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[20:14:49] @Barkus Greatus: 3 cannon shots can be heard int ehs desitnce help, he's broken

But Viri, if you were to harness Magnezone's powers to separate them again would that not mean that said Magnezone, too, will revert back to being a Magneton? Would you sacrifice the mighty lord like that? Also, whose body will Solinirius have? That's very important so I can imagine this. I'd like to think it'll be Lin's. That Hydreigon would have a whole new meaning~

I'm not sure to what extent I want to see Zero as truly being dedicated to Meteor's ideals (no matter whether we're talking Lin's or Solaris' here). We simply don't know enough about him to know what motivated him to join in the first place. I think as far as his position in Meteor goes, he's really more of a case of a grunt being caught in the crossfire (his rank prior to ZEL has never been mentioned, but I don't think he was an Admin all along), so not on the same level as, say, Sirius, in terms of devotion. (Personally, I like to imagine that he's more of an Aster case, someone who joined for the personal gain, someone who comes from a background of having nothing.) (I'll admit I really like Zero. I like the outspoken, stubborn attitude he has, and I'd be lying if it didn't amuse me every time when he gets upset over things not going the way he'd like them to. So maybe I'm biased because I really want him to side with Eve and Lumi.) I think that as far as ZEL's dynamic goes right now, the ultimate decision-maker is Eve. Lumi looks up to her for that, and as stubborn as Zero can be, it's been shown multiple times that he fails at challenging her authority. Right now it would seem to me that they're in a situation where Eve would respect Lumi's opinions if she gave any, but at the same time, Lumi trusts Eve to know what's best for them. It is obvious that Lumi is very uncomfortable with what ZEL do, and I'm sure Eve knows that. But what Lumi would need to do to cause any change in their behavior would be to firmly put her foot down for once. I'd love to see her to that, but I'm not sure how likely that is. I am not so sure that we're going to see ZEL in the next episode. From what it seems, it will take place in Reborn City, and they have no business being there. Meteor isn't currently maintaining any PULSEs there. I'm guessing ZEL are more busy with the ones creating the barricade around Labradorra. While the teaser for E16 said that "the heart of reborn will fall", implying a possible attack, ZEL aren't what I'd call an attack force. I don't think Meteor needs a PULSE for it, so unless they do, there's no business for ZEL to be there.

Hmm... But do you think that Lumi - the person who said that she would rather die than be a burden to her own sister, who constantly apologizes for everything ZEL do, who can't stand seeing the PULSE mons suffering, who comes across as an all-around sweet and gentle person who would never willingly harm anyone - would agree to have the vast majority of humanity eradicated and the whole world recreated, for nothing more than her own comfort? I don't believe that someone who would rather sacrifice herself than to cause her own sister inconvenience, would think that her own happiness is worth more than that of all of humanity. I would sooner see Lumi accept the fate of staying part of ZEL, than to decide that she wants her body back at the cost of so many lives. I do believe that Eve will do what she must to keep them alive, even if it means going along with Lin's plans, and I believe that Eve considers Lumi worth more than anything else in the world (including said world). Because if not, there'd be nothing stopping her from ending their collective lives for the sake of humanity. But she respects Lumi, and by extension, I think she would respect her opinions. Now, I have to admit there's something that makes me believe they would not necessarily stay unhappy with being ZEL, but considering it has to do with their original concept as RP characters, it may have no bearing at all on what Ame envisions them to be like in the game's universe. So as much as I'd like to, I can't use that argument here, even if it definitely influences my interpretation of them :c EDIT: I tend to agree with you on the whole Eve possibly being willing to go along with the "new world" thing for the sake of getting their bodies back. I remember writing a huge wall of text about it some time ago. But the ultimate question is - would it really be worth it? Lin is very clearly portrayed as power-hungry and controlling. Surely someone in ZEL's position would be well aware of that, and by extension of the fact that a new world with Lin in it is not going to be any more peaceful and happy than the current one. I do think that it's possible for Eve not to see this (she's intelligent, but not wise) now, but if we're talking about an Eve that's aware of how dangerous Lin would be even in that new world, then I cannot see her choosing that. EDIT2: Sorry for rambling so much, omg. I just get really excited about this kind of discussion, aaaa.

Hmm, it's interesting to think about what they'd do if they absolutely had to choose one of them (as it's quite clear that Eve and Lumi are decidedly not on Meteor's side at all). From how I interpret Eve, her loyalties lie with nobody but ZEL themselves. She'd try to ensure their survival above all else. As far as ideals go, she would not agree with either Lin or Solaris. Now, I think it's clear that the radicalization of Meteor is Lin's work, and that no matter how questionable Solaris' motives may be, he presents the smaller danger. We know that Solaris and Taka have a clear goal in mind, even though we don't really know the details yet: Cleanse the city so that Reborn can be restored to whatever they think it should be like. After that, Meteor would have lived its purpose. The whole new world nonsense is clearly Lin's idea, from what Sirius implied. So the whole world-destroying scheme is hers. But it's hard for m to believe she doesn't have a supreme motive. Do you think if she succeeds and the world gets recreated, she'll just go "ah, everybody lives happily and in peace now, bye then"? 'Cause I don't think so. I'd wager Eve would much rather side with the weird guy who has a strange sense of duty to his distant ancestors, than with the power-hungry sadist that Lin is implied to be. Solaris needs helpers to reach his goal, and after that he'd have no need for them any more. Lin, through what Laura told us about her, likes having control over people, over their fears especially. Frankly, I don't see any of ZEL siding with her.

