The thing about Kyurem-B is its lack of STAB on the Ice side and with the advent of fairies its Dragon STAB means less now. It lost more than it gained and it was OU last gen. Still just as weak to all the same priority (and stealth rocks for that matter) it was before and it lacks many coverage moves unless you run it mixed. It does have that sheer power you mentioned, but that's about it.
I'm not sure "coverage" is the word you're looking for here since its only real non-STAB options are like 70 base power, and if you're using Baton Pass you probably have no more than two attacks anyway.
pls take seriously
To be fair I'm not sure anyone uses half those sets, although they are there, so that's acceptable. But at the same time, that's the issue- it has so many things it can run that you're not really sure what counters it until it may or may not be too late. A lot of those listed counters (while I don't outright disagree with them) are weak to moves that it can use. Last I recall, Dragonite was the same in that you don't have any defined counters until you know what set it's running. Obviously Dragonite is less extreme, but how do you account for that?
Please be more detailed. This is a discussion, not a "I disagree with you but I'm not going to explain myself" thread
To you (and wolf actually), tiers aren't for promoting originality; the primary effect is preventing overcentralisation. If originality comes with it, great, but that's not what we're looking for.
"Rayquaza is easily killed by a strong Ice attack and cause there are a lot of those it isn't really a big threat"
Sorry for the attitude and all but I really can't stand the "x beats y, so y is invalid" argument and I've seen it several times in the last 24 hours.
That tone could be worked on... It IS a discussion after all and although we agree he could be more detailed, I think you could have left it at that. And in his defense there were a lot of things we didn't ban in Gen 5, but you have a point.
Banning a regular Pokemon and letting the Mega stay OU is impossible. You have to have the normal one to use the Mega form and there's no way to enforce that.
@ original post- I guess we changed our mind about Yveltal? And as a reminder to everyone else-