Timber Dragon

Gale wings more like Fail Wings now right?

tbh even old Talonflame would probably be fine at this point, though I'm guessing he won't even be that late in E17.

Talonflame never should've been this late, even before Gale Wings got nerfed. It's strong as heck after it gets any moves but before that it is absolute garbage.

I guess anywhere post-samson would've been fine for old talonflame.

Oh, and Oricorio. It probably won't last for THAT long in Reborn, but I still want one...

Oh oh, and Toucannon, too. Because it's literally an angry toucan that burns you with its beak.

Gen VII has some great pokes.

Imagine a full birb team with no flying types.

Owl the Bowtie would be happy

Sounds interesting. Trubbish, Klink and Vanillite would be some good ones from the start of the game, and if you wanted something strong as an "Ace" to start with that could be a good excuse to use honedge.

Happy Birthday by the way!

Thanks! I'm totally down for using Vanilluxe. It's one of the prime examples people go to as proof that Game Freak is running out of design ideas, but it's an awesome Ice-type. I might not use Honedge for this run, actually. I'm already using one (illegally) for my Ghost monotype, and I think people actually like Honedge -- there are worse objects to look like than swords.

I'm just determined to make Garbodor a competent battler.

o.o

Oh. So it does. That's good, at least one member of the team isn't afraid of the water! Thanks.

Well, poodles are made for swimming

Smeargle can get Surf as well, of course

spooky jellyfish are the best kind of jellyfish < 3

you need some sort of site to store and share it. Best bet is just uploading it to youtube, there's an opton to hide it from random searches if you don't want it public, and then linking it to a post

I remember he once gave the one and once the other. seeing the tendency to nerf, its probably claw now.

Shadow ball ep 9, shadow claw ep 15

Yeah, he gives Shadow Claw now.

Should you revise it or simply come out with a version 2.0 and let the old one be archived in its original glory?

Hmm, good question. I thought that I was just gonna revise it, but maybe I'll just make it a separate thread so there'd be some fresh discussion.

It's no longer pinned because we were accruing an overabundance of pinned threads.

Yeah, I'd love to use Garbodor in Reborn if we had access to TMs that better complimented its stats. Otherwise it really is just an adorable giant trash teddy bear.

celestinine and citrine mt

Celestine, not Ametrine? And do you need to surf or can it be found on the surface?

You need Surf iirc

Depends on what you choose in Blake's apartment

Choose? You mean there were choices? I thought it was just the puzzle that I had to do, and I solved it the same way I did in my last run.

you're thinking of roost.

Fak. Okay, gotta plan this out. Psychic and Rock is a very weird combination to counter...

there is an item that grounds flying pokes but i think they still have the same weaknesses + theyre able to be hit by eq :[

Just introduce them to the internet, they'll be triggered by something eventually.

(How did I know someone would make that joke?)

Try level 51.

Well, you can always destroy it~

Flash Cannon Magneton

*evil laughing*

In my bird-themed run I have neither of those things. My best bet is praying for Blaziken's attacks to not miss.

>Shuckle

>>Bird themed

shuckle is best birb

But honestly, if I'm only able to win through the Perish Song thing or miraculous RNG, then it defeats the purpose of bragging rights. Oh well, one more try and then I take Dragon Rushes to the face like a winner.

...

Okay, so after focusing on buffing myself instead of debuffing Garchomp, I just got Aromatisse to Moonblast it a lot while Garchomp kept trying to Earthquake a mon floating on an Air Balloon. Victory is fairy-scented.

Weirder things to realize a bit too late, I'd imagine.

Yeeeeeeeeeeea... oh boyo...Not fun. Not fuuuun LOL

rip birbos

My only idea so far is to level my Swablu to an appropriate level (so... pretty much an Altaria), Mist Field the factory, and hope things become less painful. Otherwise it will be rip birbos.

I checked the Grand Hall, there aren't any trainers until after Corey. It doesn't matter anyway, I already beat him.

In E16 they'll be available from the beginning

SWEEEEET

Blaziken is based off of a chicken, which is a type of fowl, so it's fair game IMO. Not sure about Porygon-Z, though.

I thought the Porygon line was pretty bird-like. Even Bulbapedia describes it as looking like a bird, so I consider it fair game too.

yeaaaa, she does a thing.....have fun, I know I did ;_;

are we talking about HW?