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  1. i think i am gonna have to agree with nicki, revealing who you give an arcane focus too defeats the point, but the good news to that is that newt is safe from being maf killed i guess, as that would reveal the scum that does the kill (would like confirmation from newt about it anyway, nano is kinda hard to trust)
  2. Well losing a Vigi N1 is not good.... So then end of the last day was certainly eventful, especially after i posted the vote count, so i kinda want to evaluate the votes in the end the count stood 6 for kiet (newt, aldo, arch, bean, lia & baz) and 5 for newt (kiet, evi, astra, me & nano) also bok was waffling back and forth I still stand by my reason for voting newt at the time, but especially his role reveal post (that was writen like he expected to die) convinced me to believe him for now nano, jumping in to turn a no-lynch into a lynch is definetly suspicious and he better have a very good explanation afterwards bok stopped on not voting and newt unvoted kiet, so it was a no lynch again (5 to 3 for newt) then lia and baz came in and turned it into a lynch again, so both are suspect to me, especially lia seeing as her explanation makes no sense to me, if you don't think either is sus then don't turn a no lynch into a lynch newt then voted kiet again to break the tie... i would think it suspicious but the context makes me think just saving himself astra's reasoning was wierd to me aswell, but seeing as astra died, to whats likely the maf kill, that read is moot aldo's vote seems genuine to me, and evi's resoning is condensed version of my own, so can't fault her now kiet himself... after rereading yesterday after his lynch redirect i feel something is fishy here, i might actually have to agree with aldo that he was trying to figure out town more then scum, and his redirect to bean is understandable, bean is a wild card you can generally flip if you have nothing else to go on from my view, but it's also an easy out, so i would like to hear from kiet his reasoning and an explanation of his role finally role reveal, i think we need info so i would suggest revealing one of the more open ended roles, like bard or wizard, i was going to vote for revealing wizard but seing as nano claims it, i would rather hear more before doing that, and a confirmation from newt that he really did get an item
  3. what does that mean? also vote count: Kiet: 4 (newt, aldo, arch, bean) Newt:4 (kiet, evi, astra, fali) curently only 8 votes so no lynch for now
  4. well okay, sooo i honestly think kiet was just trying to logic the situation out and might have gotten overzealous, or as he himeself said read too much between the lines, so i think kiet is fine, newt then immediately "attacked" kiet (is newt always like this?), this could be an aggressive town putting pressure on kiet, but i don't know... his reasoning seems scummy too me, and I don't have a better lead today so [Eliminate] Newt
  5. there are including vanilla npc, 16 roles in to OP, that includes DM, it was stated that there are 3 Vanilla NPCs, so that adds up to 18, unless there are other duplicates there is someone with a DM role
  6. well this is certainly something come back to,, not sure what to make of the dogfight between newt and kiet yet. as for kiet's read what vanilla Npc does, i guess it could be, not all that vanilla but fair enough, seeing as we are currently revealing that role information right now, we are gonna know at the end of the day at latest. As for TP, well the dungeonmaster is probably one, and i have no clue what that could be doing or how he wins, and the 2nd? well either artificer is TP or it's just randomly one of the adventurer classes, the question then remains what their wincon would be... revealing DM would tell us what that TP does but.. also give him power, seems scary.
  7. just fyi, the reveal isn't about people claiming vanilla town, it's revealing the role information, that then also upgrades said role, vanilla NPCs are garantied to be town so upgrading their role is pretty much garantied to help us. as for the lynch, i agree we have a relatively big number of non Towns so lynching it's more likely to hit maf (or TP), just note that more than half of us need to vote for a lynch for it happen today. although i, seeing as i am not really a random person, will wait with my lnych vote for a bit, seeing if I get a hunch, but i will definetly vote today, Amine's claim seems wierd, but could be a miscommunication on his part.
