Gym Leader Help Thread

[Blazeheat91]

@ The anti Fern: There is no prism scale atm, no ralts atm, and yes exp.share is in the game go back to amethyst cave where melia clothing was brought during the joltik battle. Click on the clothing and you will get a ID Card. Go back to the lab, where you got you're first starter and click one of those monitors to open the door and you will get you're exp.share.

In order to beat angie i advise you grind you're whole team of pokemon to lvl 55.

The team i used to beat her was:

Crobat(Lvl55) Adamant nature

Acrobatics (Perfect for abomasnow since its super effective and does hella dmg+ she will use up all her hyper potions, only has two. I used crobat first btw.

Confuse ray(Perfect for froslass, Glaceon, Aurorus) since it outspeeds them)

Machamp(Lvl 55) Adamant nature + Fist plate item for power boost for fighting types can be found via mining rocks

Cross chop(One hit shot that manoswime)

Vital throw(Never misses btw.)

Pikachu (Lvl 55) Modest Nature

Thunder wave to slow down froslass, walrein

Nasty plot

Thunderbolt

Hitmochan(Lvl 55) Adamant nature + Black belt item + Iron fist as hes ability to power up fist moves

Mach punch(goes first btw)

Thunderpunch(super effective against walverin)

Delphox (lvl 55) Modest nature

Sunny day(To stop that hail thing + Decrease ice dmg as well)

Flamethrower

Psychic

Greninja (lvl 55) Adamant nature lel

Surf

X scissors

Smackdown

Bounce

Had to switch ampharos, torrera out of my team because they was useless+slow+ getting hit shot by cold truth. So made a couple adjustments in my team. Btw if you want to grind easily go to the ship with that girl, who has audino who dont attack. With this team i beat her easily to be honest. Hopefully this help people to beat angie, She is by far the hardest gym leader imo. Good luck

Edited April 29, 2015 by Blazeheat91

[pointblankerror]

I'm facing Valarie!

Cofagrigus Lv40
Item: Spooky Plate
Ability: Mummy

Nature: Gentle
- Shadow Ball

- Will-O-Wisp
- Curse
- Ominous Wind

Ampharos Lv 42

Item: None

Ability: Plus

Nature: Bashful

- Discharge

- ThunderPunch

- Thunder Wave

- Confuse Ray

Torterra Lv 44

Item: Quick Claw

Ability: Overgrow

Nature: Lax

- Leech Seed

- Rock Smash

- Earthquake

- Razor Leaf

Greninja Lv 44

Item: None

Ability: Protean

Nature: Sassy

- Bounce

- X-Scissor

- Smack Down

- Water Shuriken

Swoobat Lv 43

Item: TwistedSpoon

Ability: Unaware

Nature: Lonely

- Calm Mind

- Psychic

- Air Slash

- Future Sight

Hariyama Lv 41

Item: None

Ability: Guts

Nature: Mild

- Belly Drum

- Seismic Toss

- Force Palm

- Vital Throw

In my PC:

Liepard lv 44 (It's pretty weak, so I'm probably not going to use it)

Item: None

Ability: Limber

Nature: Naive

- Fake Out

- Slash

- Assurance

- Night Slash

Mawile Lv 32

Item: None

Ability: Intimidate

Nature: Quirky

- Vice Grip

- Feint Attack

- Baton Pass

- Crunch

I have $14400 and I have an Ability Capsule, a couple of heart scales, and a grass gem (items that could be useful for the battle)

[noob swag]

i need help with kakori gym. cant figure out the damn puzzle

[Shing]

Firstly you gotta go to floor 1 and move 1.1 away from the left. My reason is that 1.1 should be left last of all.

1. Go first to floor 3 and move to the 3.1 left first.

2. Get floor 2 and move 2.1 to left same as moving and teleport. You need the P3 (i think) for activate the floor to move.

3. Get floor 0 to go left place by activating P1 (i think)

4. Then go down and move floor 1 to left.

5. So go up back to floor one and jump there and the web will break and that's the end.

Note: Always check when you're in room end with *.1 check that you can't go another room in the left. It's really important.

Also fun fact. If you did move 3.1 and 2.1 to left and you jump from 2.1, you can get stucked in floor 4.

Only if you have activated all the panels.

