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That portrait is probably to tie her in if you pick her as playable (although that wasn't exactly neccessary as an easteregg char) as Crescent has a Portrait with all the other playable chars, as for the grave, that doesn't necessarily have to be the same Ana or it ties into her sidestory later, guess we will see. Now i have thought about the Timesurfers a little with Freya's rather strange actions, combined with them working for Madame X (specifically Madame X probably not affiliated with Team Xen, just in case that distinction ends up mattering) but this time Keiran, he helped the player up Mt. Valor, by unlocking one of the emotion crystals, and providing emotion powder, which kind of played part in ruining Geara's plan in capturing Melia, the next time we see him in Alamissa Urben his comments indicate that he does indeed know the player to be the Interceptor, and does seem to have a strong problem with that concept. Also expressing boredom at everything being predetermined and playing out as he knows it's going to (Which makes his reaction to you entering Valor Mountain via the Backdoor in Crawli's gym funny: he expresses surprise at you coming from below instead of the main entrance, before shrugging it off) Keiran and Freya very likely have their own angles and work for Madame X seemingly for their own reasons, and are not above messing with her other projects when it suits them, so jay another side in this conflict. how many are we at with that? 7? more? you know what, that's a good point, Melia & Erin's mother talked to them in the Library via some means, but Anathea's spirit at the time was (and still is) in the Players soul stone.... sooo? who at the time was, in past Hiyoshi i might add (if i remember the sequence of events right). so there is probably something up.

If i may, Melia and Maria have a connection of some sort, there is not really any denying that, remember when Angie tried to sacrifice Melia? Melia before she broke the ritual flickered back and forth between herself and Maria(nette) visualy. the fact that Melia is not good at math, while maria was, is not really a point against that either as Melia is likely some sort of reincarnation in the same way Aelita is one of Vivian and Vivian knew stuff about Garufa Magic while Aelita knew absolutely nothing about it, because they are not entirely the same person but just magically connected, same probably counts for Melia and Maria Vitus Theolia has been stated to be the first man, created by Arceus according to Nymerias story, so if that is true he clearly doesn't age, so he doesn't really need to timetravel to be at all these points in time the way he is, he exists in any timeperiod that has humans by virtue of having LIVED THROUGH that, in fact i suspect he doesn't have any means of time travel (seeing as according to Gardevoir Storm 9 (that name.... gosh) is his doing, he would have used that ability to prevent Vivian's ritual properly), As for Anathea remebering giving birth to more than one child, geeeze if only we knew some kind of specialist that knows how to manipulate and/or entirely remove memories, like a doctor of some sort.... sorry couldn't help myself on that gag, but as i pointed out further up Anathea was in reach of Isha based on the patient profile in Hiyoshi, and if Indriad didn't want Anathea to remeber certain things he would absolutely find proficient help in Isha in that regard. now obviously a lot of this only theory, but the bit about angie's attempted sacrifice of Melia, is fact, and the bit about Vitus is being the first man is outright stated by Nymeria, his immortality being the logic consequence of that fact. so take this for what you will

I wouldn't actually underrestimate Serra in a blind nuzlock of all things tbh, especially with TTars propensity to only skim the field notes at best. The Haxqueen can and will hax her way to victory if you are not prepared for the BS that is mirror arena (or have a way to remove it). In fact if it gets to that fight i absolutely expect outrage at the evasion and the above usual amount of crits, as he might not know the field does that. then again the comments will yell at him about it. once the run goes anywhere near there, won't they?...

