Salem Reborn

[Nano4]

as the discussion continues Al steps forward and pulls something from their pocket

 

IT IS THE DEED TO THE TOWN

 

ALPHAGAR HAS REVEALED AS THEY MAYOR

 

AS A REVEALED MAYOR THEIR VOTES COUNT AS 3 AND THEY CAN NOT WHISPER OR BE WHISPERED TO

 

BOK IS NOW ON TRIAL, VOTING STARTS AFTER THEY MAKE A DEFENSE POST

 

VOTES ARE [GUILTY], [ABSTAIN], OR [INNOCENT]

[Alphagar]

As I said...I am the Mayor...so if there is only one town support role left...then it is obvious who is lying and my judgement of him was right despite my mistake in his initial roleclaim.

 

 

[LykosHand]

16 minutes ago, Jason Grace said:

 

 

At least one of you is non-town, as both of you are claiming a Town Support Role.

 

To Lykos: If you're the Escort, I'd like to know how "Kiet can confirm it". 

To Alphagar: If you're the Mayor, the best way to confirm your role is by revealing yourself as Mayor officially.

 

Also, I see. I have no idea how your trap would have worked when the Escort is clearly a non-unique role which means that other players have the chance of having the same role.

Because he is the first to whom i revealed my role and if you aren't sure about my role i visited Drak on N1 and on N2 no one because i forgot to do my night action. 

Yeah that's true but isn't strange that there would be two escorts? So i thought to wait and see if anyone would have said to have that role. Maybe it was a stupid plan but i wanted to try and now i don't see a reason to hide it so that's why i roleclaimed now.

[Bok Choi]

So it seems clear that Lykos is lying, but let me address Alphagar first to defend myself.

 

On the first night, I investigated Bean, because I typically find him quite hard to read. But he died, so.

On the second night, I had planned to visit either Lia or Drak, but that plan went down the drain rather quickly when Kiet jailed me (I couldn't do anything in jail). 

I don't know what else to tell you, if Nicki hadn't been haunted to death, she would be able to tell you of my roleclaim last day phase and of course Kiet can explain why he decided not to kill me.

 

In my mind, we have three suspicious people: Dive, Hypurr, and Lykos.

We had no way of verifying Hypurr's claim during the last day, so we trusted him, but now we know with Lia's death that that is a lie. Dive's possible third party alignment explains both the role contradiction and his behaviour (he hasn't been afraid to search for the mafia simply because he isn't one). And now we know with Alphagar's reveal as Mayor that Lykos's roleclaim can't be true. 

 

It's your decision what you all want to do, and it's up to you whether you trust me, but I've put all my cards on the table. Please think before casting your votes.

[Hypurr]

...Except I never said who I'll heal, did I?

 

Here's the compiled role list so far, 4 maf teams are never good for town. Not certain what holds for the town now, but thanks for roleclaiming! Now I'm gonna piece things together and bust people out because tonight will be very crucial for the town.

Jailor - Kiet
Town investigative - L'Belle/Spy
Town investigative - Jace/Investigator
Town killing - Nicki/Veteran
Town protective -Hypurr/Doctor
Town support - Alphagar/Mayor
Random town - Amber/Spy
Random town - Bean/Doctor
Random town - Lia/Spy
Godfather - ???
Mafioso - ???
Random Mafia - Newt/Consort
Random Mafia - ???
Neutral Evil - Bazaro/Jester
Neutral Killing - ???/Arsonist

 

The Roleclaims:

Bok - Sheriff

Jason Grace - Investigator

Lykos - Escort

Drakyle - ???

 

So let's get this straight, factually, there can't be another Town Support around namely Escort because Mayor has already taken its place. But the most interesting part is, why then the Investigator suddenly goes out to tell everyone that he visited the "Escort" and went with that select of role result?

 

Looking at that, this strikes me as thinking that they're not on the same team, and they're trying to rid off the Arsonist because the "Consigliere" has found him. If we look at it that way...

 

Bok - Sheriff

Jason Grace - Consigliere

Lykos - Arsonist

Drakyle - ???

 

Does it make sense now? While that explains a lot, what of the other two? Honestly, we can easily conceive that by their posts from the beginning till now; Bok has been trying to lay low. While Drak seems more vocal, he didn't seem to be contributing much in my opinion. So if they could call me out for at least making my defense, why aren't they calling out Drak for a virtually similar reason?

 

Bok  - Mafioso

Jason Grace - Consigliere

Lykos - Arsonist

Drakyle - Godfather

 

Unless the Jailor screws up like last time, it's all over. Execute the Arsonist tonight.

