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Hey guys, so I built three sample teams, but I'm stuck on them. Also, the reason I built three teams is because I was going to test them all out and see which one is better for the redemption league (singles, doubles, triples...) So yeah, I really could use your help guys in finishing the teams (we can use legendaries so yeah). Also, let me know out of the three which team is better.

 

This is a list of 'mons I'd like to put on the team: https://pastebin.com/Wr2qzUmq

 

And here are the teams:

Sample Team 1:

Gardevoir
- Psyshock  
- Hyper Voice  
- Thunderbolt  

 

Scizor
- Roost  
- Bullet Punch  
- U-turn  
- Defog  

 

Donphan  
- Stealth Rock  
- Rapid Spin  
- Ice Shard  
- Earthquake  

 

Hydreigon
- Dark Pulse  
- Fire Blast  
- Flash Cannon  
- Draco Meteor  

 

Gyarados  
- Dragon Dance  
- Waterfall  
- Crunch  
- Substitute  

 

Sample Team 2:

Excadrill

- Rapid Spin  
- Rock Slide  
- Iron Head  
- Earthquake  

 

Manectric 
- Switcheroo  
- Hidden Power [Ice]  
- Flamethrower  
- Thunderbolt  

 

Gigalith
- Stealth Rock  
- Wide Guard  
- Rock Slide  
- Explosion  

 

Sample Team 3:

Gigalith  
- Stealth Rock  
- Wide Guard  
- Rock Slide  
- Explosion  

 

Garchomp  
- Fire Blast  
- Rock Slide  
- Dragon Claw  
- Earthquake  

 

Gothitelle  
- Trick Room  
- Psyshock  
- Thunderbolt  
- Taunt  

 

Tsareena  
- Rapid Spin  
- Trop Kick  
- Aromatherapy  
- Synthesis  

 

Araquanid  
- Wide Guard  
- Toxic  
- Leech Life  
- Liquidation  


 


 


 

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1 hour ago, Cool Girl said:

Hey guys, so I built three sample teams, but I'm stuck on them. Also, the reason I built three teams is because I was going to test them all out and see which one is better for the redemption league (singles, doubles, triples...) So yeah, I really could use your help guys in finishing the teams (we can use legendaries so yeah). Also, let me know out of the three which team is better.

 

This is a list of 'mons I'd like to put on the team: https://pastebin.com/Wr2qzUmq

 

And here are the teams:

Sample Team 1:

Gardevoir
- Psyshock  
- Hyper Voice  
- Thunderbolt  

 

Scizor
- Roost  
- Bullet Punch  
- U-turn  
- Defog  

 

Donphan  
- Stealth Rock  
- Rapid Spin  
- Ice Shard  
- Earthquake  

 

Hydreigon
- Dark Pulse  
- Fire Blast  
- Flash Cannon  
- Draco Meteor  

 

Gyarados  
- Dragon Dance  
- Waterfall  
- Crunch  
- Substitute  

 

Sample Team 2:

Excadrill

- Rapid Spin  
- Rock Slide  
- Iron Head  
- Earthquake  

 

Manectric 
- Switcheroo  
- Hidden Power [Ice]  
- Flamethrower  
- Thunderbolt  

 

Gigalith
- Stealth Rock  
- Wide Guard  
- Rock Slide  
- Explosion  

 

Sample Team 3:

Gigalith  
- Stealth Rock  
- Wide Guard  
- Rock Slide  
- Explosion  

 

Garchomp  
- Fire Blast  
- Rock Slide  
- Dragon Claw  
- Earthquake  

 

Gothitelle  
- Trick Room  
- Psyshock  
- Thunderbolt  
- Taunt  

 

Tsareena  
- Rapid Spin  
- Trop Kick  
- Aromatherapy  
- Synthesis  

 

Araquanid  
- Wide Guard  
- Toxic  
- Leech Life  
- Liquidation  


 


 


 

I'm bad at giving criticism on the fly, but I could probably help through a battle. I'm usually on the reborn showdown server. 

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8 hours ago, Cool Girl said:

Hey guys, so I built three sample teams, but I'm stuck on them. Also, the reason I built three teams is because I was going to test them all out and see which one is better for the redemption league (singles, doubles, triples...) So yeah, I really could use your help guys in finishing the teams (we can use legendaries so yeah). Also, let me know out of the three which team is better.

