SJMistery

Yeah, Latios lacks a move to hit him, oh wait, it HAS one: 252 SpA Choice Specs Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 282-333 (92.7 - 109.5%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO Sableye, good luck surviving a draco meteor with the specs and then using recover... oh wait the mega has no prankster and is slow.... 252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 189-223 (62.1 - 73.3%) -2 252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 94-112 (30.9 - 36.8%) even without them it's a 56% chance to KO it without any prior damage or stealth rocks (no leftovers makes the former hard) PD I would like to see you on the ladder, the easiest way to test if something works is with a battle, and it would be the easiest way to confront our opposed ideals

There is no need to target on the weaker defense stat to break through Chansey with Latios. Trick will permanently cripple it, even if you already tricked the Choiced item away to another wall, by eliminating the blob's precious Eviolite. In fact, my modus operandi on stall is to send the choice specs on the steel type wall, then remove the eviolite, and recover the choice specs to (star)hammer the team to oblivion.

First of all, I want to apologyze for having been so harsh with my previous comments. After seeing dozens of awfully made teams since the reset of the ladder on both Showdown and PO some months before, I tend to flip out on any mistake, no matter how tiny. I even tried to look for you in the ladder to challenge and "teach you a lesson". Sorry for that too, totally immature on my part. Kamina, thanks for explaining on a civilized manner what I tried to explain. Maybe using scarf Landorus, leaving the stealth rocks to cleffable instead of using healing wish might be an alternative too to get a revenge killer and dragon and birdspam destroyer (with stone edge, rock slide or rock tomb), as Defog Latios in my opinion is not very reliable. But keep that in mind, nothing I boasted before is a lie: I actually AM a veteran Reborn player and I had a team in particular that used to strike fear on anyone. Want me to prove it? On the chat of the server, just mention "Substitute+Dragon Dance Dragonite", and ask who used it on BW. It's almost guaranteed to irritate everyone in a "Speak of the Devil" way. Not even perma-weather was so feared or hated as my Dragonite these days And, if you do not mind using the traductor, I can also prove what I boasted above about the Gothistall. Look here to see the my prototype: http://www.pokexperto.net/foros/index.php?topic=54448.1060 Its the 1074th comment, i have the same name and image on this forum, Made during January, and posted the 1-2-2015. Older than any other pure gothistall. On that forum is also where we have a teambuilder specialized in testing new sets too, with Eeveeto as our leader.

A more detailed answer? here it goes.

I totally disagree with you. In particular, your team gets totaled by every single dragon dance sweeper you care to name with stealth rock support after weakening the landorus a little in some cases. Saying that sweepers are unviable? When your own team is incredibly weak to them!? Nice way to prove your point, really. Show me replays of your battles, so i can see just WHAT kind of opponents you have played against, because I think I have an acurate guess of the "quality" of their teams. Your Mew in particular is a massive Dragonite, Altaria or Charizard set-up bait, and landorus can't touch dragonite either, SR+packing Iron Head for Clefable (not very strange)+a Dragon Dance every time you send Landorus=immediate sweep, and the less said of what will happen if a SD Garchomp ever notices your Mew lacks Will-o-wisp, the better. You wanted to know the reason U-turn is ALWAYS the move to go on Mew? Well, it's called Ground Types, who block the move entirely, including the switch out effect. Psychic moves suck in general, the only reason it is seen at all is because Psyshock on the Starmie, the Lati twins or on Alakazam, to make short work of the fat blobs. And I also want to avoid mentions of a Pursuit Tyranitar massacring your Mew and setting up rocks (no, volt swich does not prevent the effects of Pursuit, neither does U-turn). Loosing Tyranitar in that team means get raped by Talonflame due to lacking rock moves on Landorus, or by any other flying type in fact. Mega Pinsir with rocks wrecks this team wide open all by itself (CC massacres poor slow Tyranitar, return at +2 outspeeds kills charizard, and with rocks it does not even need a boost, anything else can't even scratch it). YOU NEED A REVENGE KILLER AND A SWEEPER IN AN OFFENSIVE TEAM. NO QUESTIONS.

Viridiscent: I never liked the latis as deffoggers, but after trying latios i realized the Choiced set works wonders here to eliminate electric types. Scizor proved to be nothing but a burden and got replaced by AV Excadrill that not only removes the electric weakness but also the Flying weakness, as well as providing a secondary hazard control, wich was really necessary with that double x4 rock weakness. Empoleon does not remove momentum tough, scald works wonders anytime. Also replaced EQ by Close Combat, after checking that +2 CC can break through Jirachi. Feint never has made me miss a KO until now, and killing Talonflame and Weavile after rocks at +2 is very well worth the ltiny power drop. An attack with +2 priority with the extra benefit of breaking through Protect is just too good to pass it up, even at the "cost" of a 10 BP drop Neosong: Kingrda is supposed to work as this on an emergency but as i have never been able to test the team i dunno. I'll give a try to that. NickCrash: I will do that the day i feel like loosing to almost anything. Substitute empoleon totally sucks in OU.

