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manaphy doesn't have any egg moves though it's a legendary.... it can breed but phione cant evolve to my understanding. I guess i should not speculate manaphy not getting any additional moves like it did in gen 5 but the big reason why manaphy had been uber was because of its ability which has been nerfed drastically this gen. The purpose of this was to at lest shed some light into that so people will at lest consider moving it down to OU which i am glad that it has done. Thanks Summah <3

While the auths have been busy with league and make the next episode of the reborn game, I have been laddering pretty hard over the past three weeks in the new gen 6 competitive scene. I have to say that the new Metagame is a huge improvement to the last one with a lot more versatility in OU and with the diminished role of weather. With that said however I would like to propose a change that would further benefit the ladder experience which is to get Manaphy moved down to OU. Even in 4th gen I had always been puzzled as to why manaphy had been deemed uber in smogon just because it had gotten access to heart swap. Certainly the people who used it in uber at the time never wasted a move slot to fit heart swap even while researching why there were no real good explanations besides Kyoger getting permanent rain hence making it Uber material. In the advent of gen 5 there was definitely a strong case to keep in Uber. First it now had access to tail glow and second there was now a rain initiator which could make rain last permanently in OU as well. However once we move into the gen 6 meta - which is filled with extremely fast Pokémon and the extinction of perma-weather and near elimination of politoed – Manaphy no longer retains the edge that it had in the previous generations. Manaphy 4 OU 2013 Movepool Manaphies offensive move pools consist entirely of Surf/Scald/Hydropump, Ice Beam, Energy ball and Hidden Power. This means that when facing a manaphy the is relatively little to no element of surprise as it will virtually always be a special attacker (in contrast to Jirachi and mew which could be physical or special attackers) and depending on which of those moves a person decides to run it is not hard to find Pokémon that wall it such as grass Pokémon or water Pokémon. This new gen has also brought a lot of special defensive walls such as Florges, Sylveon and Goodra. In addition to all of this there is also an item called assault vest which exclusively boost sp defence making manaphy that much less of a threat. Manaphy also has access to rest but with the huge nerf on rain its ability hydration is no longer that good. Tail glow is good but its speed does not allow it sweep entire teams. Base Stat Same base stat as Jirachi, mew, and celebi. 100 in every base stat. Not uber material! Effects on meta We might actually see a rain team but they are still way to UP. There is mega-t-tar but no mega politoed and sun and hail have 2 other initiators (hail even gets mega abamasnow) while rain can only be summoned by politoed. No reason to believe that rain will become as dominant as last gen if manaphy is introduced. Balance Look at the above. Anyways I hope you read everything before you comment. I know there are already a lot of people who do not like the idea of manaphy being lowered to OU but I feel like we should at lest test it out. It would only take 3 minutes to implement and a week at most to decide if OP or not. Thanks for taking your time to read everything J

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<3 u 2 i told you to get rock Pokemon because your team was really weak to talonflame and really hampers your blazakin's ability to sweep.

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should be called non-OU awareness club.

hello there welcome :] I always used to pick the fire starter too till gen 5/6 when i picked the water types because they looked better. Also Typhlosion with 3d glasses is 10/10 and you got me on the 3 :< but anyways hope you enjoy your stay

Alright just wanted to make sure that tier discussion would not only be limited to auths. @Ryan yes the way we have done tier changes in the past are not that efficient but the malice was definitely not limited to the non auth members. Also you can say the auths have maybe the same amount of knowledge in the gen 6 meta but definitely not "much more". back on topic gen 6 leader sprite looks cool.

^ this I mean its only been less than 3 days and your already announcing big changes. Also i think tiers should not only be looked by auth but by everyone who choses to participate in ladder. We already had a pretty stale meta for the past year and a half are so i think it would be better that we have tier changes more frequently and in a more structured manner than before. Maybe that should be the real discussion. tl;dr putting tier in exclusively in auth hands is not a good idea as seen in the past :]

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