Thanks to Letskillup for this one. About the panels and floor etc.

The building is initially arranged like this:

_ 0 _

1.1 1.2 1.3

2.3 2.2 2.1

3.2 3.1 3.3

4 Panel 3 Panel 1

room room

The rooms that the web can be broken are 2.1, 3.1 and 4.

• First break 2.1 web by moving room 1.1 and 2.1 to the center, teleport to the top and drop from 0. This should allow you to go to 3.1, currently closed.
• Teleport to the top and jump once more and this should break 3.1 getting you access to panel 3 that allows you to move this room. Teleport to top and reset.
• Dont move anything and drop your way down to room 3.2, go to 3.1 and move it to the right so it goes : 3.3 3.2 3.1 and drop, it should go to panel 1. Activate so you can move 0. Teleport to top and reset.
• Drop to 3.2 again and move 3.1 to the left. Teleport to top. Drop to 2.3 and move 2.1 to the left. Teleport to the top. Use the control panel in 0 once to move it to the left. it should look like this i think.

0 _ _

1.1 1.2 1.3

2.1 2.3 2.2

3.1 3.3 3.2

4 Panel 3 Panel 1

room room

This should drop you to to 4, break that web and get you to the gym leader.

[Red_Chaos]

Only if you have activated all the panels.

Thanks to Letskillup for this one. About the panels and floor etc.

The building is initially arranged like this:

_ 0 _

1.1 1.2 1.3

2.3 2.2 2.1

3.2 3.1 3.3

4 Panel 3 Panel 1

room room

The rooms that the web can be broken are 2.1, 3.1 and 4.

• First break 2.1 web by moving room 1.1 and 2.1 to the center, teleport to the top and drop from 0. This should allow you to go to 3.1, currently closed.
• Teleport to the top and jump once more and this should break 3.1 getting you access to panel 3 that allows you to move this room. Teleport to top and reset.
• Dont move anything and drop your way down to room 3.2, go to 3.1 and move it to the right so it goes : 3.3 3.2 3.1 and drop, it should go to panel 1. Activate so you can move 0. Teleport to top and reset.
• Drop to 3.2 again and move 3.1 to the left. Teleport to top. Drop to 2.3 and move 2.1 to the left. Teleport to the top. Use the control panel in 0 once to move it to the left. it should look like this i think.

0 _ _

1.1 1.2 1.3

2.1 2.3 2.2

3.1 3.3 3.2

4 Panel 3 Panel 1

room room

This should drop you to to 4, break that web and get you to the gym leader.

once i get to this line i aways end up on the 4th floor instead of panel 1 room. :l

[Shing]

once i get to this line i aways end up on the 4th floor instead of panel 1 room. :l

Try and restart the floor.

If this doesn't work, sorry for the mess you had to go through.

[Bruh]

Do any of you all know where the move relearner is? I need sucker punch on my honchkrow for the deoxy.

[Zumi]

Do any of you all know where the move relearner is? I need sucker punch on my honchkrow for the deoxy.

i believe they're in sheridan if i remember correctly. I don't think this is something you should post in this topic though but rather in the general discussion topic, so when you have questions like this i think you need to ask it in the main topic next time! :V

[Shing]

Do any of you all know where the move relearner is? I need sucker punch on my honchkrow for the deoxy.

You get the move relearner after you have done the kristine city help requests as Jan did say once iirc.

Edited May 3, 2015 by ShingSt

[Red_Chaos]

where is a good place to train for angie or im a forced to kill swinubs? that do not get alot of exp

[berlyda]

where is a good place to train for angie or im a forced to kill swinubs? that do not get alot of exp

There's the breeder on the boat at Terajuma Shore who has an Audino around level 45.

