Wolfox Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 I believe Fire starters are a bit unpopular due to reasons not concerning the type as a whole. Tepig, for example, was received extremely bad because it's a fire fighting starter (I've ranted about disliking emboar just because it's that typing in the past and won't again). Charizard is overhyped by many people which easily leads to annoyance, Blaziken can either be a let-down in design or you hate fighting it. Delphox can be underwhelming compared to the other gen 6 starters and Incineroar... some hate it because it resembles a fighter, some because it's not walking on 4 legs and others (like @Jess) simply dislike the fact that it's edgy while they do accept what it's based on. Typholsion (one I personally kinda dislike) falls a little flat compared to all other fire starters because it's only a single typing and Infernape is by some considered to be a discount Blaziken. Quote
Sayia Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Well I don't like Tepig, and Chimchar family. Not because of typing, but because of design.. Quote
Zarc Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 @walpurgis i have to be agree about milotic , one of the most styled pokemon ever created Quote
Wolfox Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Milotic is the most beautiful, Gardevoir the most Graceful and Primarina is a nice combination of both. not as good as either of them, but good enough Quote
Jess Posted January 17, 2018 Author Posted January 17, 2018 In reality though, Blaziken is a discount Infernape... Infernape has superior design, superior moveset, better stats... Only worse thing is the ability. I understand why Incineroar is Dark type (it's a wrestler, and wrestlers tend to not fight fairly... let's pick up a chair and beat the referee now), but I don't like the repetition. I believe that this is the main reason that Fire starters are the least favoured by the public. Cause we have 4 fighter-oriented Fire types, which gets tiring. I also think that all starters' final evolution should be dual type. Typhlosion is the bloody "Volcano pokemon". Nobody knows why it isn't a Ground/Fire. Also, nobody knows why Meganium isn't a Psychic/Grass. Samurott a Fighting/Water. Quote
Dartu-san Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Jess said: In reality though, Blaziken is a discount Infernape... Infernape has superior design, superior moveset, better stats... Only worse thing is the ability. I understand why Incineroar is Dark type (it's a wrestler, and wrestlers tend to not fight fairly... let's pick up a chair and beat the referee now), but I don't like the repetition. I believe that this is the main reason that Fire starters are the least favoured by the public. Cause we have 4 fighter-oriented Fire types, which gets tiring. I also think that all starters' final evolution should be dual type. Typhlosion is the bloody "Volcano pokemon". Nobody knows why it isn't a Ground/Fire. Also, nobody knows why Meganium isn't a Psychic/Grass. Samurott a Fighting/Water. Hmm GameFreak could answer some of those issues if they made Mega Evolutions for all the starters at some point. A Water/Dragon Feraligatr would also be pretty cool. I see Meganium more as a fairy type and Samurott as Steel though because of some elements in their design. Quote
HAWmaro Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 jsut curious but why would meganium be psychic? i can understand fairy but... Quote
Ojama Yellow Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 I never really saw meganium as anything but a pure grass type. the only things it really gets that shout 'psychic' are the two screens it gets through leveling, magic coat through tutoring, and heal pulse as an egg move. fairy is even worse- it gets straight-up no fairy moves, not even dazzling gleam. Quote
Jess Posted January 17, 2018 Author Posted January 17, 2018 Meganium should be Psychic in my opinion just because of its disposition, Psychic type support moves and Pokedex entries about how its breath revives dead plants, how it's scent soothes aggressiveness, etc. Anyways, it deserves to be Psychic WAY more than Exeggute/Exeggutor. The only Psychic aspect of that thing is that it transforms from eggs into coconuts. Quote
BRS swag Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jess said: Meganium should be Psychic in my opinion just because of its disposition, Psychic type support moves and Pokedex entries about how its breath revives dead plants, how it's scent soothes aggressiveness, etc. Anyways, it deserves to be Psychic WAY more than Exeggute/Exeggutor. The only Psychic aspect of that thing is that it transforms from eggs into coconuts. True, Exeggutor, from my viewpoint, is more of a Grass/Ground type. Quote