WTF. wasn't the exp share supposed to be an irremovable Key Item now?

about breeding, as far as i know, the moves do not change anymore while inside, and only readjust when you remove the mons... PD who's Clyde?

for starters: you can use showdown sprites? sad thing i hear it now, i love juan's (emerald's water leader) sprite. and WTF is a $R? PD dragonite looks blue lel

old veterans will recognise this team, with just Greninja replacing Latios due to the basic rules: Greninja @ Life Orb Ability: Protean EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Hasty Nature - Ice Beam - Dark Pulse - Gunk Shot - Hydro Pump Belgabad (Dragonite) (M) @ Leftovers Ability: Multiscale Shiny: Yes EVs: 252 HP / 72 Def / 52 SpD / 132 Spe Jolly Nature IVs: 0 SpA - Dragon Claw - Dragon Dance - Substitute - Roost Mamfred (Mamoswine) (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Thick Fat EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe Adamant Nature IVs: 0 SpA - Earthquake - Superpower - Ice Shard - Icicle Crash Albitr (Aegislash) (M) @ Spell Tag Ability: Stance Change EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpA Brave Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Sacred Sword - Shadow Ball - Shadow Sneak - King's Shield Tempestad (Empoleon) (M) @ Leftovers Ability: Torrent EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD Calm Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Stealth Rock - Scald - Defog - Toxic Phoenix (Talonflame) Ability: Gale Wings EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe Jolly Nature IVs: 0 SpA - Acrobatics - Swords Dance - Flare Blitz - Roost

Are you telling me you have a shortage of gym leaders? My dragon type leader team dreams to be used again for it's originally intended purpose, so I would like to present my candidature if possible. I doubt anyone will mistake my ace ironically, without altaria the biggest weakness of the team are oposing dragon types...

I have been creating multiple teams for an oncoming tournament that requires the knowledge of DPPt OU, BW OU, and all tiers of ORAS from Ubers to NU. Unfortunately, nobody plays old gens anymore so i cannot know if those teams are viable. Can you give me some tips? DPPt teams: nº1 BW teams: nº2 ORAS OU teams: nº3 nº4 nº5 nº6 nº7 nº8 nº9 ORAS UU teams: nº10 nº11 nº12 ORAS RU teams: nº13 nº14 nº15 ORAS NU teams: nº16 Because of the size of the topic, I hope you will forgive the lack of images. If you have an idea to improve the teams, put the number of the team and comment it. Thank you.

i join

ill look at it

tiny hint, try using counter on the chansey, physical attackers will never try to attack him again

it has turned into a wornadam, and it makes an x8 fire weaknes+dry skin. the difference being that he has only 1 HP due to being a transformed shedinja. and it's even worse if we get out crazy and take a huge power fire type with 255 base atk on the sun with two helping hands and two flower gifts from two cherrims in triple battle, using a fire clone of rollout on his last turn with defense curl combo boost, with the maxed-out metronome item and maximum boosts and crit, all against a mon with all four fire weak types (via forest's curse and an ice/steel/bug clone of it), with base 1 hp and defense, -6 defense and dry skin. not merely fainting, the target of THAT and all in about 500 miles apart would be reduced to ashes and a giant smoking crater

worse: use a shedinja who not only has had get hit by forest's curse and given dry skin, but also has used Transform into a wornadam in the steel form as the target

to the one who said it. since when empoleon is sub-par? scald, defog+stealth rocks support, nice sdef, unyque typing... he is a nice wall. since XY he has been my main defogger, and he has never deceived me. also, if we copy the smogon tiers, which is even the point for players to use our server and not go into the main one? it was better when whe had our own tiers...

RIP my old friend, you gave me the chance to confront good weather teams and learn to predict when all other servers banned them and turned pokemon in a boring stall-forever-or-sweep-in-10-turns game. i hope the showdown server follows your star and becomes the home of all us forever... (or at least until smogon gets finnally deposed and closes his forums and simulators)

i suggest for "glitched world" to become an official terrain paired with "virtual world" with every 80+ BP move switching them (you know, hitting a computer has a tendency to either glitch it or somehow fix the glitch)

tiny problem, the server has the tiers of smogon by default, we should fix it

it could be funny, i will think wht i can do...

it only reflects status conditions, but the ghost type is now immune to all types of trapping (bar Pursuit)

Team Showcase Wanna talk about, or ask for help with your in-game team? This is the place to do it! i thinks the topic is well-placed...

I open this topic out of nostalgia, we all started as a newbies on the competitive world with teams... less than competitive. this is the topic to show them with no remorse and remember the days where we didn't know the meaning of IVs and EVs, and we tought natures were only for contests... this was mine (six years have passed, and it's still on a special box in Diamond), this is a recreation, natures and EVs were random. Flygon @ Choice Scarf Ability: Levitate - Draco Meteor - Earthquake - Iron Tail - U-turn Dragonite @ Life Orb Ability: Inner Focus - Dragon Dance - Stone Edge - Outrage - Earthquake Empoleon @ Choice Specs Ability: Torrent - Hydro Pump - Blizzard - Flash Cannon - Drill Peck Kingdra @ Haban Berry Ability: Sniper - Draco Meteor - Hydro Pump - Surf - Waterfall Venomoth @ Black Sludge Ability: Shield Dust - Poison Powder - Sleep Powder - Stun Spore - Signal Beam Blaziken @ Leftovers Ability: Blaze - Substitute - Focus Punch - Fire Blast - Rock Slide which one were yours?