 

This is a list of 'mons I'd like to put on the team: https://pastebin.com/Wr2qzUmq

 

And here are the teams:

Sample Team 1:

Gardevoir
- Psyshock  
- Hyper Voice  
- Thunderbolt  

 

Scizor
- Roost  
- Bullet Punch  
- U-turn  
- Defog  

 

Donphan  
- Stealth Rock  
- Rapid Spin  
- Ice Shard  
- Earthquake  

 

Hydreigon
- Dark Pulse  
- Fire Blast  
- Flash Cannon  
- Draco Meteor  

 

Gyarados  
- Dragon Dance  
- Waterfall  
- Crunch  
- Substitute  

 

Sample Team 2:

Excadrill

- Rapid Spin  
- Rock Slide  
- Iron Head  
- Earthquake  

 

Manectric 
- Switcheroo  
- Hidden Power [Ice]  
- Flamethrower  
- Thunderbolt  

 

Gigalith
- Stealth Rock  
- Wide Guard  
- Rock Slide  
- Explosion  

 

Sample Team 3:

Gigalith  
- Stealth Rock  
- Wide Guard  
- Rock Slide  
- Explosion  

 

Garchomp  
- Fire Blast  
- Rock Slide  
- Dragon Claw  
- Earthquake  

 

Gothitelle  
- Trick Room  
- Psyshock  
- Thunderbolt  
- Taunt  

 

Tsareena  
- Rapid Spin  
- Trop Kick  
- Aromatherapy  
- Synthesis  

 

Araquanid  
- Wide Guard  
- Toxic  
- Leech Life  
- Liquidation  


 


 


 

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For the last move on Gardevoir you need Focus Miss. Yes I know, I hate having to run, but it's the only Fighting coverage it gets, sadly :( but with that you'd have a good Mega Gardevoir on team one, stopping mage Gyarados from dupe typing Hydreigon. Lastly a Fire type llike RK9 or something would probably complete that team :)

 

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11 hours ago, Cool Girl said:

Hey guys, so I built three sample teams, but I'm stuck on them. Also, the reason I built three teams is because I was going to test them all out and see which one is better for the redemption league (singles, doubles, triples...) So yeah, I really could use your help guys in finishing the teams (we can use legendaries so yeah). Also, let me know out of the three which team is better.

 

This is a list of 'mons I'd like to put on the team: https://pastebin.com/Wr2qzUmq

 

And here are the teams:

Sample Team 1:

Gardevoir
- Psyshock  
- Hyper Voice  
- Thunderbolt  

 

Scizor
- Roost  
- Bullet Punch  
- U-turn  
- Defog  

 

Donphan  
- Stealth Rock  
- Rapid Spin  
- Ice Shard  
- Earthquake  

 

Hydreigon
- Dark Pulse  
- Fire Blast  
- Flash Cannon  
- Draco Meteor  

 

Gyarados  
- Dragon Dance  
- Waterfall  
- Crunch  
- Substitute  

 

Sample Team 2:

Excadrill

- Rapid Spin  
- Rock Slide  
- Iron Head  
- Earthquake  

 

Manectric 
- Switcheroo  
- Hidden Power [Ice]  
- Flamethrower  
- Thunderbolt  

 

Gigalith
- Stealth Rock  
- Wide Guard  
- Rock Slide  
- Explosion  

 

Sample Team 3:

Gigalith  
- Stealth Rock  
- Wide Guard  
- Rock Slide  
- Explosion  

 

Garchomp  
- Fire Blast  
- Rock Slide  
- Dragon Claw  
- Earthquake  

 

Gothitelle  
- Trick Room  
- Psyshock  
- Thunderbolt  
- Taunt  

 

Tsareena  
- Rapid Spin  
- Trop Kick  
- Aromatherapy  
- Synthesis  

 

Araquanid  
- Wide Guard  
- Toxic  
- Leech Life  
- Liquidation  


 


 


 

1st team struggles to to kill steel types outside of donphan and fire blast on hydreigon. And as wolfox said focus miss is kinda needed on garde. For last slot I would add a fast fire or fighting type like salazzle, infernape and cobalion/virizion.

2nd team/core has an obvious ground and fighting weakness. Any flying type or levitating mon would fit in perfectly. Vikavolt in particular can help break bulky water and can power up normal manectric with discharge. although i dunno how you'll feel about 2 electric types. Other notable additions would be some grass types to give a resistance to eq spam like sceptile, serperior or whimsicott.

Last team doesn't need 2 wide guard users. I would swap wg on gigalith with eq. Also the team doesn't have good ice resistance so something like azu or snorlax that can work in tr too are good choices. But in general I would go for a steel type.

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It's about 50% done, but I can't decide on some moves.