 

As for the vote, I'm gonna [Guilty] this.

[Lord Drakyle]

39 minutes ago, Hypurr said:

...Except I never said who I'll heal, did I?

 

Here's the compiled role list so far, 4 maf teams are never good for town. Not certain what holds for the town now, but thanks for roleclaiming! Now I'm gonna piece things together and bust people out because tonight will be very crucial for the town.

Jailor - Kiet
Town investigative - L'Belle/Spy
Town investigative - Jace/Investigator
Town killing - Nicki/Veteran
Town protective -Hypurr/Doctor
Town support - Alphagar/Mayor
Random town - Amber/Spy
Random town - Bean/Doctor
Random town - Lia/Spy
Godfather - ???
Mafioso - ???
Random Mafia - Newt/Consort
Random Mafia - ???
Neutral Evil - Bazaro/Jester
Neutral Killing - ???/Arsonist

 

The Roleclaims:

Bok - Sheriff

Jason Grace - Investigator

Lykos - Escort

Drakyle - ???

 

So let's get this straight, factually, there can't be another Town Support around namely Escort because Mayor has already taken its place. But the most interesting part is, why then the Investigator suddenly goes out to tell everyone that he visited the "Escort" and went with that select of role result?

 

Looking at that, this strikes me as thinking that they're not on the same team, and they're trying to rid off the Arsonist because the "Consigliere" has found him. If we look at it that way...

 

Bok - Sheriff

Jason Grace - Consigliere

Lykos - Arsonist

Drakyle - ???

 

Does it make sense now? While that explains a lot, what of the other two? Honestly, we can easily conceive that by their posts from the beginning till now; Bok has been trying to lay low. While Drak seems more vocal, he didn't seem to be contributing much in my opinion. So if they could call me out for at least making my defense, why aren't they calling out Drak for a virtually similar reason?

 

Bok  - Mafioso

Jason Grace - Consigliere

Lykos - Arsonist

Drakyle - Godfather

 

Unless the Jailor screws up like last time, it's all over. Execute the Arsonist tonight.

 

As for the vote, I'm gonna [Guilty] this.

I'm just gonna make one thing perfectly clear, i'm not the Godfather and my death would prove that for a fact that said if the 3rd party is an arsonist it raises the question of who we should be hunting right now them or the mafia?

[CrimsonDragon21]

Okay with the roleclaim from Alphagear, that solidifys that she is the Town Supportive role. That means that Lykos roleclaim could also not be trusted.

 

As 4 people right now claim to be the last remaining Random Town, there are 3 lying right now.

As for who to trust, it's probably how to view all the information we got.

 

• Hypurr claims Doctor, but hasn't been targeted by the Mafia, which rubs me the wrong way. Additionally from my whispers with Lia i got the information, that there were only 2 Mafia targets from Night 1. As part of the spy's role, you get notified of all the people that are targetted by mafia. For Night 1 the targets were Bean (Kill) and Nicki (Newt/Consort), which leaves one missing Mafia Night Action. So there are only 2 possibilities, who couldn't perform a Mafia Night Action: Hypurr, who got jailed for Night 1, or Drakyle, who got blocked by Lykos (if we trust his Escort claim).
• Bok claims Sheriff, but only visited deceased member on Night 1 and couldn't do his Night Action on Night 2, cause he got jailed by me. I still think he is more town alligned then any of the others, thats why i didn't execute him.
• Lykos claims to be Escort, but it's not like we have any info to trust his claim right now. He could be the Godfather/Arsonist if Dives reports are right.
• Dives claims to be Inspector. But i think he might be the Arsonist, who doused Lykos on Night 1 and only faked his report of him beeing Bodyguard, Godfather or Arsonist. But we don't know.

As for now i think we should rather focus on the more obvious targets who might be Mafia, then someone who might have a chance to turn out to be Town.

 

The obvious choice right now would be imo either Hypurr, who got as i stated before more mysteries behind him, or Drakyle, who hasn't roleclaimed and is only sitting on the sidelines watching us burn.

 

As for more interesting Infos, Drakyle whispered and revealed to me, that he is the Mafioso and Hypurr the Framer. I am not sure how much i can trust this information and why he would have done this. It could all be done to deceive me. Why would he rat out a member of his own. But those 2 are more suspicious then the others imo.

 

So i am gonna vote [Innocent] on Bok now.

And hope we can get one of the others on the Trial.

[LykosHand]

Okay now it's the time to say the truth. 


