I hate the field effects.

...And DEAR GOD FERN SHUT UP!!!

That being said... this game is freaking amazing haha

Also, why can't you seem to fish for Tentacool? I get that the lake is full of deadly poison and that it's full of Grimers and Muks but still... Tentacool is a poison type, it could probably live in those conditions.

[Fumble 52]

Also, why can't you seem to fish for Tentacool? I get that the lake is full of deadly poison and that it's full of Grimers and Muks but still... Tentacool is a poison type, it could probably live in those conditions.

It's really just a matter of how good Tentacruel is. It's very bulky, fast, can deal some nice damage, and has a fairly good movepool, which is why it's always been UU/BL/OU in Smogon's competitive tiers. It is available from the Mystery Egg and may be available in diving areas later, though.