Ikaru

I'm not sure if many people caught the edit here but that's a thing and I think this is still a thing?

they didn't much at all unless I just suck with him now; but the new passive is cool, if a little disappointing that only his Q is reduced on auto attacks. @ Jelly, I read a bit of that thread aside from the linked post and I agree that it's kind of implied on a couple champions as is; and I don't mean the forced Ezreal/Taric thing- more like Diana/Leona and the theory some people came up with when IronStylus elaborated on their history/relationship. But I'm pretty indifferent on the subject in general so long as it's not a painfully obvious and potentially inaccurate stereotype

Moved to the parent trainer's school forum; the research center is exclusively for movedex sets, not a rock-paper-scissors discussion between two people. And even then there's already an existing topic for Infernape there, just like there was for Goodra. Please do try to look for pre-existing topics before making a new one, thanks.

mostly true mostly true Isn't the Lapis Abandoned Gym Shelly's though? I mean it's technically abandoned because she's up in Calcenon with Saphira n' them... unless there was a Bus Crash and she got GG'd behind the scenes the map was drawn a very long time ago and should not be treated as the end-all be-all for reference and in the next episode rainbows will form over all the land and sprinkle fairy dust on us so we can fly to neverland and live happily ever after I don't know Ame's plans any better than anyone else here but some of these theories are kind of a stretch... As far as I remember Heather is under Blake's care, and as for the second thing the elite four have been all but confirmed by now- they all have their own agendas, so to speak, so it's hard to say for sure.

...is what I would say if Inuki was 21 but he's only 20 hahaha nothing of value loser But I mean I guess you're not a teenager anymore- and you know, despite my being a little under two years older, [sivHD voice]you're already starting to get your shit together.[/sivHD voice] And with something you really enjoy, no less. You're making a lot of positive changes (or, well, have made) from what I've read of your most recent updates to your tumblr true self stuff and I think that's great. I know we never really talk seriously (all the stuff with Wolfie aside, I don't think we've really had to, though), so this is something I've wanted to say for a while but never found the right way to (and I made a mental note to do so a long time ago that I'll screenshot or something to show you dates)- but for all the nothing I can actually get you for your birthday, for all the times you compare yourself to me (with varying levels of (in)accuracy), and at the risk of ruining my "cool older brother" image, I really am proud of you. Give yourself more credit; I honestly think you're better off than I am at this point. Happy birthday.

okay i still really like that picture but don't encourage him ;_;

look at this qt

there's extreme cases like that of course, but throws happen unrelated (but related): [3:40:50 AM] Michael McGlynn: seen here in this completely unedited screenshot wes is indeed the best [3:40:52 AM] Michael McGlynn: look at these wins

Well, 15 people have voted as of this post, so that's at least three teams if 5v5; that'd be short but I mean it can work Also my "maybe" vote is mostly "yes with a bit of 'I hope my laptop doesn't ruin it for me'" Also also I really hope there's less salt than there tends to be with Reborn inhouses ._.

you didn't mention dota once in this post i'm proud of you but yeah that thing Doj posted is basically what I'd be doing, ideally, if I had any form of dedication- pick one champion for each role and be so good at them that I can disregard matchups and all that nonsense and win anyway just through sheer mastery of the champion. Something like... Top- Irelia Mid- Syndra ADC- Quinn (although I was looking at Ezreal recently but Quinn muh bb) Support- this one is hard because my favorite is Sona but she's not really... "master-able" so to speak. Ult good. Power Chord good. das it. Second would probably be Nami Jungle- man idek I'm so bad at jungle if I had to pick any given one I've done least bad with Vi I don't jungle much so that's probably the hardest one to judge but yeah those things ok bye Also how necessary were those last few posts, guys? >>

I'm not sure how these things contribute and couldn't be said elsewhere?

This is no longer about whether or not they're counterable or banworthy, and on that note, any further posts in that vein will be deleted. This has gone well so far, please don't derail it now. I added an "Other" option to both so people can pick that and explain; if anyone wants to change their vote to that, they can, but if you do so, or any future votes are chosen, please elaborate or it'll probably be disregarded.

Given the poll results are in favor of banning both I've updated it with the options Swim listed previously For reference: EDIT: actually, maybe we should include something about Swagger and Foul Play (and, maybe pushing it, Prankster as well) together? That seems to be one of the bigger things

this is how it should be and I guess she misinterpreted my meaning when I showed it to her

While I agree with the above post it's undeniable there's a lot of unsavory people in the LoL community; however, as suggested, you guys can leave that alone now especially because this is a LoL chat thread and not a comparison thread (especially when past experience shows those sorts of comparisons never end well) thanks <3

It wasn't hijacked so much as they were put together because there were like three other topics about the same thing

Such is a metagame, m'boy. also if you've ever played Maplestory you know constant buffing leads to power creep which is bad. like maplestory.

you might have seen my tumblr post but that song is the only thing I know of from that entire series lol also: HYPE

1) Seen here (thanks Roo), it becomes more than a simple coin flip after one turn and can very well be played with to make it last several turns without getting hit in return (and even if you do, the initial turn is, again, completely luck-based), i.e. Substitute and Thunder Wave. Assuming, because the chance gets higher and higher that eventually you will hit yourself at least once, you do lose a turn, their free sub is up and then you either get Thunder Wave'd (depending on the set used) further hampering your ability to fight back, or hammered with your own +2 attack using Foul Play. The only way this could be any more subjectively infuriating is if Klefki had anything more than Leftovers to heal itself with. It's mindless and if anyone decided they wanted to use it wouldn't be hard to. THAT is the argument behind banning it, as far as I can tell, and it's the reason I suggested banning more than just Swagger alone, as by itself it's not too overwhelming. 2) I think I went over most of that already so, 3) Basically what I said with the other post- we can probably limit it somehow without outright banning one thing entirely Your point is noted, but none of those are nearly as likely to occur as Confusion is. Paralysis, while it doesn't wear off, is only a 25% chance each turn, and there are a considerable number of options to avoid it (Electric types are completely immune; most Ground types are as well; Limber is a thing in the same vein as Own Tempo if anyone wants to use that argument) as compared to Confusion having Own Tempo and... switching. Sleep moves sans Spore are generally inaccurate and if one thing is asleep nothing else can be put to sleep as well- unless you're not using Sleep clause, but that's neither here nor there. No move has any higher than a 10% chance to freeze something (excluding Secret Power for obvious reasons). Crits were nerfed this gen as it is, and, without a set dedicated to it, are only a 6.25% chance which is less likely than anything mentioned here. Even then, the only Pokemon that can reasonably dedicate itself to 100% crit is Kingdra and you're not going to sweep a team with 85 speed. EDIT: and in the time I took to write this there's been like four new replies so if anything was already addressed don't mind me EDIT2: after reading the replies I realise there would basically be no use for Swagger if we removed the combinations that make it into abuse cases, so with that said maybe we can just get rid of it altogether after all, idk

I also like Katarina for the same reason I mentioned above, sorry >> << Anyway, because this is Melee 2 Smash 4 and not Fire Emblem I have a general concern- the fact that it's on two different platforms (Wii U and 3DS) is a bit troubling to me because, despite the fact that hey I can get it on the 3DS and not buy a Wii U, obviously there's going to be differences between them; considering Nintendo is seemingly appealing to the competitive community with some of the things they've shown off, will the 3DS version be too much less competitive than the Wii U version? And I forget, was there anything said about connectivity between the two? Honestly I'm more interested in Bravely Default and Persona Q at the moment, but that would probably influence the decision