I have been trying to find an instance where we see dishsoaps IVs or recent stats, just because i kinda wanted to see if the iron head might have been a range to kill... couldn't find any... oh well For the future we will get to see azurine Aster&Eclipse, and Taka... i have been notably bad with predicting how these things might go, and he will probably train up atleast 1 new mon maybe 2. so we will see i guess. but Aya certainly promises to be interesting (if he doesn't quit the lock after the mere sight of Solaris' chomp after repeatedly expressing that he might not want to nuzlock this anymore, which could be just in the moment stuff, i wouldn't know i misinterpret people all the time) Another thing for the pile of AI wierdness that i forgot, is why did toxicroak not try for sucker punch (not even against karen, it was asleep but karen went first so it choose a different move) and yes it does have sucker punch. I'm pretty sure TTar still has his Bellybutton... I will show myself out...

quoting myself because i just realised something... there is a file for anathea in the ruins of hiyoshi city (in fact i don't remember wasn't that even in Isha's house or was it the Hospital?), and isha was working there before the calamity, we know Isha can mess with memories... no curtesy of Indriad, curtesy of Dr. Isha

This might be a recuring theme with my musinings but I have no idea what Indriad is trying to do, he seemingly tried to destroy the world sacrifice everything to Arceus like the crazy cult leader that he is but then what is up with looking away 3 of his children, and repeadedly trying to sacrifice the 4th? because it doesn't stick? or trying to retund the piece of Arceus to him, but according to Nymeria he wanted to archetype for himself? I really need to finish my replay of the game, i don't remember nymeria's story too well. Well that is a theory! it would explain why 3 of them were locked away (Indriad trying to do what he is doing with no.4 possibly as a test run), heck that would even give the interpretation that the 4 lights from the prophecy are melia and her siblings more credence as that way they actually would fill the whole "Not born of man" stipulation, which in other interpretations only Melia fits for, being a similiar sort of reicarnation as Aelita is for Vivian. (probably anyway we don't know anything) which by the way is my main explaination how Melia and Maria lived in the same time for 3 years, with neither having a time gear or anything, without bad things happening, they are not enough of the same person to count for timecorrection. (that's a pretty blury line though considering Melanie counted despite being a completly different person as well) Still not a fan of that interpretation of the light prophecy but with this theory it is at least credible. that seems to be a pretty common thing here, that a lot of people have an absolut mess of powers, i mean just look at Crescent, Madame X, Freya, Melia, heck even the player char (i generally don't go fo MC, because we kinda share that with melia) is close to straight up immortal. Also no offense taken on my part, i can get a lot worse when i get invested in a discussion, if for instance paperblade had thought i still mean the eye or something i could have garantied for nothing

Huh, i read all that but didn't make that connection, i kinda thought the physical details in the Hospital report were discribing one of Indriad's maids (covering for Anatheas death or smth) this makes way more sense, though the scar in the shape of a key still strikes me as odd, and the fact that the report says she had 4 children and well she did, while anathea herself claimed Maria to be an only child i think. (who can say, "changed Memories, curtesy of Indriad"?)

tbh i am of the mind that Freya was tricking the "Eraser" into erasing the wrong one, Nora instead of Taelia. Mainly because i doubt she was playing with Kenneth for the fun of it (that was just a bonus), so she could have steered the Eraser in the right (or wrong depending how you look at it) direction. so yeah it's probably technically true that she didn't collaborate with the Eraser, just originally wanted to point out that freya with her powers easily could have burned the tower and looked like a black haired woman. now to what end mess with the eraser and Kenneth like that? now that is a good question, might actually have to do with the twin prophecys (aelita is a prime candidate for the prophecy of light), but we don't really know to much about freya either soo we can only guess. Edit: btw just because i think her reason might involve the light prohecy doesn't mean that i think she might have good intentions, seriously as far as i am concerned she is pure evil (not necessarily the shadow thereof) About your name: Yeah was just curious after typing it out in the last post, if you're not comfortable sharing that's fine.

