Kamina

just a little bug but in the wall of fame if you click on Fruitjuice's name you get shifted to kingos account.

Analytic--------------> Trace Trace is a better ability for a defensive Proygon 2 due to the fact that you can usually use your opponents Pokemon ability against them. i.e absorb thundorus-t electric moves or heatrans lava plume. Analytic is a waste because it is almost always better to paralyze Pokemon first and than to finish it off in-case they switch Pokemon. other than that not that bad!

Nice monotype! But since it is flying I recommend a Xatu somewhere to bounce back hazards which could be a problem to team. Otherwise not that bad

Happy b-day

Agree with vex that this rmt is cute! Although idk how you think glalie is cute d:. Go with bidoof!

Could you than explain to me how substitute counters bright powder? You do no even know if a person had bright powder unless you miss!? In the log you had ice punch miss than close combat crit the second turn. If you didn't crit it still would have killed you. And what was wrong with my last part?

--Drifblim uses minimize-- j/k kinda rotom-h uses discharge

viable pokes in cs or any other weather besides rain to counter evasion= only haze xatu because its move pool isnt that much effected with haze (lose heatwave/ reflect depending on team so its going to still be very detrimental) and it cant be taunted and is somewhat playable in OU Other than that you are forced to use rain in ladder if you want to counter so gl with that. Not really :/. I dont want to make this an evasion debate but reborn game wasn't made into what it is by this stuff but by the fact that it is a community server. Most people don't flock to reborn because their tiers are so darn good but because its a community server. Its not going to hurt reborn at all if they also made it fun for competitive battlers as well. Thankfully koga didnt baton pass minimizes to other pokes and he also didn't have access stored power back than and had only poison type Pokemon. Also you could have over leveled you Pokemon and than beaten him as well. To bad now there's a lot of more moves that complement minimize making it more viable and you also cant heal or give your Pokemon x accuracies in pokemon online.

wow such a nice solid team! Besides the threat list i cant find many other pokes that can effectively counter your team! nice job on another RMT!

steel weakness!? do all 6 of my Pokemon need to have a fighting move? personally i never had any problems with steel types [half my Pokemon know a fighting move and 1 knows a ground move] or stall for that matter. much appreciated if you were more specific.

hmm not a bad league team! as the people have already mentioned above you have a big weakness to water/fighting type Pokemon also you team needs a tad bit more Pokemon with moves that hit more than one target to help in doubles and triples here are a few of my humble suggestions Conculdurr ( i know i butchered its name) stone edge ---------> Ice punch ice punch has better coverage than stone edge and is also more accurate. Also in general you team doesn't have many attacks that would hit multiple opponents so you might have trouble in doubles or triples Also as mentioned above water/fighting types seem to make huge dents in your team but i think if you play your cards right they should not be a problem( i.e Keldeo can be killed after an energy ball and a mach puch) and the gurlock has to go >;[ idk what poke to replace though

on Genesect 4evs HP --------> 4evs Attack Thunderbolt ------> Gigadrain yah you already get ice beam and it has the same coverage as thunderbolt [besides water which giga already counters and regains health and also demolishes water/ground pokes] Will help against ~Rotom-W ~Gastrodon ~Swampert ~water/grass ~Water/Rock ~Heals up hp so that it can take another attack from opponents! '^' And if you have an odd number of hp than you take less damage from Stelth rocks and it will make your u turn a tad bit stronger Personally will-o-wisp ------> sunnyday just a personal preference but it will help you even more to win weather war and ninetails is not that bulky so a will o wisp miss can be costly other than that a pretty good team P.S. just make sure to predict your opponents with scarf terrekeon '^'

Count me in

it was over yesterday and i won :c. i used ----> Maybe all the confusion is coming because the topic in the server hasn't been changed yet D:.