(I've underlined moves I'm more inclined towards)

 

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Blastoise 
- Aura Sphere  
- Scald  
- Rapid Spin
- Water Spout / Dragon Tail / Aqua Jet / Fake Out / Ice Beam 

 

Shedinja  
- Toxic 
- Struggle Bug /X-Scissor
- Shadow Sneak  
- Protect / Endure / Baton Pass  

 

Gardevoir  
- Charge Beam  
- Protect / Heal Bell / Destiny Bond / Energy Ball / Healing Wish
- Moonblast / Hyper Voice 
- Psychic / Psyshock 

 

Latias  
- Draco Meteor / Dragon Pulse  
- Wish / Recover  
- Energy Ball / Psychic / Psyshock/ Ice Beam / Calm Mind
- Healing Wish / Heal Pulse / Protect

 

Aerodactyl  
- Sky Drop  
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge 
- Stealth Rock / Hone Claws  
- Iron Head  

 

Zoroark  
- U-turn  
- Night Daze / Dark Pulse / Knock Off / Sucker Punch
- Flamethrower / Sludge Bomb
- Nasty Plot / Swords Dance  
 

Set explanations and thoughts:

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  • Blastoise: Water Spout hits harder than Scald if over 55% HP, Dragon Tail allows to take advantage of Stealth Rock, Fake Out and Aqua Jet give priority and safe mega evolution, Ice Beam for coverage;
  • Shedinja: Struggle Bug avoids contact and cripples special attackers, Endure allows to run Weakness Policy, while Baton Pass provides slow switch;
  • Gardevoir: Hyper Voice hits harder than Moonblast but gets shut down by Wide Guard, Charge Beam provides coverage and boost; I can't decide if I should run a support move or another coverage;
  • Latias: the idea is to run a cleric set, however I don't know if I should also run coverage;
  • Aerodactyl: nothing much to say, Rock Slide flinches but gets countered by Wide Guard, but Stone Edge has much more power; Stealth Rock takes advantages of swaps caused by Shedinja, and I'm not sure if Aerodactyl is bulky enough to set up;
  • Zoroark: it should work in tandem with Shedinja, but I'm not sure if I need a physical, a special or a mixed set; U-Turn should be useful in any case; as for the Dark-type moves, each of them has its advantage over the others; since I miss consistent coverage against Steel and Fairy, I thought Zoroark could help with that; in any case, disguising as Shedinja may grant me a turn to set up.

On a side note, I've never tried this team and I've never played online (but you have to start from somewhere, haven't you?)

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@Wolfox and @pyrromanis Ok, I will try and make the changes. Question: so you guys say I should go with the first team sample for redemption league? Or which one should I pick in your opinion?

 

EDIT: Based on people's feedback, I have decided to go with the first team sample. Also, thank you for the help. I really appreciate it! :D

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 want to stick with mono water and a rain team, but otherwise 

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Swampert(Mega)

Damp

Brick break

Waterfall

E-quake

Ice punch

 

Peliper

Drizzle

U turn

Hurricane

Wide guard 

Mist

 

Ludicolo

Rain dish

Leech seed

Giga drain

Ice beam

Scald

 

Seismatoad

Swift Swim

Stealth rock

Earth power

Scald

Sludge wave 

 

Rotom Wash

Levitate

Thunder

Rain dance

Pain Split 

Hydro pump

 

Kingdra

Swift Swim

Dragon pulse

Hydro pump

Flash Cannon

Scald

 

Feel free to give suggestions as grass/flying/ice dominates this team. 

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@DigitalAmber, I'd do the following tweaks:

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- Use Stealth Rock instead of Brick Break on Swampert, as it's very situational and it's not that worthy, especially because Ground/Water STABs + Ice Punch gets nearly (if not) perfect coverage;

 

- Swap Mist for Scald and Wide Guard for Roost on Pelipper, as it'll appreciate the boost from the rain to deal some decent damage (for a supportive mon). You could use Defog over Wide Guard or U-Turn too, as it'll prevent you from getting chip damage every switch;

 

- Surf or Hydro Pump instead of Scald on Ludicolo would make him a better wallbreaker;

 

- Remove Seismitoad for Azumarill, as Sap Sipper would be a great tool to prevent a Serperior/Grass-type sweeper to clear your team;

 

- Use Draco Meteor instead of Dragon Pulse and Focus Energy over Scald on Kingdra, as Draco Meteor has a way bigger damage output and Focus Energy would allow you net some critical hits and ignore your Sp.Atk drops.