Well then what to say, i am slightly miffed that the comments told him about Victoria, but eh it was an interesting fight either way. (and confirmation in video about being blocked in for her too.) That iron head man, i know the game likes to cherry tap with different moves to conserve PP on the big moves and catch switches, but usually it does that when the weaker move kills anyway soo wtf was that? XD good thing he trained karen up, this thing might have gone different if he hadn't. that whole dance around with Belly in the battle was kinda nervewracking, especially when he sent in into the lucario (the singlemost dangerous thing on kiki's team against poison) I also kind of find it funny that he only ever took neutral hits from strength, so he probably never figured out that it's her fighting & psychic move for half her team. a fact which helped him a lot making Kiki (the mightyena) be able to tank the gallade because it has no fighting move that isn't also psychic, hilarious. And as for Belly's death... that's kinda why it would have been a good idea to actually read the Field notes but he never found this one (it is a little out of the way & costs a protein... so yeah don't really blame him there) I believe everyone knows this but ftr that was a guarantied crit, no bad luck about that one.

hence the possibility of indirectly (and i call bs on Freya not being at least partially involved on the whole murder Taelia bit, seeing as she manipulated kenneth's ENTIRE LIFE since he got to Aevium) as for the Black haired woman, considering what we know freya's powers for manipulation and illusion are like that doesn't necessarily mean anything. If we take Madame X as black haired, then she might have done it (remember Yveltal was involved in that, you hear it's cry when we hear about the death of kenneth's mother), but that makes even less sense with whispy tower apparently being a Xen facility, although maybe that was the point she turned against Indriad, hard to say. Fair enough on the interpretation, but i will second nhehvnukl's (honest question: does that mean anything or is that banging on the keyboard randomly?) observation.

I know it's hard to see due to the general color scheme but there is a long strand of black hair on her right.... enlarged versions of the sprites (should have done that from the start) careful pixely

Regarding the overlapping: the only thing i recall of Mademe X saying something about touching, is her warnining Melia against touching the Princess (melanie) at all, not about herself. and while the doomed timeline gave some parallels between Mademe X and Melanie, (Yveltal, "Father. i have lost") i am pretty sure at this point that Madame X and Melia are not different Version of the same Person, the most recent Version putting a nail in that. On Eclysia Pyramid if you did the "house sitting" sidequest in West Gearen and won the robot fight between amanda and Sakitron, the latter then breaks part of Madame X's mask on Eclysia, you don't see a lot, but it would seem that Madame X is slightly darker skinned and black haired. See my next post for the sprite Speaking of wierd people working with team Xen, anyone ever took a closer look at the decor in the whispy tower labs, the black and red?, the banners with the x's? it all actually looking old and not hung up by Geara when he went there to get Giratina? well who worked there before, Narcissa's husband Sirius Edit: removed redundant sprite picture to save upload limit

for buizel the event is longer now, to start it you go into waiting room building on the pier, near buizel, one of the people talks about it, you know you started it when the buizel walks past you when you leave the building. as for chinchou... if it's not avaiable wild, then if you missed the shadow one way or another, you missed the mon for now, but i am not sure on this part somebody else might know better

Oh we are talking about spacea and Tiempa now (those names.. geeez) I mean... not to be rude but i think most people see that and just don't say it because the connection is that obvious. Speaking of obvious things, these two are super shifty aswell (tbh just about everyone outside of the main gang is, or i am just that paranoid probably that) but yeah i don't really know what their full deal is. But i like to bring up a specific instance because it confuses me, back during chapter 12 (Remember I Love you),Tiempa gave, Melia, Aelita and the Player a Time Gear Amulett each, Spacea swiped the one given to Aelita back shortly after, because ostensensibly she didn't want Aelita to also be part of the whole doomed Timeline bit. But here is the thing... why give Aelita the amulett in the first place, it's not like Spacea and Tiempa were obligated to give her anything at all? You could say to cover for them being tricky about what happens next, but it would be perfectly obvious after the fact anyway so not much point there. Or were Spacea and Tiempa of different minds on this? I just don't get it and am probably overthinking that detail, Melia is if math doesn't fail me apparently a 1/12 of Arceus (she and her 3 siblings make up one Archetype, and there are 3 of those Arceus split into, if i remember Nymeria's Story right) but apparently Melia specifically is "broken" thanks to probably Indriad's sacrifices of Maria(nette). Also on the MadameX theory i put down, my TLDR kinda misrepresented to point, rereading it, just to clarify, The MadameX's are the same person just that Kugearen and doomed Timeline MadameX is probably from further in the future than, Blacksteeple & Ecylsia Pyramid Madame X, and the later doesn't have the Time Diamond yet

abra is not one of the ones that you have to return for the Mega-Z ring quest thankfully. spoiler for which ones are:

