Guest Sparkin' Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) Wait, @Dark Rogue, how did you get to the conclusion that the janitor did the killing and not any of the other roles? Do you know something that we don't? Edited November 7, 2017 by Sparkin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Venus I believe it's in reference to what was concluded by everyone so far who has commented based on what Anti has told us that we could assume if the janitor didn't kill someone and the amnesiac died without taking someone's role they would be labelled as 3rd party alignment instead of ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) The choice mafiosi made of using the Janitor's ability on the very first kill seems a bit odd to me though... what do you guys think? For what it's worth I was blocked last night btw, presumably by the Angry Nurse. Edited November 7, 2017 by Alistair added info about me being blocked and removed a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Maybe they wanted to immediately have ability to role claim is questioned? That said im pretty sure the role is stated to be if they were involved with the kill their ability is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Venus said: Wait, @Dark Rogue, how did you get to the conclusion that the janitor did the killing and not any of the other roles? Do you know something that we don't? I assumed that because from what it seems, the only way to get ??? Is by the janitor killing someone, as Anti answered me that when the amnesiac dies, it appears that they were third party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LykosHand Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Oh so Dive is dead :/, i wonder which role he had. Anyway, even to me it sounds weird that the mafia people had used the Janitor's ability so soon. It's only one-time ability, right? Unfortunately i haven't any information to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, Hooligan said: I think I have a possible suspect after reading the dialogues, but no proof yet. I wonder if after saying this, I might get dead in the next day by someone of the mafia, presumably, or not. Well, just by saying that you'll probably end up being targeted, so I think you should share the information you have, as we do not have any useful info to find the mafia yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LykosHand Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Hooligan Do you have some proof that Alistair is mafia? Because i don't want to vote someone so early without evidence :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalAmber Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I can’t do much, but I’ll try to help beat I can. If you wanna guess my role, guess Angry Nurse(I’m usually that type of role) Anyway, lack of info= No Lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviora Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 You guys do realize the Mafia want you to abstain, right? If you do nothing, only they get to make moves, and we lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, Eviora said: You guys do realize the Mafia want you to abstain, right? If you do nothing, only they get to make moves, and we lose. But if we lynch the wrong person (that is the most likely thing to happen) the mafia will have an even better advantage over us. (This is my opinion, as this is the first time I play this type of game, im not experienced enough to say something tbh). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphagar Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 This particular game is hard for me to get my mind around...lol...rolewise. So...just to clarify for me... So...what exactly is it the janitor can do? Also, is every role going to be ??? when they die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Abstaining has literally never brought anything good to the town in all the games I've played. As tempting as it is to vote Hooligan, I don't think he's mafia. To me he sounds like a townie very eager to read between the lines and find a possible maf. The reason I edited my posts is because I misread the roles list and made several mistakes. That's also why I told Drakyle to consider I didn't say anything. I don't have any information other than the one I already gave: I was blocked last night. I apologize if my behavior was misleading. For now: [Eliminate] DigitalAmber because he decided to not lynch, and not lynching benefits the mafia more than it does the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviora Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Alistair What kind of message did you receive to tell you you were blocked? Did it mention a massage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndearingCharacterTrait Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 We don't get to know anything about Divergent because the janitor killed him, but if someone else dies presumably it would be different. And I agree, when we choose not to vote anyone it lessens pressure on the mafiosi. That being said I don't know if I have any reads as of yet...but not everyone has spoken yet either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Eviora Nope, Anti just told me that I was blocked. No details. That said, I do believe the only role that can block others is the Angry Nurse. Anyone, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Stormkirk Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 ok so i was roleblocked also but it turns out that there are 2 people that can roleblock but i also noticed that the quack doctor poisoned someone every night and if not cured they die later @Alistairthere is the icu nurse @Eviora you get a private message telling you this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalAmber Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 As risky as it is to vote and be wrong, it narrows down suspects. Also, @Alistair, I presume no one really noticed, but both Dark Rogue and Venus voted No Lynch. When I see a lead appear I’ll chase after it, albeit in a less sucidal fashion then normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @DigitalAmber I know you aren't the only one, I'm just making a choice. Getting the voting started can sometimes incentivize people to speak up and share what they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greninja Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 So the Janitor used his ability early and Alistair was blocked by either the ICU doctor or the Angry Nurse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Well, the first one that decided not to lynch was Venus, but honestly, I still feel that no lynch is the best option, because if we choose the wrong person (chances are 75%), we'll be at disadvantage. And there is also the chance of lynching someone really important, like the Psychiatrist or the Weak Doctor. Even so, I'll follow your leads if you decide to lynch someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megagun Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Venus has always been a hard read in these games. That said, I do find it funny how several of you state "what an odd choice for the mafia to use the janitor ability this early". To me, there is no better time to use the ability. They not only hide his alignment but also gain the knowledge (I read the rules thoroughly) of what the victims role was. This can give them the ability to roleclaim that later in the game. I suggest the mortician figure out Dives role. As for votes, Digital Amber, you make yourself seem a little scummy, and so has Alistair. For now, I'll wait to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 @Dark Rogue you can also view it that way: if we decide to lynch, we have a 25% chance of killing a maf. If we don't, we have a 0% of killing a maf, whereas the mafia has a high chance of killing one of us every night, and the same voting power as anyone else during the day. If the town wants to fight, the time is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Alistair said: @Dark Rogue you can also view it that way: if we decide to lynch, we have a 25% chance of killing a maf. If we don't, we have a 0% of killing a maf, whereas the mafia has a high chance of killing one of us every night, and the same voting power as anyone else during the day. If the town wants to fight, the time is now. You indeed have a point. So I'll give my opinion about someone that seems suspicious. Venus. As I already mentioned, he was the first to abstain (not that it really matters) and the he tried to find something in what I have said to accuse me. I know that this is what we are supposed to do, but that accusation was all of sudden, and for me, it was a bit strange the way he did it. I'll wait for your opinions to cast my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviora Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Would anyone like to speak up about being poisoned? If you don't, it's ok. You'll just, y'know, die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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