Kamina

Sign ups official begin! If the people who posted before this would edit their post to say "Ayee" at the end that would make things run more smoothly that would be appreciated. TO spice it up anyone who enters with a valid teams and competes in tour will get 10 rupees from me (ik thats not a lot but im poor) Winner will get 500 rupees and second place will get 250 (its coming from me :c) I hope you all can participate!

signups only start at 7 pm EST silly. And i am Kamina for people who might not have known c: The tiers are going to be from reborn http://www.pokemonreborn.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=408 And for people who do not live in EST http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/eastern-time/

Happy birthday bro c:!

im all for it Your Awesome too :'3 we should mono more! i got some more teams c:<. Also you forgot about Conor's comment.

Summer ily c:. your the first person i met on reborn .

O_O Is it weird that I have seen that movie already (I am Indian). Just be prepared for random dances....

ahh brings back old memories c;. Though atm i have completely forgotten about the OU meta game in gen four :c. (Personally i like the physical infernape with overheat a tad bit better because moves are more accurate c:) Still the synergy in team seems good so i will give it a 3.141592/ (pi)

its not even a threat in LC Anyways my Pikachu in NU is Haunter UU and BL - Hounchcrow OU - Genesect LU- hippopatas LC- Meditite Uber- Arceus

Could you give more specific examples? Also thank you touma for expanding on what i said earlier :3

I feel the need to elaborate where i stand a little bit more. First of all i am not whining because Double Team/Minimize is preventing me from winning. I was still able to make it to top 2 without having any problems with evasion. The reason why i hate it so much is because it is poisoning out meta game and forcing competitive players to run Drizzle in order to counter. And to people who think this is a publicity stunt (lmao) its not. More people have started hating me from expressing my opinons about the metagame than liked me. As for the amount of people who abuse it i don't see it being much of an issue because as long as someone does than everyone will always have to prepare for it if they want to play here competitively. now @ baka 1. What is a surprise taunt 2. What does sand have. How can i elaborate on clear smog any more? Sub counters it period. And taunt does not have perfect accuracy so you cant call it as a check to evasion. 3. What is you bases for your argument that CS has a harder time dealing with Weather than non rain team does on Evasion?

I am sorry if it sounded like i was flaming i definitely did not intend for it to be that way. That log was only used because Ryan C said (Paraphrasing) that "If you do not have something to scare away those pokes than you might need some help. It just seems a bit hypocritical that he does not follow his own advice and i see nothing wrong in pointing that out(though i do agree i should have worded it differently). And that one log was only to prove that he did not follow his own guide (though it was not the first time) And substitute does unfortunately shut down clear smog as much as one would wish it did not and every evasion team runs one so i don't see anything wrong with pointing out flaws. (every bp team has sub in it) Also just because the tiers are they way it is does not mean it is without flaw. And i think i have explained my self clearly. Rain is only viable counter to evasion abusers. you mentioned taunt leads but if opponent knows that you are going to taunt they will switch into espeon. Of corse you can predict it but they only way i see that is having a chand in team and by than your only building a counter to a specific team @ Neo i dont see how that implies that i am the Authority in competitive battling and if they are no longer competitive than they dont know much about the recent meta. as for last part not bad.

>>implying most of the people in reborn play competitively

We used rain team. We don't think that forcing people to use rain teams to make it to the top is healthy for the meta game. And again if you asked people who were actually in the server if they liked evasion most of them would say no. If it was not horrible i would not be making a big deal out of it. And that was a battle between me and Ryan.

Plus 6 evasion makes 100 percent accuracy moves the same as sheer cold? you would be extremely luck to hit 2 times in a row Too bad clear smog cant go through subs "And this leads me to my final point for now: just stop it before it gets worse. You'll probably be able to spot a Passing team from a mile away. You think that there'd be something fishy with a Blaziken, Lopunny or Jolteon lead, or something that gets the Speed up and passes it away. And if you don't have something that can scare away those Pokemon, then...your team might need some help" http://pastebin.com/4QXh56VX Pretty much it seems like you do not follow you own advice. But i don't blame you at lest you know (deep down inside) that they are not viable. (yes my name was ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ) And could you explain how evasion makes reborn what it is? i have already refuted it but you still seem to repeat it.

Well i am tired of all these threads closing because there is someone who cant come up with any points and decides that if he/she flames than they all of a sudden have more validity. I will ignore anyone who flames unless they can reword what they are saying in a more respectful manner. Thread should not be closed because one person is too immature.

How mature of you. keep flaming i am sure it will make your point look more valid ツ

You lose to crep once you have points in the 1400 that is an automatic -30 points right there. I would argue that because not a lot of people use it makes it much more of a problem to build counters to it because its just unpractical unless you use rain. Of course someone can make it to the top using sand, they would just have to rely on luck every time they faced Evasion. @Baka you said it yourself the reason why pokemon are not OU is because they are outclassed or are walled by a majority of the pokemon. the only way agaist bp is to taunt but it does not have perfect percent accuracy and can be magic bounced

I just listed those because people usually say that if you want to counter evasion use the moves above. As for drifblim and mr mime they are an essential part of bp team as drifblim is the only bper with minimize and mr.mime is the only bper with soundproof So far the only teams that can make it to the top are rain teams (CB t-tar only for creps team) since they have access to strong perfect accuracy moves and politoed with haze isn't that un viable. And it doesn't matter how many people abuse evasion the fact that people can means that you always have to be prepared for it weather it be crep or some random person who feels like abusing it. As for you last statement i would appreciate it if there be no flaming just an honest discussion

well it was never resolved

not a bad team Ludicolo Modest------->timid Out speed dem scarf genesects 4 sp def evs on azumaril to make genesect raise its attack Other than that i would say its a pretty darn good team. I barely beat it because of dat 1 hp xp.

Evasion? Forces people to use rain team to viably counter in OU. Taunt---------> Can be evaded and/or bped to espeon which almost every evasion team has Perish song --------> Taunted or baton passed to Mr.Mime magical leaf/ariel ace -------> never going to help outside evasion and probably wont even break a sub Aura Sphere------------> Bp to drifblim Haze ---------> can be taunted and not many viable pokemon in OU which can learn it without effecting their usefulness Coil------> no OU poke learn it (except serp which is only OU because of contrary) Hone claw ------> drifblim used clear smog (sadface) No gaurd ---------> only OU pokemon to learn it is machamp inb4 run odor sleuth

Long time no see Sign me up!!!!!! : D

Politoed Refresh-----------> toxic Most of the time a poisoned politoed is not detrimental since you only have it in for one round to get up the rain up. Tornadous Grass knot---------> sleep talk dem brelooms and focus blast already counters t tar + everything else rupe already said ps. Rupe the Ampharos is really pretty :'c

bonjour! have nice stay evasion op

D: This team make me rage so badly! Too many OP pokemon in UU D: Anyways on to the team... it is very good! I personally would be to Replace amolomola with Jeiicant pre evo since it can spin block and its typing is good and with evolite it can still tank phisical moves though you seem very attached to alomaloma. rate (very good/10)