Oh man you have no idea what you have done with that post, you made me RAMBLE, so yeah i gonna put this stuff in seperate spoiler tags, not because spoilers, but because it's gonna be long (it's still gonna be spoilers for the entire up to V12 and possibly WLL, but a discussion like this is always gonna have those) Crescent : TL:DR: Crescent is still alive, and a schemer I distrust heavily, due to her manipulating People left right and Center Madame X: TL:DR there might be 2 seperate MademeX's we are looking at and present time MadameX can't Timetravel Redhead Timesurfer (Freya): TL:DR: she is a [insert favorite insult], and i like your theory Nastasia & Venam: TL:DR: No, just read it, or don't it isn't that important or long and finally just for Fun because i included one guess for each of the shadows except greed; Flora, a greed for power, in fact thats the one I am most sure of okay that was way to much typing and some people might now think i am insane (probs am), also is discussion lore so widely, in topic for a V13 thread still on topic.... to late to think about that

Dang, that's too bad about the Kidnapping Split, I figured it might mess with the exp routing... but thank's for the confirmation on Demian & Antione. Well for Ruby Ring and Garchomp splits, we are in agreement then, i pretty much only listed out what i knew the Ruby Ring split does because i misread the initial statment about it, but i figured changes that are there are either not relevant or slower, and chomp... yeah that's pretty much what i figured. On the other kidnapping routes, from my observation there is no difference between them at all (outside of relationship points, that are not getting used so far), Saphira kidnapped is the only one that is notably different. seeing as we are talking about story splits, ftr the Reshiram route presumably takes much longer, due to longer cutscene before titania, and Amaria trying to drown you, correct? (and Z-move vs Mega on amaria might also be relevant) i don't think the choice at Dittoceus currently does anything in the long run (it only immediatly makes Dittoceus either an optional or mandatory win) and the police split pretty much only changes dialogue and and corey's fight (and the later is most definetly not worth the time spend on getting police men, even if it was a faster fight, which i am not convinced of) ... you can probably ignore that later half of the post completly, just wanted to put my thought on all story splits out there

sooo yeah just for the record, i don't want to see him fail I just like to discuss what could give him trouble, personally speaking, which is why i considered Victoria, Because TTar navigated himself into an akward spot on accident. that being said I can see where I could have come off like that yeah... I did also notice some more Hostile tones here and there (but i am really not i a position to judge) An AI patch just for the sake of it seems pointless (the suggestion probably wasn't serious anyway) the updates are gonna be with E19 and there a probably still going to be wierd instances like, the Typh that really likes Solarbeam, because stuff like that is a mess to code, and there are always edge cases it doesn't quite cover in the end.

That's a good point actually, Nastasia pulled this entire secret mission, with people that have hindered Team Xen in the past, at least one of which Madame X has wanted dead at one point (player), but on the other hand one of the reasons for that was to save Melia's Life (who is needed alive by Team Xen for something...) and while that wasn't Melia in the end the reason is sound, so in the end it's probably down to how well Nastatasia can talk her way through this mess. It's still interesting that one of the last Xen Admins that we know went against Madame X at this point, leaving aside Neved (kind of like the game does for the most part), they are all either Incapacitated (Zetta, Geara). Demoted and Shamed (Madelis) or kind of traitorours (Nastasia). Also I still don't quite get why she brought Petriefied Venam along for this and made a huge secret about it... what reason does she have to care about Venam?