Shiny Hariyama. Back than i was not aware that shiny Pokemon existed except for the red gyradoes in second gen so i killed it because i thought it was glitched :[

seems good. Earthquake from krokodile is going to kill all of you Pokemon though in triples. although in singles, this team seems great! 9/10

aww already have ace membership But yay! As for tier ideas i dont think it would hurt to have a brief testing period. Ban Evasion

I am in! (dont pass-out D:)

if anyone else wants to battle me using Kyerum-B and OU i will be glad to do so. Alt i will be using is MeatyOwlLegs and pm before you battle so I know i promise i wont use weather or Kyerum-B. but you guys can.

@renowner Thank you for you imput! When i was doing the damage calcs i was doing it under the assumption that people would be running the choice scarf sets which is why all those pokemons that i calculated would out speed scarf kyerum - B in the first place. As for base 95 speed, i don't think there is one ou sweeper that without a priority would not be able to out speed it Kyerum-B without a scarf and with a scarf i already gave a list of extremely common pokemon in OU that with priority or weather could one hit ko Kyerum-B with after taking initial stelth rock damage [ while completely ignoring other scarfed pokemons or sashed sweepers which would also be able to get the job done] As for its defensive stats and Hp you have to also take into consideration its bad typing and common moves like stone edge, focusblast, close combat and draco meaeor and weakness to hazards in general and its inability to out speed most OU sweepers. The reason why a pokemon like Kyoger is Uber and not OU is due to the fact that it has a very good move pool and its typing is also not that bad and its ability to summon rain all at the same time. Thunder watersprout and ice beam hit almost every typing with super effective damage and a full health water sprout in rain will do a ton of damage to even a ferrothorn. I dont know any priority move or a weather initiator that could one shot a kyoger. meanwhile Kyerum-B typing makes it weak to a bunch of priorities and to weather abusers as well [mentioned earlier]. I agree that Kyerum-B could potentially demolish pokemon in the Uber tier but that is not explaining why PO is considering moving it to UU and why almost no one in their OU or Uber ladder are actually utilizing it. Thank you for taking you time to post though! If you have more to add about Kyerum-B i would like to read about it .

252Atk Blaze Blaziken (+Atk) Hi Jump Kick vs 0HP/0Def Kyurem Black (Neutral): 112% - 133% (440 - 522 HP). Guaranteed OHKO. 252Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom (+Atk) Mach Punch vs 0HP/0Def Kyurem Black (Neutral): 72% - 84% (282 - 332 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO. 252Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor (+Atk) Bullet Punch vs 0HP/0Def Kyurem Black (Neutral): 82% - 98% (324 - 384 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO. 252Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill (+Atk) Iron Head vs 0HP/0Def Kyurem Black (Neutral): 75% - 89% (296 - 350 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO. 252SpAtk Sniper Kingdra (+SAtk) Draco Meteor vs 0HP/0SpDef Kyurem Black (Neutral): 112% - 133% (440 - 522 HP). Guaranteed OHKO. 252SpAtk Sniper Kingdra (+SAtk) Dragon Pulse vs 0HP/0SpDef Kyurem Black (Neutral): 72% - 85% (284 - 336 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO. 252SpAtk Ludicolo (+SAtk) Focus Blast vs 0HP/0SpDef Kyurem Black (Neutral): 62% - 73% (244 - 288 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO. 252Atk Terrakion (+Atk) Close Combat vs 0HP/0Def Kyurem Black (Neutral): 109% - 129% (428 - 506 HP). Guaranteed OHKO. Its typing makes it weak to steel/rock/fighting/dragon and theres more than enough of those moves to stop it on its tracks. The above shows just a few of the common pokemon used in OU after stealth rocks that are garunteed to one hit ko and out speed the scarf varients. the Non scarf would have even more counters like jirachi, kledeo, special landorus ect... As for pokemon that can completely wall Kyerum B if its running choice band/scarf there is gliscor/ Skarmory/ ferrothorn/ foretress/ any ground pokemon if it is stuck on fusion bolt. I dont see the sub roost dragontail being much of a problem at all to deal with. Dragon tail will always go last [and wont do much damage anyways] and with its bad typing i do not see it being much of a hasstle. Also as i pointed out in the beginning its not even being used that often in PO OU which does not even allow blazakin/ exadrill and the swift swimmers. http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?17728-Suspect-Discussion-Kyurem-B