  8. well according to the rules section, level ups happen when the role is revealed (hence the votes for vanilla town) and give an additional ability, if my reading comprehension doesn't fail me
  9. okay now that i can actually think, yeah revealing vanilla Town is a nobrainer, boosting no less than 3 garantied towns, is way to good to pass up [reveal] Vanilla NPC I was gonna speculate on what the various classes do, but Lia got ahead of me, most of it seems to match with my thoughts aswell, some information roles should be in there, at first glance paladin, rogue and ranger seem to be the go to roles for that. The martial classes are probably, either just some variant of killing stuff or being hard to kill i think and in agreement with Lia the mages can go a lot of ways not really to sure what could happen, here. The main difference between Wizard and Sorc in normal D&D is that a sorc can just use whichever spell they know without having to to think what will need for the day, while Wizards have to choose which exact spell they will use on a day... so I am guessing the Wizard might have an ability that requires some (relatively) meticulus prepration, while the sorc has something either flexible or at least straightforward Bard is a jack of all trades, so that can be just about everything, it can even be information of some sort (bardic lore) Blood hunter, well if that doesn't hurt or kill stuff i don't know Warlock: i have no idea tbh might be something flashy though Monk: I never really understood monk as a whole so i don't see what this could be, i will refer to more expierienced D&D players here
  10. Well some people rolled high for initative 5 mafs and 2 Tp you say? well that makes 11 towns if basic math doesn't fail me, presumably one of the TPs is the dungeonmaster, just going by the role description. as for the role reveals, I will have to think about, information and the power up are both to be considered, some classes are probably straight forward in what they do, i'd imagine the ranger is a tracker for example. (but yeah the opener states that vanilla is always town)
  11. On that note how about a Vote Count: -Newt: 6 (Kiet, Aldo, Seal, Nicki, Drago, Arch) -Lykos: 4(Newt, Soph, Lia, Fali) -Sophiera:1 (anti) -Bean:1 (Lykos) -Nicki: 1 (bean) -Lia:1 (Alistair) -No Vote: @Candy & @DigitalAmber Please consider Voting you 2
  12. well even more Votes on newt, It's probably to late to swing the vote to someone else. But his don't care attitude sets of all sorts of red flags... [unvote] Newt [Eliminate] Lykoshand If the vote swings of Newt after all, i'd like the vigi to shot Newt just to be sure
  13. That's supposed to be a B, the lower bar is cut of due to the shape, (considering how small these are supposed to be it would be difficult to fit) but a big B on blue ground is how the family symbol of the Blakeory's looks, compare with the banners in scholar districts library for example
  14. Well I might aswell reitterat popular theory, looking at the design for the fairy and dark badges, the colour scheme kinda looks lika cosmias hair (the one that pretendend to be nancy), so popular theory holds that she together with Comet might field the the Fairy and dark leaders (possibly at the same time), whether that's true or not just looking at the design implies that fairy and dark are connected in some way. Fun thing about that is also that i seem to recall that Jan at some point mentioned the possibility of a Version without a new badge, and looking at the level caps, the Version after the next seems to be the spot for that to happen, after the next badge the level cap jumps by 10 levels, it doesn't do that anywhere else. it the cap also doesn't go up after the fairy badge, which could play into the doubles theory. The very next one is steel, we already know saki is steel, and looking at the design of the badge we are not gonna get a substitute either (It's literally her family crest with her personal initial added).
  15. great i am getting jester vibes again... but that lead me wrong last day too even still maybe we should leave newt to the vig? but i don't really have anyone else in mind for a lynch (well outside of kiets self sacrifice-plan to mess the coyote up) I am still vary of Lykos tbh. and soph is even quiter than newt... any thoughts?
