Deleted User Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 I'll pretty this post up a bit more later, but I want to get it out ASAP since we're trying to get this show on the road.Competitors must use 1 Pokemon from each of the following tiers: OU UU RU NU PU NFE/LC (User choice) The matchups will be as follows: ✓ Kingdom of Avalon ↔ Amazon Nation (6 - 1) Skeleton vs Swampellow ✓ ✓ Void vs Rupe ✓ Wendel vs Zumi ✓ Jericho vs Bazaro ✓ Chimchain vs Bluewolf ✓ DavidPWNs vs Sparky ✓ Swimming95 vs Drymus Replacements: Avalon: Spineblade, Secundum, TRHStatement -- Amazon: Dobby, Infernape88, Honchy Gaia Nation ↔ The Ravenholts (5 - 2) Dark Desire vs Kamina ✓ ✓ Marcello vs Tacos Roswell vs AuthorReborn ✓ ✓ DW vs IntSys ✓ pyrromanis vs Cool Girl ✓ pbood2 vs Mikzal ✓ Dragon116 vs Trevo Replacements: Gaia: finkeltinklewinkle, ICSW, Sheep -- The Ravenholts: Cronos5010, Captain Breakfast, Jacobliterator Nation of Atlantis ↔ Phantom Vulcan ✓ (2 - 5) 99 Losses vs NovaKnight ✓ Lobos vs mar_mar ✓ ✓ FraRPetO vs YinYang ✓ Lugruf vs Azery personthing vs 2tousent ✓ Morshu vs DJWongTong ✓ K_H vs Reiginited'Light ✓ Replacements: Nation of Atlantis: Sonic, Inno, DerogatoryTrainer -- Phantom Vulcan: Simon, Jelly, Bagel LEADERS: Please send me your SEVEN participants as soon as you are able. Once I have the contestants for all 6 nations, matchups will be randomized and posted here. To Victory!DISCLAIMERS:1. Please check the showdown tiers for a pokemon listed as LC or NFE. If it is listed as another tier like Pawniard is in NU, it will not be permitted.2. Ditto is not acceptable as a PU pokemon because it's form alters it to a potentially MUCH better pokemon with no real drawbacks.*Thanks Zumi for awesome logo!
pbood2 Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 First up Jeri, love the logo for Pokenations 2. Lastly, let the fun and tearing each other apart begin ;P
Fumble Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 well rip ditto, xerneas, and primal groudon and rip arceus too I guess since it's not limited to just normal :> rip us in general
Sheep Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 DISCLAIMERS: 1. Arceus WILL be permitted, provided it's holding a plate to make it one of your nations types. (Or your nation has Normal) 2. Ditto is not acceptable as a PU pokemon because it's form alters it to a potentially MUCH better pokemon with no real drawbacks. 3. Abilities that create permanent weather effects are not permitted. (Desolate Land, Primordial Sea, Delta Stream) 4. Geomancy is not permitted.
Chase Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 GET DUNKED ON, DITTO-.... oh wait, I'm not competing. Nevermind.
Deleted User Posted May 22, 2016 Author Posted May 22, 2016 GET DUNKED ON, DITTO-.... oh wait, I'm not competing. Nevermind. Why the fuck not? >:c
pbood2 Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 Clearly, because I missed sign-ups. :C No excuse sir. As said by Jericho on the main post of Signups: Perfect! The initial sign up period will go until Thursday May 19th, but you can still sign up at any time, ohoho. OH and please do remember, should you abandon your teammates, your soul will belong to me. For eternity~ So get on it and have some fun.
Exalted Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 so what the hell is the limitations bordeline tiers or nfe thier
Commander Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 so what the hell is the limitations bordeline tiers or nfe thier BL = OU aka what tier it can be played in since BL isn't a tier (just shift it up from the BL) NFE = PU since they are pretty bad and that's as low of a tier as they can go (some NFEs are given a tier iirc) That's just a logical guess given how tiers work.
Sheep Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 NFE = PU since they are pretty bad and that's as low of a tier as they can go (some NFEs are given a tier iirc) Yeah logic dictates if it's something like Piloswine it'd be NU rather than PU, 'cause it's like... in NU.
Deleted User Posted May 22, 2016 Author Posted May 22, 2016 BL = OU aka what tier it can be played in since BL isn't a tier (just shift it up from the BL) NFE = PU since they are pretty bad and that's as low of a tier as they can go (some NFEs are given a tier iirc) That's just a logical guess given how tiers work. Correct on BL NFE is not allowed unless it's like Fletchinder which is considered RU, or Pawniard which is NU? something to that effect.
AuthorReborn Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 The only Pokemon that aren't fully evolved (NFE) that have tiers outside of PU, where most reside, are Chansey (OU), Pory2 (UU), Doublade (UU), Gligar (UU), Fletchinder (RU), Golbat (RU), Sneasel (RU), Togetic (RU), Combustken (NU), Ferroseed (NU), Piloswine (NU), Rhydon (NU), and Scyther (NU), just in case anyone is wondering.
Shadow Tack Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 Possibly Relevant Question, Species clause since some megas are only in higher tiers for their mega such as beedrill and Mpidge?
Sheep Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 I'd imagine the way that it works is that you could use your PU slot for Pidgeot or your OU slot for M-Pidgeot but not both at once.
Ojama Yellow Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 possibly stupid question, but are you allowed to use a mon that is in a lower tier than the slot you want it to fill? for example, instead of an OU and an UU mon, is it possible to use two UU mons instead?
IntSys Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Petition to ban all Ubers, ggCome on, just deal with it. You guys have, like, thrice the amount of Mega-threats that we have here. Drill harder and you'll see plenty of ways to counter M-Gengar.(Also no I'm not gonna help you beat us.) Edited May 22, 2016 by IntSys
Cobalt996 Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) I'd assume the LC tiers are all in PU, unless indicated as being in another tier, as with NFE. Edit: (In reply to Nick, down below, since I'm too lazy to post again) As much as I like to make the competition tough, I cannot support P-don coming back in. Simply put, within your competition's available Pokemon, there is no viable counter to P-don aside from Toxic. Forcing (most likely) 2-3 slots of a team to counter just P-don is asking quite a lot. If you were against Flying or Dragon, I would think the ban should be lifted. Geomancy... I'm on the edge about. Smeargle having it? Sure; even if BP allowed speed/attack to pass, it takes time, and that is penalty enough. Xerneas... still has viable options (LO, Scarf, Belt). The fact it HAS viable options outside of doubling half of its stats is what's frightening. Not that I ever use Geomancy on it in Ubers. Not reliable enough. The problem with Geomancy Xerneas is the segregated typing restrictions, which effectively tell you whether or not specific counters can exist on any given team. Gengar-M being banned? If the balancing in our favour truly places your nation in such a position that it's... basically the same deal as with P-don, but reversed, then yes, it should be banned. No one Pokemon should force a team to have multiple counters specifically for it. However, if there exists a reliable way to take it out without harming the overall build of the team, it should be left in. Edited May 22, 2016 by Cobalt996
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