First let's put all the roles again:

Jailor 
Town investigative 
Town investigative 
Town killing 
Town protective 
Town support 
Random town 
Random town 
Random town 
Godfather 
Mafioso 
Random Mafia 
Random Mafia 
Neutral Evil 
Neutral Killing 


Now let's put all the players in thier roles:


Jailor - Kiet
Town investigative - L'Belle/Spy
Town investigative - Jace/Investigator
Town killing - Nicki/Veteran
Town protective -Hypurr/Doctor (probably it's a lie)
Town support - Alphagar/Mayor
Random town - Amber/Spy
Random town - Bean/Doctor (we aren't sure)
Random town - Lia/Spy
Godfather - ???
Mafioso - Drakyle
Random Mafia - Newt/Consort
Random Mafia - ???
Neutral Evil - Bazaro/Jester
Neutral Killing - ???/Arsonist

I'm indeed the Escort role but i said that i'm the town supportive because if you look from the link that Nano pinned on his server, you can see that the Escort is indeed one of town support section. What if i say that i'm the last random town? And i'm not lying. Now i will explain it right away.

If you look very carefully we don't know which is the second random mafia, so i had an idea. Now look at all the roles that mafia could have, i have found one really interesting:

Disguiser: Choose a target to disguise yourself as.

So what if Bean was the real town protective role and the only one real Doctor in this game? I will tell you what Hypurr did in my opinion. Let's say that he's the Disguiser and see that Bean had the Doctor role he decided to disguise as a Doctor. So yeah i believe that Hypurr is mafia and what Drakyle said about that there is a framer in the mafia roles, is a lie for try to protect his ally. That's my theory, i hope that you can understand what i'm saying. Afterall i suggested this before: "Yeah that's true but isn't strange that there would be two escorts? So i thought to wait and see if anyone would have said to have that role." Why i said that? Because i'm indeed one of the random roles. I'm really sorry for have created a mess with my role, this is the second time that happens and i will be more careful next time at explaining.

Now about Bok situation, i will try to trust him so:

[Innocent]

If you have still doubts about me, tell me and i will explain again if my words are a bit confusing

[Bok Choi]

I had considered the possibility of a disguiser, but that can be ruled out rather easily actually.

All the deaths except for Bean on the first day were caused by the veteran, meaning they couldn't have been the disguiser (the disguiser must visit to disguise themselves, and none of the veteran's kills were another veteran).

Bean was killed by the mafia, and imo there's virtually no chance that mafia would kill one of their own night 1 just to mess with the town. 

For night 2 kills, we can once again easily rule out the mafia kill (Lia), which leaves Nicki. However, we already had a very good grasp on Nicki's role, and she showed up in death exactly as who we concluded, and who she claimed she was. 

 

I don't think a disguiser could have messed with things, but someone please tell me if there's a flaw in my reasoning.

[Hypurr]

> not Godfather

> claims me to be maf while admitting himself as maf in jail

 

Hmm, so was I right about you being maf? Actually that's already obvious that we've found a scum ourselves.

19 minutes ago, CrimsonDragon21 said:

Okay with the roleclaim from Alphagear, that solidifys that she is the Town Supportive role. That means that Lykos roleclaim could also not be trusted.

 

As 4 people right now claim to be the last remaining Random Town, there are 3 lying right now.

As for who to trust, it's probably how to view all the information we got.

 

• Hypurr claims Doctor, but hasn't been targeted by the Mafia, which rubs me the wrong way. Additionally from my whispers with Lia i got the information, that there were only 2 Mafia targets from Night 1. As part of the spy's role, you get notified of all the people that are targetted by mafia. For Night 1 the targets were Bean (Kill) and Nicki (Newt/Consort), which leaves one missing Mafia Night Action. So there are only 2 possibilities, who couldn't perform a Mafia Night Action: Hypurr, who got jailed for Night 1, or Drakyle, who got blocked by Lykos (if we trust his Escort claim).
• Bok claims Sheriff, but only visited deceased member on Night 1 and couldn't do his Night Action on Night 2, cause he got jailed by me. I still think he is more town alligned then any of the others, thats why i didn't execute him.
• Lykos claims to be Escort, but it's not like we have any info to trust his claim right now. He could be the Godfather/Arsonist if Dives reports are right.
• Dives claims to be Inspector. But i think he might be the Arsonist, who doused Lykos on Night 1 and only faked his report of him beeing Bodyguard, Godfather or Arsonist. But we don't know.

As for now i think we should rather focus on the more obvious targets who might be Mafia, then someone who might have a chance to turn out to be Town.

 

The obvious choice right now would be imo either Hypurr, who got as i stated before more mysteries behind him, or Drakyle, who hasn't roleclaimed and is only sitting on the sidelines watching us burn.

 

As for more interesting Infos, Drakyle whispered and revealed to me, that he is the Mafioso and Hypurr the Framer. I am not sure how much i can trust this information and why he would have done this. It could all be done to deceive me. Why would he rat out a member of his own. But those 2 are more suspicious then the others imo.

 

So i am gonna vote [Innocent] on Bok now.

And hope we can get one of the others on the Trial.

Smh, the Spy report you get actually helped to incriminate Bok more than me, who you're trying to veer the lynch into. So pray tell, why is he using the 'I miseed my NA' excuse? Bet you can't figure out why, because if you have, you wouldn't be casting an Innocent vote.

 

That reminds me, why the hell didn't you execute Drak that night then? He told you that he's a mafia, and he brought me along as the 'accomplice', yet you held back to that claim and now went after me? Like, if you truly believe I'm a scum, you wouldn't have hesitated and should've gone to lynch me already from the get go.

11 minutes ago, LykosHand said:

Okay now it's the time to say the truth. 


First let's put all the roles again:

Jailor 
Town investigative 
Town investigative 
Town killing 
Town protective 
Town support 
Random town 
Random town 
Random town 
Godfather 
Mafioso 
Random Mafia 
Random Mafia 
Neutral Evil 
Neutral Killing 


Now let's put all the players in thier roles:


Jailor - Kiet
Town investigative - L'Belle/Spy
Town investigative - Jace/Investigator
Town killing - Nicki/Veteran
Town protective -Hypurr/Doctor (probably it's a lie)
Town support - Alphagar/Mayor
Random town - Amber/Spy
Random town - Bean/Doctor (we aren't sure)
Random town - Lia/Spy
Godfather - ???
Mafioso - Drakyle
Random Mafia - Newt/Consort
Random Mafia - ???
Neutral Evil - Bazaro/Jester
Neutral Killing - ???/Arsonist

I'm indeed the Escort role but i said that i'm the town supportive because if you look from the link that Nano pinned on his server, you can see that the Escort is indeed one of town support section. What if i say that i'm the last random town? And i'm not lying. Now i will explain it right away.

If you look very carefully we don't know which is the second random mafia, so i had an idea. Now look at all the roles that mafia could have, i have found one really interesting:

Disguiser: Choose a target to disguise yourself as.

So what if Bean was the real town protective role and the only one real Doctor in this game? I will tell you what Hypurr did in my opinion. Let's say that he's the Disguiser and see that Bean had the Doctor role he decided to disguise as a Doctor. So yeah i believe that Hypurr is mafia and what Drakyle said about that there is a framer in the mafia roles, is a lie for try to protect his ally. That's my theory, i hope that you can understand what i'm saying. Afterall i suggested this before: "Yeah that's true but isn't strange that there would be two escorts? So i thought to wait and see if anyone would have said to have that role." Why i said that? Because i'm indeed one of the random roles. I'm really sorry for have created a mess with my role, this is the second time that happens and i will be more careful next time at explaining.

Now about Bok situation, i will try to trust him so:

[Innocent]

If you have still doubts about me, tell me and i will explain again if my words are a bit confusing

Oooohh, I can see that work in a medium other than a forum. A very good plan indeed! If I were a Disguiser, I would've gotten Bean's face, Bean's pfp, Bean's otherworldly speech, what else to name...

 

...Before I go overboard with that, the role itself is too complicated to even become playable. Disguisers are cool and all, but truthfully, they don't really work in here, so no.

[LykosHand]

That's not what i meant, i understand that the real Disguiser on ToS can't work here. I meant only to take Bean's role and what i think is that Nano has changed the role Disguiser in: "you can diguise yourself as someone from the eliminated players" or something like that only for taking one of their roles. Now i hope that you understand what i meant, so probably Hypurr did so.

If in the end a Disguiser doesn't exist here, we can't hide the fact that Hypurr is mafia as he Drakyle said that he's one of his allies.

[Lord Drakyle]

i actually told Kiet my role earlier than you are assuming explained my reasons for it as well as telling Kiet to keep that info on hand until it will serve the town the most benefit. Why kiet didnt execute me i don't know really though i guess they wanted the opportunity to interrogate me further? Not often such an opportunity presents itself

[Bok Choi]

@HypurrKiet didn't jail Drak. He jailed you night 1 and then me night 2. He said Drak told him this over whispers (idk if that was yesterday or this day though)

[Hypurr]

6 minutes ago, Bok Choi said:

@HypurrKiet didn't jail Drak. He jailed you night 1 and then me night 2. He said Drak told him this over whispers (idk if that was yesterday or this day though)

Ah, whoops. Weird that it's only three days and I'm already... trippy as hell.