 

Also, you could consider adding more physical attackers on your team building a physical Kingdra set or maybe other pokemon

 

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@DigitalAmber Outside of HUEnd's suggestions which I agree with most (outside of stealth rock on pert if you keep toad) I would recommend swap Rotom-w for Araquanid. Araquanid gives you another physical attacker that the team lacks, gives you Wide Guard freeing a moveslot on Peliper, a slow mon that can work under Trick Room that your team hates to face and an immunity to will o wisp that Swampert hates

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After some more thinking, V3 of my team:

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Blastoise

Aura Sphere

Scald

Rapid Spin

Water Spout

 

Shedinja

Toxic

Struggle Bug

Shadow Sneak

Endure

 

Gardevoir

Hyper Voice

Charge Beam

Psychic

Destiny Bond

 

Latias

Draco Meteor

Wish

Protect

Energy Ball

 

Aerodactyl

Sky Drop

Rock Slide

Stealth Rock

Iron Head

 

Zoroark

Sucker Punch

Knock Off

Flamethrower

Sludge Bomb

 

 

I still have some doubts though:

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  • I don't know if I should replace Struggle Bug with X-Scissor, which has much more power, but then I could get hit by unexpected Rocky Helmets. Besides, Struggle Bug drops the opponent's Special Attack, and that may allow a safer switch.
  • I'm worried about Poison-types, since my only counter Gardevoir is weak to them: walls like Alolan Muk are especially threatening. The best solution would be Earthquake, but only Blastoise, Latias and Aerodactyl can learn it: Latias shouldn't be a physical attacker, while Blastoise would lose either wallbreaking power (Water Spout), coverage (Aura Sphere) or utility (Scald and Rapid Spin). That leaves me with Aerodactyl: Iron Head is a good answer for Fairy-types and has flinch chance, while Stealth Rock provides chip damage over time, which is important since I have Shedinja and Zoroark and they may force sveral swaps (it also breakes Focus Sashes), but Aerodactyl could prove to be too frail to set it safely.
  • I still need to decide between Rock Slide and Stone Edge for Aerodactyl.

I'd really like to know your opinion.

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Since i decided to restart, help is heavily appreciated tbh

 



Nidoking  
- Sludge Wave  
- Earth Power  
- Flamethrower  
- Ice Beam

 

Hydreigon   
- Dark Pulse  
- Draco Meteor  
- Flash Cannon  
- U-turn  

 

Aegislash    
- Flash Cannon  
- Shadow Ball  
- Shadow Sneak  
- King's Shield

 

Tsareena   
- U-turn  
- Trop Kick  
- Play Rough  
- High Jump Kick  

 

Azumarill   
- Aqua Jet  
- Play Rough  
- Waterfall  
- Ice Punch

 

Excadrill  
- Rock Slide  
- Earthquake  
- Rapid Spin  
- Iron Head  

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I'm going to restart again, so this time I'd like some opinions before going in:

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Ninetales-A:

 - Aurora Veil

 - Nasty Plot

 - Blizzard

 - Moonblast

 

Aegislash:

 - King's Shield

 - Wide Guard

 - Iron Head

 - Shadow Ball

 

Garchomp:

 - Swords Dance

 - Earthquake

 - Dargon Claw

 - Rock Slide

 

M-Venusaur:

 - Synthesis

 - Knock Off

 - Giga Drain

 - Sludge Bomb

 

Rotom-W:

 - Defog

 - Toxic

 - Hydro Pump

 - Discharge

 

Infernape:

 - Fake Out

 - Stealth Rock

 - Close Combat

 - Heat Wave

 

I've considered swapping Synthesis on Venusaur by Leech Seed (because the recover is cut in half by Hail) or Knock Off by Toxic (so that Rotom can have Pain Split), what do you think?

 

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I need help with my team...I'm not sure if its any good or ready for the league yet.

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Mawile
Play Rough
Sucker Punch
Thunder Punch
Fire Fang
Metagross
Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Garchomp
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance
Raikou
Thunderbolt
Calm Mind
Hidden Power (Ice)
Shadow Ball
Excadrill
Earthquake 
Toxic
Rapid Spin 
Rock Slide
Infernape
Thunder Punch
Power Up Punch
Mach Punch
Fire Punch

 

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Imma go to this with this team
 

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Aegislash
-Swords Dance
-King's shield
-Shadow Claw
-Iron Head

Primarina
-Hyper Voice
-Energy Ball
-Ice Beam
-Psychic

Hydreigon
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Dark Pulse
-Roost

Gliscor
-Taunt
-Earthquake
-Toxic
-Roost

Manectric
-Volt Switch
-Flamethrower
-Hidden Power Ice
-Thunderbolt

Donphan
-Rapid Spin
-Knock Off
-Earthquake
-Toxic

 

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Hi all,

 

I'm looking at having a go at this as it looks like a really fun idea, but having never done anything like it could do with some advice on my proposed team. 