I meant the EV/IV thing as i set them in a way that the stats matched to what was seen in the video 85 def 95 spdef at lv.44 (i didn't feel like hunting to see if Belly's IVs are visible at some point), so the calcs are correct but for the wrong reason, meaning i had the IVs on swalot higher than TTs has, because it has EVs, to be exact i did the calcs with 16 IV 0 EV def, and 31 IV 36 EV spdef, which incedentaly means that Bellys def IVs are pretty bad Edit: only just noticed that i forgot to set the HP right, but for the purpose if this it shouldn't matter as long as the defences are correct, the percent numbers are different but the end result would still be flame charge > solar beam I hate my perfectionism... i looked to when he caught the gulpin, took it's IVs, took it's stats from this Episode, got it's EVs from the roughly and redid the calcs, it comes out basically the same: 54 SpA Typhlosion Solar Beam vs. +3 12 HP / 36 SpD Swalot: 7-9 (4.7 - 6.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever 54 Atk Muscle Band Typhlosion Flame Charge vs. +3 12 HP / 60 Def Swalot in Sun: 15-18 (10.2 - 12.3%) -- possible 9HKO Swalot should have currently: 22IV/12EV HP; 17IV/60EV atk; 2IV/60EV def; 10/60 spatk; 30/36 spdef; 21/96 spd and Jolly

only brought that up as a technicallity anyway. don't really think he is gonna to that, and as mentionted doesn't really have anything to do with intelligence, he either luckily in that very moment thinks of something to check upstairs, (unlikely and lots of people would call BS on that, even if it is genuine) or he breaks the whole blind thing, which a lot of people would rightfully call BS Edit: Really? , i am pretty sure i did that once, was then confused why Kiki wasn't on the battlefield till i remembered that i avoided Victoria, might have been E16 or something though as mentioned i did the math on this, between, 10% fieldboost, sun and STAB, flame charge would have done more than Solarbeam, double it even 54+ SpA Typhlosion Solar Beam vs. +3 0 HP / 36 SpD Swalot: 8-9 (5.3 - 6%) -- possibly the worst move ever 54- Atk Muscle Band Typhlosion Flame Charge vs. +3 0 HP / 0 Def Swalot in Sun: 15-18 (10 - 12%) -- possible 9HKO note: the Muscle Band simulates the 10% field boost, the EVs and IVs on Swalot are only to get the finished stat correctly, and are not accurate also the IV's on Trainer Mons are always the same accros the board for the mon, in this case 20 in everything, RPG maker doesn't really allow for setting IV's differently from each other

I am not sure if I should call the Graveler thing unlucky because self-destruct or lucky that Mightyena survived... i guess it comes out neutral I am really not sure what the heck the AI was doing with the Typhlosion, taking everything into account, Flame Charge would have done double of what Solar beam did, even with it's modest nature ( i did the math) Well technically he could get around Victoria still, by going through the upper floor to the exit, but then why would he do THAT? so no healing items, with only 5 trained up team Members Vs. Victoria, this ought to be good, and the underleveled team Member is the smoochum, a jynx would really help him against Kiki, and if he loses that... this looks like a soon to be trainwreck As for Victoria. well this is actually the first battle with her in which half her team isn't hilariously weak, everything hitting final evolution, we are looking at Pangoro 37, Mienfoo 37, (Alola)Raichu 37, Gallade 38, and Incineroar 39, with quite a few things that can break through bellys defences, nasty plot + Psychic on raichu, Sword dance + Psycho cut on gallade, and of course darkest lariat

Barbaracle 36, Turtonator 36, Hakamo-o 37, Typhlosion 36, Charizard 37, Magmortar 38.

I don't understand how I missed the Lombre it's on his active team.... although the point still stands that he won't know to fake out Hitmonlee specifically to prevent unburden. well we can hope that, Kiki (or maybe Cal in some wierd Universe) will drive the point home, we all know that Solaris' Chomp will just get the BS clause

I mean i only listed the speed and everything as a possible discussion basis, i realy don't think the Hitmonlee is going to be the problem here, although it should be said, to counter fake out with fake out you kinda need to know it's coming, which is not going to be the case in a blind nuzlock of all things (also i don't think he has anything that learns fake out anyway), sooo if you honestly expect strats like that your gonna get disappointed well probably though that seems a little harshly put