Somehow I feel like we're not going to see the death of anyone who didn't die during league times, with the exception of Lin. (And with the exception of characters who were never part of the league.) Not saying they couldn't, but I can't help but think they won't. As for Adrienn vs Lin, it is said that a strong trainer can come out victorious even with a type disadvantage, and I'd assume Lin is a far more powerful trainer than Adrienn. Her trainer text should be a good indicator of what type of character she is. Everything so far builds her up to be very powerful, so even if trainers like Adrienn have an advantage, that alone isn't enough to beat her. (I'd think everyone who has done a monotype can agree that types aren't everything.)

Man, I used to be really into Rise Against when I was younger. Kind of a funny feeling to listen to these songs now, as Black Market is the album I never bought. (Endgame was the last I actually listened to, welp.) What a throwback. I have never really thought about making a playlist based around the game, but there's some... odd songs that remind me of the game because I listened to them a lot during the time I first played it. Like this one. Vaguely remembering defeating the third PULSE Tangrowth and Corey with this in the background. Couldn't tell you what it's about tho, my Latvian knowledge consists of three words. Also, Celldweller's entire Wish Upon A Blackstar album, which is how my shiny Metagross ended up getting its name. I do think the overall sound of the album fits Reborn well, even if it's pure coincidence I associate the two.

...And in a surprising turn of events, Lin does not get defeated by the player or even Arceus itself, but Adrienn.

Oh lord I need this thread again for a moment. Sometimes people are denser than a goddamn brick wall. I knew jumping into that debate would test my patience, but the least people could do is step up their reading comprehension game and not put words into someone else's mouth. Nobody was saying the thing you are complaining about. Nobody. Not a single person. In fact, I actually made a post three hours before yours where I clarified that I was not trying to imply the thing. I spelled it out precisely so that people like you wouldn't jump to assumptions. I'd give you the benefit of doubt under other circumstances, but there's no way you could misunderstand my previous post so hard, unless you didn't even read it. Read it.

I do like the idea for a wiki when it comes to the lore of the game. I think I've said it before on a similar thread, but I can easily see the advantage of being able to look up stuff about characters and locations on a wiki. It can be really helpful to people who may have missed or forgotten about something story-related, and would like to brush up on their knowledge again. I personally am not sure if I'd want to contribute directly by writing any articles, but I'd be more than happy to look over articles and point out any issues I might find. It's no secret that I'm really into analyzing characters, and I believe I could be a help to whoever is looking to write about them. ...Or some of them anyway. I don't have a deep interest in every single character in the game, and have to admit that I'd struggle much more with describing, say, Adrienn or Luna, than any of my faves. tl;dr I can tell you a lot about some characters if you give me prompts, but I don't think I'm good at putting things into wiki article format.

But Oma is a German word for grandma :c I'm not that old!

I've been killed by so many of my Hunger Games lovers and friends, at this point it's really just tradition. ...At least Ice hasn't killed me yet? I think? I like Ice. Odama almost sounds like Oh drama, huehuehue

You can obtain Eevee after getting your 5th badge. It's not far into the game overall, considering the length of it, but it's definitely going to be a while for you still. And yes, it can be evolved into Glaceon. Getting Eevee is a bit tricky if you don't know how, but this thread is very helpful for questions like that http://www.pokemonreborn.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=16407 It has a link to a video guide and everything~

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Welcome to the site! I remember the Eevee struggle from GSC in particular. Lil' buggers always wanted to evolve at the wrong time of the day. Patience, pls. Anyway, hmm, Gold actually IS my favourite of the canon games, so all I can really suggest is finishing it c: Or picking up HeartGold, because that's neat, too! (I did like having my pokémon following me around~)

I like seeing characters in different outfits to be honest Turn 'em into fashion models, give them all the outfits I'll suck it up In fact, where's all the 'characters in hoodies' pics at? [furious scribbling as I put it on my learn-to-draw-it-list] The characters' outfits are all nice and fitting for them, but clothes are just clothes, after all. People may have a clothing style, but at the end of the day, they can try anything. I gotta admit I didn't even notice anything 'off' in Alice's case, whoops!

Excuuuuse meeee The only reason I didn't keep using it past that level is that I am very attached to the non-shiny one (it's my team's ace) and having two of them became a bit inconvenient. My favourite Reborn shiny is the Shellos line, with a slight preference for the West Gastrodon form. And Gigalith. Bless shiny Gigalith.

This, kinda. Many of my 'mons have more or less random names I made up on top of my head, but the further I got into the game, the more of them ended up being named after characters. So I've got meaningless names like Sarkath (Noctowl), Keera (Staraptor) or Arzac (Arcanine) alongside ones like Lumi (Espeon), Sirius (Houndoom) or Eclipse (Absol). ...And I guess there's that Mamoswine named Earth Shaker. In my other runs I do use name themes, though. Astra's Pokémon are all named after stars, and when I did the Psychic Mono as Eve, everything got snow/ice-related names.

Story-wise you "sign up" for the reborn league in the Grand Hall, so Opal Ward would be correct. Obviously, game-wise the card is already present from the start, but canonically this is what makes the most sense.

I was waiting for you to post these here so I could like it once more tbh And also because if I reblog it a couple more times to respond to things my followers are gonna hate me or something, hue. But damn if you haven't hit me right in the feels I knew you were gonna draw the Obsidia Park one, but I was not prepared for the Ametrine pic whyyy not actually complaining But anyway err, I probably fangirled about the ZEL pics enough on tumblr already so I'll use this post to mention that I love how you drew things from Anna's POV. It's a great idea, and it makes me really happy to see Shelly with her "strings" (even if the picture is eerie overall). Also, hey, Nostra and Nomos~ Aya in her gym is cool, too! She's one of my favourites, and really in need of more love <3 Now shush about calling it shit, it's lovely and you know we'll be the last people to tell you to stop c: