SilverAngelus Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 Water : 20 Grass : 23 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 20 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 14 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Heal myself Dragon, hurt Wolfox Fairy Quote
Hycrox Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 still salty about ma boi chompers >:[ but Azu is mostly due to how fat it is and how hard it gets to hit, even if there are many good walls for it. Same with Maw. tho my issue with azu is due to it having aqua jet. Toxic is only for whirlpool sets made to wall grass tho. And toge, like all others, is an example, not the reason I dislike the type Quote
Veterans Azeria Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Posted December 24, 2017 Water : 20 Grass : 23 Dragon : 15 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 20 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 12 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Oh boy. My hatred of fairies burns fiercely. Quote
seki108 Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Hurt Dragon, Heal Fairy Dammit Wolfox, why did you bait them? Water : 20 Grass : 23 Dragon : 13 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 20 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 13 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Quote
Veterans Azeria Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Posted December 24, 2017 Water : 20 Grass : 23 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 20 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 11 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Omae wa mou shindeiru. Quote
HUEnd Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Water : 20 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 20 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 11 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Quote
Anstane Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Well, I think it's safe to assume which two-three types are going to be the first to fall at this point. As for me, second verse, same as the first. Water : 20 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 11 Rock : 18 Poison : 18 Psychic : 20 Quote
Wolfox Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Heal fairy. Hurt water Water : 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy : 12 Rock : 18 Poison : 18 Psychic : 20 If they're not the reason you hate the type, then why use them as an example in the first place? And Azu being a bit bulky while having a high attack isn't something I would call "Toxic". When I think of a Toxic mon I think of those annoying as stall mons or the ones who are only good for bulk (nice example are toxapex, chansey, bronzong... there are enough on that list to keep me going for ages), and I hate to be that guy but there are not a lot of pure stall mons that are fairy type. in fact outside of Clef and maybe whimsi I don't see too any true stall mons at all. Quote
Chim Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Why would anyone want to hurt steel? Heal steel. Hurt fairy Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 14 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy: 10 Rock : 18 Poison : 18 Psychic : 20 Quote
J-Awesome_One Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Hurt Steel & Heal Poison Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 20 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 23 Flying : 20 Fairy: 10 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Quote
Corso Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 I can't hurt Fairy because of Gardevoir, but Electric has Ampharos, so... Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 14 Electric : 18 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 24 Flying : 20 Fairy: 10 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Quote
Veterans Azeria Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 15 Electric : 18 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 24 Flying : 20 Fairy: 8 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Fairy as a type is just stupid. Quote
Hycrox Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 16 Electric : 18 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 24 Flying : 20 Fairy: 6 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 what the asshat above said. I simply dislike Fairy as a type, as well as a good portion of Fairy-types. I consider Azu toxic due to it being unfair in a way, as it gets to be bulky, have a great attack stat, priority, and Belly Drum. It's toxic in the way that Linoone, with BD extreme speed, is toxic. Toxic as in unfair, not just boring. And while Azu is not the sole reason I dislike the Fairy type, it is part of it, like Togekiss, and all other mons I've mentioned. Quote
SilverAngelus Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 17 Electric : 18 Steel : 12 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 22 Flying : 20 Fairy: 6 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Heal Dragon, hurt Bug I'll let you slide this time Fairy types. Quote
Alistair Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 17 Electric : 18 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 22 Flying : 20 Fairy: 4 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Go home, fairies. Omae wa mou shindeiru. Quote
Chickens Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 17 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 4 Rock : 18 Poison : 19 Psychic : 20 Quote
EndearingCharacterTrait Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 18 Grass : 24 Dragon : 15 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 18 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 4 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 I would argue Fairy only exists because Dragon was already disgusting If Dragon disappeared I don't think I'd even miss it tbh Quote
Veterans Azeria Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Posted December 24, 2017 Intentionally so. They were from the start designed to be the best type in terms of raw stats and power. Could've just buffed other types like Ice to deal with them better instead of adding a type that shits on Dragon and a fuck ton of other types while having a lack of weaknesses itself. Quote
Wolfox Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 @Azeria either I read the rules wrong or you did. if I'm correct you can only do one hurt and one heal each day, and you can't tell me that in 14 hours 2 days have passed Quote
Veterans Azeria Posted December 24, 2017 Veterans Posted December 24, 2017 Oh, my bad then. Deleting that part~ Quote
EndearingCharacterTrait Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Yeah I get it. It's just...Dragon has the highest average HP, Attack, Special Attack, and Special Defense, and was only resisted by one type before Fairy (which incidentally has the lowest average Defense) Near perfect neutral coverage and the highest attack stats? It just seemed a bit excessive to me, but buffing other types (maybe give Ice a Dragon resistance, don't know if that makes sense though) probably would have also worked Quote
Wolfox Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 16 Grass : 24 Dragon : 15 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 19 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 4 Rock : 18 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Hurt Water (take a wild guess what my least favorite type is guys. I bet you'll never guess). Heal Dark (gave up on keeping fairy alive, so might as well focus on my second favorite type) Quote
St0mpa Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Water: 16 Grass : 24 Dragon : 15 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 19 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 2 Rock : 19 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Kill the damm pixies. Healing up one of my favorite types. Quote
seki108 Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Hurt Dragon, Heal Fairy I was going to pick a different type and leave Fairy to die, but then I decided to have an extra person waste their turn instead. Still aiming for (one of??) the most unbalanced type(s) for 5 generations. Water: 16 Grass : 24 Dragon : 13 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 21 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 19 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 3 Rock : 19 Poison : 20 Psychic : 20 Quote
Anstane Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Same thing as before. Water: 16 Grass : 24 Dragon : 13 Electric : 19 Steel : 13 Fire : 18 Ground : 21 Ice : 22 Fight : 21 Normal : 18 Ghost : 18 Dark : 19 Bug : 22 Flying : 18 Fairy: 3 Rock : 19 Poison : 18 Psychic : 20 Quote
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