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Salem Coven Chaos - Town Win


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15 minutes ago, Alistair said:

I know little about ToS roles, but the lack of night victims makes me think there aren't too many roles that directly kill. Perhaps a mafia factional kill, and at most another one that may have been unlucky and/or chosen to abstain.

It's also possible that all the roleblocked peepos were killers and/or targets, but that'd be mighty lucky. And that's assuming people who claim to have been roleblocked were indeed roleblocked.

 

The NA results given or implied by several players, notably Astra, Drago and Amine, are interesting though.

 

If I understand correctly we can't directly vote to eliminate someone right? First we have to put them on trial, and then they can be either executed or spared. This double layer makes it a bit more difficult for a lynch to actually go through, which doesn't work in town's favor.

Don't be alarmed I cannot remove this quote in mobile for some reason 

I cam confirm that I was indeed roleblocked

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9 minutes ago, Amine said:

Do you get a message saying that youve been hypnotized?

I don’t think you do. I looked up its role since I am not familiar with it. Seems its purpose is to send out false system messages (such as roleblock, poison, healing, etc.) and you’d get the same result that you’d usually get if you got roleblocked, poisoned or healed (etc.). Though since Nano just made an announcement regarding it, we’ll probably learn about it soon.

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Another Roleblock?, soo let's see amine was pirated, drago was jailed, so there is definetly a pirate, and a jailor (unless one of those was a lie)
Eric and Nicki apparently didn't have anything in addition, so their roleblocks would be from escort/consort
if all the claims are true then we have 1 pirate, 1 jailor and 2 escorts/consorts
as for the hypotist, double checking shows you can't get a roleblock message from a hypnotist, so that can't be the case

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The hypnotist is classified as a mafia deception role, it has the power to send fake system messages

 

look in the spoiler for the messages it can send and any clarification needed

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  • You were transported to another location. 
     
  • Someone occupied your night. You were role blocked! 

(They cannot send: Someone tried to roleblock you but you are immune.)

  • You were attacked but someone fought off your attacker! 
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  • You were attacked but someone nursed you back to health! 
     
  • You feel a mystical power dominating you. You were controlled by a Coven Leader
     
  • You were poisoned. You will die tomorrow! 

(They cannot send: You were poisoned. You will die tomorrow unless healed!)

  • You were attacked but someone protected you! 
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  • You were poisoned but someone nursed you back to health! 
     
  • Someone tried to poison you but someone fought off your attacker! 
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  • You triggered a trap! 
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  • You were attacked but a trap saved you! 
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  • A trap attacked you but someone nursed you back to health!


 

Edit: clarifying that hypnotist is not a unique role, there can be up to 3 at the start of a game

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Just now, Seal said:

So there can be multiple people with the same role? Yikes.

There can be up to 6 people with the same non unique town role

up to 6 people with the same neutral benign role

up to 6 people with the same non unique neutral evil role

up to 6 people with the same non unique neutral killing role

up to 3 people with the same non unique mafia role

 

if clarification on which roles are unique is needed I can do that

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7 minutes ago, Seal said:

So there can be multiple people with the same role? Yikes.

Yes indeed, the linked role list on the wiki, lists out which roles are unique
apparently we already have atleast 2 unique roles in the game
a jailor (town)
& a poisoner (coven)
This is also a correction on my part since i misremebered what the potion masters potions do, i thought one of them can poison, but that was wrong, so the only role that could have poisoned is the poisoner
and we can in fact rule out if that message is faked by the hypnotist or not
@Astra125 what was the exact message you recieved?

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My exact message is "You were poisoned. You will die tomorrow unless healed!" This means my message is not false and that the poisoner is in the game so doc, please heal me. 

So "confirmed" roles: jailor, poisoner, and pirate

Maybe roles: escort,consort and hypnotist

@Nano4 could you list the unique role. I'll too lazy to look them up

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4 minutes ago, Astra125 said:

My exact message is "You were poisoned. You will die tomorrow unless healed!" This means my message is not false and that the poisoner is in the game so doc, please heal me. 

So "confirmed" roles: jailor, poisoner, and pirate

Maybe roles: escort,consort and hypnotist

@Nano4 could you list the unique role. I'll too lazy to look them up

i shouldn't reward lazyness
here i will take nano's work:
Roles that are unique
Town: Jailor, Mayor, Veteran, Retributionist
Mafia: Godfather, Mafioso, Ambusher
Neutral (TP): Pirate, Plaguebearer (& Pestilence), Juggernaut, Werewolf
Coven: All of them

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1 hour ago, Falirion said:

i shouldn't reward lazyness
here i will take nano's work:
Roles that are unique
Town: Jailor, Mayor, Veteran, Retributionist
Mafia: Godfather, Mafioso, Ambusher
Neutral (TP): Pirate, Plaguebearer (& Pestilence), Juggernaut, Werewolf
Coven: All of them

Could someone have more than one Guardian Angel assigned to them?

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I really think we should go for Seal, Eric didnt say anything that seemed suspicious imo. but if Aldo gives a good reason why should vote Seal then im listening

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We should have a trail this phase if nothing else. Since being put on trail doesn't mean they are lynched right away, being hesitant to put people up on trial is more of a detriment to town. We should be more careful with putting people up for trials is when we only have one left but since that isn't the case right now we should try to throw some people up. 

Trail Seal

If nothing else, it can get people to talk. 

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