Zargerth Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Current standings: Bulbasaur: 26 Cyndaquil: 27 Totodile: 22 Mudkip: 22 Turtwig: 16 Chimchar: 9 Piplup: 23 Snivy: 14 Oshawott: 17 Chespin: 20 Fennekin: 13 Froakie: 12 Rowlet: 19 Litten: 6 Popplio: 22 Edit: figured I'd post them since the topic is one again derailing. Quote
HAWmaro Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 That might be true about exeggutor but I still don't see meganium being anything other than a pure grass type IMO. Quote
CrimsonDragon21 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Wolfox said: Milotic is the most beautiful, Gardevoir the most Graceful and Primarina is a nice combination of both. not as good as either of them, but good enough And then you realise that the 3 Pokemons you raised are actually males, and start wondering why though. Not gonna say they can't be males, but sometimes locked gender works better for specific Pokemons. Quote
CrimsonDragon21 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Let's start giving Cyndaquill a headstart into this game and make the opposition weaker #TeamCyndaquill (and Mudkip) Bulbasaur: 24 Cyndaquil: 28 Totodile: 22 Mudkip: 22 Turtwig: 16 Chimchar: 9 Piplup: 23 Snivy: 14 Oshawott: 17 Chespin: 20 Fennekin: 13 Froakie: 12 Rowlet: 19 Litten: 6 Popplio: 22 Quote
Chickens Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Bibby Maru stop ninjaing Bulbasaur: 24 Cyndaquil: 28 Totodile: 22 Mudkip: 23 Turtwig: 16 Chimchar: 9 Piplup: 21 Snivy: 14 Oshawott: 17 Chespin: 20 Fennekin: 13 Froakie: 12 Rowlet: 19 Litten: 6 Popplio: 22 Quote
Jess Posted January 17, 2018 Author Posted January 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, HAWmaro said: That might be true about exeggutor but I still don't see meganium being anything other than a pure grass type IMO. It's similar to Venusaur design-wise. I never really understood why Venusaur is Poison type as well, since it only learns Poison Powder by level-up, Sludge by breeding and Toxic (no big deal, everything learns it), Venoshock and Sludge Bomb by TM. But anyways, these are just opinions. I still think that Meganium would be way more relevant if it learned Mirror Coat too and was Psychic type. Quote
Dartu-san Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Tch everyone is killing my favorite starters. Must take measures. Bulbasaur: 24 Cyndaquil: 28 Totodile: 22 Mudkip: 23 Turtwig: 16 Chimchar: 10 Piplup: 21 Snivy: 14 Oshawott: 17 Chespin: 20 Fennekin: 13 Froakie: 12 Rowlet: 19 Litten: 6 Popplio: 20 Quote
Wolfox Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, CrimsonDragon21 said: And then you realise that the 3 Pokemons you raised are actually males, and start wondering why though. Not gonna say they can't be males, but sometimes locked gender works better for specific Pokemons. for Gardevoir, it makes 100% sense that it can be male. It's based on a robed mage in RPG's, just like Delphox 2 minutes ago, Dartu-san said: Tch everyone is killing my favorite starters. Must take measures. Bulbasaur: 24 Cyndaquil: 28 Totodile: 22 Mudkip: 23 Turtwig: 16 Chimchar: 10 Piplup: 21 Snivy: 14 Oshawott: 17 Chespin: 20 Fennekin: 13 Froakie: 12 Rowlet: 19 Litten: 6 Popplio: 20 Never once has a Popplio voter hurt Chimchar. you're attacking the wrong one Quote
Dartu-san Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Wolfox said: for Gardevoir, it makes 100% sense that it can be male. It's based on a robed mage in RPG's, just like Delphox Never once has a Popplio voter hurt Chimchar. you're attacking the wrong one I'm sorry I'm not keeping track of specifics I'm just voting against one of the starter lines I feel more meh about xD Quote
CrimsonDragon21 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Wolfox said: for Gardevoir, it makes 100% sense that it can be male. It's based on a robed mage in RPG's, just like Delphox It makes sense for Delphox, but Gardevoir is in my opinion nowhere near a robed Mage in RPG's. But that's just my opinion. Also plus the addition of Mega Gardevoir it doesn't make sense to have a male Gardevoir Edited January 17, 2018 by CrimsonDragon21 Quote
Jess Posted January 17, 2018 Author Posted January 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Wolfox said: for Gardevoir, it makes 100% sense that it can be male. It's based on a robed mage in RPG's, just like Delphox It really doesn't, let's be honest. It's not a robe, it's a white dress. And wearing a green top with cleavage. Quote
FairFamily Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, Wolfox said: for Gardevoir, it makes 100% sense that it can be male. It's based on a robed mage in RPG's, just like Delphox Hence why my delphox is called merlin. For gardevoir though, galade kinda invalidates the argument Quote
Walpurgis Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Gardevoir's dress is just strips of skin that grow in that shape. Also, its japanese name is literally sir knight. Quote
Jess Posted January 17, 2018 Author Posted January 17, 2018 Too much crossdressing for my liking... Quote
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