 

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Latias  
- Defog  
- Recover  
- Draco Meteor  
- Psyshock  

 

Mamoswine  
- Stealth Rock  
- Earthquake  
- Ice Shard  
- Icicle Crash  

 

Volcarona  
- Quiver Dance  
- Substitute  
- Bug Buzz  
- Heat Wave  

 

Clawitzer  
- Muddy Water  
- Sludge Wave  
- Dark Pulse  
- U-turn  

 

Manectric  
- Volt Switch  
- Discharge  
- Flamethrower  
- Hidden Power [Grass]  

 

Lucario
- Swords Dance  
- Close Combat  
- Meteor Mash  
- Earthquake

 

 

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!

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I'd suggest something like Primarina > Clawitzer due to better typing synergy with your team. A set such as Scald/Moonblast/Psychic/Ice Beam is fantastic at wallbreaking for you. If not Primarina, Azumarill does much the same thing, on top of adding priority in a strong Aqua Jet to your team

 

I'd also suggest Extremespeed > Earthquake on Lucario, Earthquake doesn't really give it any additional coverage.

 

Maybe another Fire type over Volcarona? You've got a good set up sweeper in Lucario already, and Volcarona is something that's better to support fully. If you want to keep it, I'd honestly suggest getting Giga Drain just so you can heal/deal with rock and water types better.

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@Azeria Thanks for the feedback, I've added E speed to Luke, and swapped Clawitzer for Azumarill and Volcarona for Rotom-H with the sets below, as that gives me some better defensive typings as well as some more priority and ultility in knock off and toxic.

 

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Latias
- Defog  
- Recover  
- Draco Meteor  
- Psyshock  

 

Mamoswine
- Stealth Rock  
- Earthquake  
- Ice Shard  
- Icicle Crash  

 

Manectric
- Volt Switch  
- Thunderbolt  
- Flamethrower  
- Hidden Power [Grass]  

 

Lucario  
- Swords Dance  
- Close Combat  
- Meteor Mash  
- Extreme Speed  

 

Rotom-Heat
- Volt Switch  
- Overheat  
- Dark Pulse  
- Toxic  

 

Azumarill
- Aqua Jet  
- Play Rough  
- Knock Off  
- Belly Drum  

 

 

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Hmm, my thought behind it was the additional ground switch in which with arcanine my team would have 3 weaknesses to and only Lati as a resist. Plus it can also volt switch to provide some momentum with mega mane.

 

I'm going to keep working on the team and hopefully be ready to start next weekend.

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Dark Pulse on Rotom-H isn't that good of an option. A more supportive move like Trick, Will-O-Wisp/Thunder Wave for double status, Light Screen/Reflect or Electroeb for speed control are all good choices. There's also the choice of a more offensive move like Fould Play, Thunderbolt/Discharge or HP Grass for those pesky Water/Grounds that wall Rotom.

Other Fire Pokemon you can use over Rotom-H are:
-Molters with Huricane, Heat Wave, U-Turn, Roost/Tailwind
-Incineroar with Flare Blitz, Darkest Lariat, U-Turn, Fake Out
-Infernape with Flare Blitz, Close Combat, U-Turn, Fake Out
-Darmanitan with Flare Blitz, Earthquake, Rock Slide, U-Turn
-Talonflame with Flare Blitz, Acrobatics/Brave Bird, Will-O-Wisp/Swords Dance, Roost/Tailwind

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Mamoswine  
Ability: Thick Fat  
- Earthquake  
- Icicle Crash  
- Ice Shard  

Indecisive on Rocks/Filler

Gyarados  
Ability: Intimidate  
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Adamant Nature  
- Dragon Dance  
- Crunch  
- Waterfall  
- Earthquake  

Nice n' Gyara, Helps nicely with a few leaders but idk what to put Sub over. If Crunch, I need a Ferro check and if EQ, a Ches Check (for this team at least)

 
Scizor  
Ability: Swarm  
- Bullet Punch  
- Swords Dance  
- U-turn  
- Roost

Could use something for Ice, so went with good ol' Sciz
Rotom-Heat  
Ability: Levitate    
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Defog  
- Volt Switch  
- Overheat  
- Will-O-Wisp

FOR THE JEWS, but also defog support (could switch this also for another defogger ngl but it came up first) (My other fire type idea was chandy though)

That's all I came up with so far before hitting a wall


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