  16. Actually adding onto my musings, do we KNOW the coyote can get another working gun from kiet again? we know they can guess someone and shot whoever they want, but can they even repeat guesses? (probably yes as it doesn't say otherwise but just a thought)
  17. I mean i guess killing kiet is a way to stop the coyote from getting free guns, but i feel like we should lynch somebody suspicious and not a confirmed town, and if the coyote the is still around at the end of the day the Vig can sort it out (unless of course they have a better idea) i am pretty sure the witch controlls someones nightaction, aka for her to mess this up she would have to controll specifically the vig, which would be a problem (and most likely a dead vig) either way as for lynching ali that doesn't seem like it would help, getting rid of kiet slows deaths down in the long run as the coyote has a harder time getting guns, but lynching somone for being doused sounds like a waste of a lynch better used to try find scum, especially since the arsonist probably will douse a few more before setting it off (that just seems more efficient to me)
  18. actually just to reiforce my question: because newt's silence really rubs me the wrong way i am gonna follow kiets vote here for pressure, explain yourself! [Unvote] Lykos [Eliminate] Newt
  19. Tbh taking what bean writes at face value leads to insanity, don't (but also don't ignore bean because of that either) While there is a small chance for a tailor suit i somewhat doubt it, but it's something to keep in mind, for the coming days In fact, just for the sake of it: Nano is definetly what he flipped as, he was protected from other actions being jailed (which just to reitterate means the jailer can't execute anymore) Astra, flipped as what they claimed, so i am pretty convinced thats correct too (or the tailor is a troll, but i don't see what that would do) Jelly, could be possible, ig, same with bok As for the dead clown, does the madness persist after the clown dies? if it does people who visited bok last night should probably say so (if they are allowed too anyway) Lia i am always akward Um.... i know i am currently voting for lykos too, but Newt care to explain you vote? Ali's vote for Lia too for that matter
  20. Okay there is the coyote shot... soo bok was the clown? not sure if the passing of the clown nose is supposed to signify something or is just a fancy way of reinforcing what role bok was, gonna guess the later for now. So sophs "placeholder vote" for a dead person confuses me really As for Kiets read on the coyote role, you are probably right I overlooked that the guess probably isn't a visit, so stalker and jailer definetly don't have too much to gain from visting kiet, and well i kinda assumed your role to be plainly obvious although i do that a lot assuming things i notice are easy to see, so i guess someone might not have noticed it. though given what just happened that seems to not be the case
  21. well for the clown the main question is what exactly the crazyness entails that one gets when they visit him, the clowns role specifically mentions crazy people don't get to harm him, so i guess crazy people DO get to harm other people (or that is specifically only there incase the vig or the SK go crazy) The SK: i would have loved to try to figure out who it might be based on their target, but that being astra, who claimed an information role... that doesn't tell us much, that claim was a huge target. even without it being specific. The Arsonist targetted Alistair, maybe the regular players have an idea who it might be based on that? The witch. can mess with actions quite a bit and if she gets the vig she kills 2 people for the price of one (provided she makes the vig shoot town) The tailor and the Jester are pretty much only here to sow chaos, making us distrust flipped roles and trip over our lynch ideas, fearing me might be hitting someone that wants to be lynched (i know i read to much into kiet's crazy on day 1 and the fact that it was actually getting votes) i am not sure on the stalker but yeah kiet might be somebody to watch for him that i can agree on. While the Jailer looking kiet up would prevent coyote from using him to get guns, i feel like a roleblocker like that might have more important things to do, and gets to question people which could give valuable information even with his ability to kill being lost (seriously i know i voted against nano but his roleclaim felt genuine to me and those were my ramblings on the evil roles and anti suggestion
  22. wouldn't agree that it's a 1/17 for the coyote, kiet's role was basically confirmed on the lynch yesterday but isn't officially revealed so coyote almost definetly guessed on kiet and got their gun, and depending on if the get to make the same guess on kiet again, might have guarantied guns for as long as kiet is around. and as he can only hold one... well... they will probably want to use it today unless it's an inactive player
  23. i think nicki means the massclaim suggestion here on danger of looking sus i don't think it's a good idea there are other dangers to having open roleclaims that the coyote
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