yes maybe in the first half of what i wrote i might have not provided any solid evidence as to why Kyurem-B should be banned besides saying that we are not jumping into the bandwagon but i thought the second part was more focused as to why we should actually demote Kyurem-B by movepool, Base Stat, effect on meta game and balance. If there is any suggestions on what i should specifically add that would be appreciated. I have a feeling this time is different (i hope)

So it has been a long time since I have posted a thread about making some changes to the tier system that we have atm and they have not gone that well and usually resulted in getting out of control and name calling and such. So before I put down ideas I would like everyone to have an open mind before writing things down in the comments and try to make them as intellectual as possible and not something like Just recently Kyerum-B had been demoted to UU in PO and they are starting to have a debate over whether it should be kept there or not. According to their statistics, Kyerum-B was only being used in about 3.5% of all the OU matches in PO and it begs to question as to why we ourselves have not at least considered moving kyerum-B to OU. Now before you guys come out and say that we do not like modeling ourselves after smogon and PO well I only have one thing to say and that is that we were the guys who always embraced different types of pokemon in our OU that no other place had done before like allowing deoxys- speed/ blazakin/ exadrill and swift swim. It seems inconceivable that just 5 months ago that we would ever ban a pokemon to Uber which PO and Smogon are now considering for UU. I have already mentioned earlier that Kyerum-B has only been used in 3.5% of all the OU matches in PO and in my time in reborn I only remember a 2 ubers ladder matches in reborn that actually used Kyerum-B. If Ame can find the official statistics and post it that would be nice! Im willing to bet reborn rupees that its less than 1% of every match Why Kyurem –B should be moved down! Movepool- For a dragon/ice type that specializes in physical attacks its move pool is quite limited. The only physical stabs that it has access to and that are viable are Outrage and Dragon Claw. Outrage has a lot of power but it has a lot of downsides with it. The only physical stab ice move that Kyerum-B can learn freeze shock but that move takes 2 turns to use. Also unlike other dragon Pokémon, it can’t learn dragon dance so its sweeping potential is quite limited. Its other powerful physical move is Fusion Bolt and coupled with Dragon claw/Outrage does not have good coverage at all. Base Stat- I know this is the reason why most of you guys think that he should be in Uber is because of its huge attack stat but as I already mentioned his move pool is extremely limited and its speed stat is sub-par compared to even other OU sweepers. Marowack has an even bigger attack stat with thick club yet we do not just automatically cry uber when we see it because its speed stat is not that good in OU and the same goes with kyerum-B in Uber and OU. Effects on metagame – Well it’s another toy to play with. I could theory craft all it would bring but as we can see in PO it’s not even used that much in OU. Even so it should be demoted to OU because of the reasons stated above and for all we know a bunch of people could start using it in ladder. Kingdra with dragon pulse, exadrill with iron head, Ludicolo with focus blast, blazakin with high jump kick, scarf terrekeon, bullet punch scizor, mach punch Breloom all of which are extremly common in OU already counter every kind of Kyerum-B there is. ferrothorn/ Gliscor/foratress can also tank any more that kyerum-B tries to dish at it. Balance – limited move pool makes it easy to counter as well as its dismal speed stat. also its typing makes it take a ton of damage from stelth rocks which almost everyone runs on their team nowadays. Lets make it OU (~ ^ _ ^)~. I am open to discussion as long as it stays intelligent. Thank you all for reading and I would like to see what you guys think about it.

air balloon electross uses flame thrower! [air balloon isn't an ability so mold breaker doesn't negate it!]

air balloon pikachu used hidden power ground.