DeletedAccount1800 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I have never lost these many gym battles. Her first two Pokemon (double battle) are able to wipe out my whole team. The most reliable ones I have are:- Blaziken Alakazam Typhlosion Noivern Krookodile Gengar Nidoking Muk Aggron Slaking Hawlucha Zoroark Even though my Typhlosion is 5 levels above hers, she still seems to be way faster and has higher attack. ( my typhlosion's nature is serious) I can't seem to beat a single Pokemon of hers. Please help me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VividGrey Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 The harshest thing about her battle is the field effect. If you can manage to change it then you can beat her with a rock type and probably your Krookodile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity04 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I personally used a Piloswine with Blizzard, just soft reset until the quick claw pops and a good water or rock type will handle the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edo Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 best strats against her would be - Rain Dance - Wide Guard - Trick Room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennylava Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Are your Mons EV trained at all? Like others have said, changing the field effect helps a lot. Your Alakazam should have access to Psychic Terrain if I recall. Should also be faster than both her leads if you have EV trained it. What are your move sets? Moves like Fake Out are really strong in double battles, her team is quite frail so Fake Out gives you an opportunity to clear out her faster Mons if you have a strong rock or ground move. I.e starting Fake Out user + Earthquake/Rock Slide user.. you get the point. Using status moves like Paralyzing a weaker mon in Doubles while focusing on the other helps. Setting up Screens will help out a lot, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman Jaggi Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, Edo said: best strats against her would be - Rain Dance - Wide Guard - Trick Room Eruption/Heat Wave works great too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edo Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Gentleman Jaggi said: Eruption/Heat Wave works great too. Yeah you're right, that strategy is pretty neat as well. But is it possible to catch a mon that learns those moves when you're stuck at the circus? Also not sure if Wide Guard would be obtainable at that point, and if you skipped the gang quest Rain dance isn't available, either. From those, Trick Room might be the only consistently available strat for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennylava Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Edo said: Yeah you're right, that strategy is pretty neat as well. But is it possible to catch a mon that learns those moves when you're stuck at the circus? Also not sure if Wide Guard would be obtainable at that point, and if you skipped the gang quest Rain dance isn't available, either. From those, Trick Room might be the only consistently available strat for everyone. If you got a Stunfisk I think you could trade your way to a Vulpix with Heat Wave? I'm not sure, though. I forget if Salazzle learns Heat Wave on it's own, or is it just Flamethrower? Other than that I can't recall other Fire types available at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edo Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Siv said: If you got a Stunfisk I think you could trade your way to a Vulpix with Heat Wave? I'm not sure, though. I forget if Salazzle learns Heat Wave on it's own, or is it just Flamethrower? Other than that I can't recall other Fire types available at that point. both only learn it from the move tutor and/or breeding also I think you need Rock Climb to get Salandit, so it's not available that early. But you could catch Bronzong on Route 3 with Heatproof and Rain Dance, or a Mienfoo for Wide Guard, so those are actually possible either way Edited May 22, 2020 by Edo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennylava Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Edo said: both only learn it from the move tutor and/or breeding also I think you need Rock Climb to get Salandit, so it's not available that early. But you could catch Bronzong on Route 3 with Heatproof and Rain Dance, or a Mienfoo for Wide Guard, so those are possible either way You just need to get rid of the Crustle blocking the cave when you get to the bottom to get Salandit. Nothing else is needed. But if it needs the tutor it doesn't matter anyways. I keep reading around the forums that there's a chance the Vulpix you get traded has Heat Wave on it. Never tried it, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edo Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 53 minutes ago, Siv said: You just need to get rid of the Crustle blocking the cave when you get to the bottom to get Salandit. Nothing else is needed. When I tried last time I couldn't get there without loosing the Rage powder over that shaky rock, is there another way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Node15 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Wide Guard Mienfoo works really well since Charlotte will pretty much always try to use Eruption or Heat Wave with her Typhlosion. I then recommend using an X Speed on your Typhlosion give it Eruption and the next turn you have a chance at wiping away her leads especially if you have a Charcoal equipped. From there it should be easy to sizeably dent the rest of Charlotte's team and if Drought is up then you'll probably OHKO. Blaziken can also act as good support because within a couple turns it can outspeed her team that Typhlosion weakened and most likely they won't be able to target your Blaziken and Typhlosion due to Typhlosion's Flash Fire negating their spread moves. Edited May 22, 2020 by Node15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennylava Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 55 minutes ago, Edo said: When I tried last time I couldn't get there without loosing the Rage powder over that shaky rock, is there another way? You have to surf around inside the mountain so you come out at the big waterfall near Amaria's house. So you need to have created the shortcut into the mountain with the crustles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Node15 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Wow, I love your ingenuity and it's awe-inspiring what a creative way to get Salandit before beating Charlotte how did you come up with it? Edited May 22, 2020 by Node15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Right first off if you are broke just capture some pick up mons and use them while you grind/Ev train mons up. cause pick up mons can pick up useful stuff and you save a lot from not needing to buy so much potions and repels. You will need bronzong with heat proof ability. let it learn trick room and capture a boldore from the ruby caves evolve it to gigalith relearn rock slide and sand storm,swap ability to sand force. Turn 1 bronzong use trick room and Gigalith use sand storm. Turn 2 gigalith rock slide everything and anything you see. crustle,carracosta and golem as back up will help.prefer using carracosta and crustle they both learn rock slide with leveling.Move set items of mons mentioned are in spoiler tag.Hope this helps. as for grinding spots well u can spam kill crustle if u have a good water type and not completed all the crustle puzzle at route 1. or the clown at agate circus. Bronzong-Route 3 Boldore- Ruby cave Crustle-Route 1 Tirtouga- puzzle at agate circus Graveler-Ruby cave TLDR: Trick room,wide guard should help and the mons aroud route 3 and Ruby cave are useful. you do not need to ev train them properly for now but in the future you will need to for other gyms as the other gyms have perfect Ev spread. To Ev train Atk EV kill mons in Route 1 during morning. To train Hp Ev surf in mountain and kill wailmer. Spoiler Gigalith@Smooth rock Ability:Sand Force Nature:Adamant/Brave(if possible if not any nature will do as long as it does not boost speed or minus atk) EV:252 Hp/252Atk/4 Spdef Rock slide Sandstorm Explosion Stone Edge Bronzong@Amplified Rock(if possible if not there is no need for this item) Ability:Heat proof Nature:Adamant/Brave(if possible if not any nature will do as long as it does not boost speed or minus atk) EV:252 Hp/252SpDef/4 def Gyro ball Explosion/payback Extrasensory Safeguard/Heavy slam Crustle@Hard Stone/Stone Plate Ability:Sturdy Nature:Adamant/Brave(if possible if not any nature will do as long as it does not boost speed or minus atk) EV:252 Hp/252Atk/4 Spdef Rock slide Rock wrecker X-scissor Shadow claw Carracosta@Hard Stone/Stone Plate Ability:Sturdy Nature:Adamant/Brave(if possible if not any nature will do as long as it does not boost speed or minus atk) EV:252 Hp/252Atk/4 Spdef Wide Guard(wide guard can be useful vs charlotte as she might spam heat wave,Eruption and lave plume) Rock slide Curse/Aqua tail Crunch Golem@wide lens Ability:Sturdy/Rock Head Nature:Adamant/Brave(if possible if not any nature will do as long as it does not boost speed or minus atk) EV:252 Hp/252Atk/4 Spdef Explosion Stone Edge Earthquake Heavy slam/double edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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