 

Actually, I have a suggestion. While this still won't clear doubts between parties, how about we pardon Bok from today's voting and go for Drak instead? Let the Jailor decide what to do next, not like I can tell who he'll execute, but if we want to be surefire, let's lynch the one that actually admitted about it. I'm sure people are okay with that, right?

 

That said, [Innocent], for now.

[CrimsonDragon21]

I think you've been goofed and mixing up some claims XD

56 minutes ago, Hypurr said:

That reminds me, why the hell didn't you execute Drak that night then? He told you that he's a mafia, and he brought me along as the 'accomplice', yet you held back to that claim and now went after me? Like, if you truly believe I'm a scum, you wouldn't have hesitated and should've gone to lynch me already from the get go. 

 What Bok already said above.

 

56 minutes ago, Hypurr said:

Smh, the Spy report you get actually helped to incriminate Bok more than me, who you're trying to veer the lynch into. So pray tell, why is he using the 'I miseed my NA' excuse? Bet you can't figure out why, because if you have, you wouldn't be casting an Innocent vote. 

But that was on the night you got jailed, so it would incriminate you and not Bok. Also Lykos was the one who said he missed his NA on Night 2.

 

I want to believe you are Town, so i would rather want to hang a confirmed Mafia member (Drakyle) then something we are all not sure about.

 

[Lord Drakyle]

Death by lynch or death by execution i dont mind either way, but dont think i wont be waiting for you in the graveyard hypurr.

[Hypurr]

1 minute ago, Lord Drakyle said:

Death by lynch or death by execution i dont mind either way, but dont think i wont be waiting for you in the graveyard hypurr.

I doubt I'll be dead anytime soon.

[Lord Drakyle]

We will see wont we.

[Alphagar]

3 hours ago, Hypurr said:

Ah, whoops. Weird that it's only three days and I'm already... trippy as hell.

 

Actually, I have a suggestion. While this still won't clear doubts between parties, how about we pardon Bok from today's voting and go for Drak instead? Let the Jailor decide what to do next, not like I can tell who he'll execute, but if we want to be surefire, let's lynch the one that actually admitted about it. I'm sure people are okay with that, right?

 

That said, [Innocent], for now.

Why do you suggest pardoning Bok?

[Daniel Blackworth]

Rip I'm too busy right now and don't have enough time to read/respond to the more recent posts. I only see some Innocent votes, but I'm not sure what they mean in this context, but for me, Bok is guaranteed to be not aligned with the town, so I'm not sure why we're not going with a guilty verdict.

[Guilty]

 

[Alphagar]

I have to go with my gut.. 

[Guilty]

[Nano4]

The votes have been tallied

 

Bok will be lynched with a vote of 4 - 3

 

We found a will

Spoiler

Kiet you succ

Boks role was forger

 

NIGHT LASTS 24 HOURS

Edited February 19, 2019 by Nano4

[Nano4]

as the town woke up they wondered which town died, so when they saw only 1 dead they worried

 

drakyle was found dead last night

they were executed by the jailor

 

their will read

Spoiler

"So you killed me? found out i'm mafia or just a blind kill? that's cool but i get the last laugh but i'm nice so lemme give you a hand, everything you think you know so far is wrong, see you in hell suckers, we have free ice cream and the best damn barbeques, what do you have?"(edited)

 

P.S i'm still unconvinced there is an arsonist

 

drakyles role was mafioso

 

DAY 4 LASTS 48 HOURS

 

VOTES NEEDED FOR A TRIAL: 3

 

[CrimsonDragon21]

As you can see there was no Mafia Kill this Dayphase. I was the one attacked but thankfully nursed back to health by the Doctor.

Meaning Hypurrs claim of Doctor was indeed the truth from the beginning.

That also leaves us with the two non towns Dive and Lykos.

 

Lykos is probably Godfather.

While Dive is Arsonist.

 

So i would say we lynch off Dive or Lykos and i jail and execute the other one.

 

[Eliminate] Dive

[Daniel Blackworth]

10 minutes ago, CrimsonDragon21 said:

As you can see there was no Mafia Kill this Dayphase. I was the one attacked but thankfully nursed back to health by the Doctor.

Meaning Hypurrs claim of Doctor was indeed the truth from the beginning.

That also leaves us with the two non towns Dive and Lykos.

 

Lykos is probably Godfather.

While Dive is Arsonist.

 

So i would say we lynch off Dive or Lykos and i jail and execute the other one.

 

[Eliminate] Dive

How do you know you've been "nursed back to health"? Also, doesn't jailing Drakyle stop you from getting killed at all?