[aregularyoutuber]

Sorry for spelling mistakes did the pokemon names of the top of my head mostly the only irrelevant pokes are spelled wrong

Leader: Crawli

Feraligatr LVL 49

None

Naive(speed+ spd-)

Sheer force

Ice fang

Crunch

Slash

Surf

Used for crustle and if im lucky vespiqueen

Delphox LVL 50

None

Hardy(changes nothing)

Blaze

Psychic

Will-o-wisp

Flamethrower

Cut

Houndoom LVL61

Smoke ball

Jolly(speed+ spa-)

Flash fire

Flamethrower

Foul play

Embargo

Crunch

Note: hes only not listen to me 1 time out of 7 tries vs the gym leader but some how cant 1v1 galvantula(30 spa iv and 125 put into spa)the reason i wanted jolly is because no dark pulse and the ghost gym needed to be beat

Used for anything that needs to die but galvantula

Tangrowth LVL 56

Miracle seed

Adamant(sadly att+ spa-)

Regenerator

Grassy terrain

Wild charge

Ancient power

Giga drain

Used for Vespiqueen and grassy terrain

Shedinja LVL 39 in training(and yea its that serious)

None

Jolly(speed+ spa-)

Wonder guard

Metal claw

Bind

Dig

False swipe

Note: Gets paralyzed by galvantula so toxic spikes doesn't do anything

Used for everything but Yanmega vespiqeen and volcarona

Greninja LVL 50

None

Hasty(speed+ def-)

Protean

Substitute

Extrasensory

Surf

Smack down

Note: how the f*/8k i mean how is it possible that he gets out speed by volcarona I cant wrap my head around it even max speed jolly I should out speed with 10iv and 150 speed evs easily considering my 2 level advantage

Used for vespiqeen scolipede if needed via shedinja somehow fainted

My main problems on the leaders team is volcarona and yanmega everything else is either stopped cold by shedinja or killed by water/fire moves

Box:

Honchkrow LVL 47

Sharpedo LVL 50 adamant speed boost but dies to everything

Weezing LVL 49

Machoke LVL 38 in training

[Red_Chaos]

There's the breeder on the boat at Terajuma Shore who has an Audino around level 45.

yes, but how do i get out of the gym then?

[Milotic]

yes, but how do i get out of the gym then?

You have to chase angie up the stairs, then once you are on the top floor where the gym battle happens, go up the stairs towards the Dimensional Rift

[Shing]

Sorry for spelling mistakes did the pokemon names of the top of my head mostly the only irrelevant pokes are spelled wrong

Leader: Crawli

Feraligatr LVL 49

None

Naive(speed+ spd-)

Sheer force

Ice fang

Crunch

Slash

Surf

Used for crustle and if im lucky vespiqueen

Delphox LVL 50

None

Hardy(changes nothing)

Blaze

Psychic

Will-o-wisp

Flamethrower

Cut

Houndoom LVL61

Smoke ball

Jolly(speed+ spa-)

Flash fire

Flamethrower

Foul play

Embargo

Crunch

Note: hes only not listen to me 1 time out of 7 tries vs the gym leader but some how cant 1v1 galvantula(30 spa iv and 125 put into spa)the reason i wanted jolly is because no dark pulse and the ghost gym needed to be beat

Used for anything that needs to die but galvantula

Tangrowth LVL 56

Miracle seed

Adamant(sadly att+ spa-)

Regenerator

Grassy terrain

Wild charge

Ancient power

Giga drain

Used for Vespiqueen and grassy terrain

Shedinja LVL 39 in training(and yea its that serious)

None

Jolly(speed+ spa-)

Wonder guard

Metal claw

Bind

Dig

False swipe

Note: Gets paralyzed by galvantula so toxic spikes doesn't do anything

Used for everything but Yanmega vespiqeen and volcarona

Greninja LVL 50

None

Hasty(speed+ def-)

Protean

Substitute

Extrasensory

Surf

Smack down

Note: how the f*/8k i mean how is it possible that he gets out speed by volcarona I cant wrap my head around it even max speed jolly I should out speed with 10iv and 150 speed evs easily considering my 2 level advantage

Used for vespiqeen scolipede if needed via shedinja somehow fainted

My main problems on the leaders team is volcarona and yanmega everything else is either stopped cold by shedinja or killed by water/fire moves

Box:

Honchkrow LVL 47

Sharpedo LVL 50 adamant speed boost but dies to everything

Weezing LVL 49

Machoke LVL 38 in training

If that houndoom can kill almost everyone except for galuvanta, use greninja or delphox for kick it's the galuvanta ass.

If you can't defeat the volcarino, hm... Just do with same with greninja for houndoom for level and it would be faster lol.

Honestly i can't find a pokemon so can defeat the volcarino except of houndoom.

[berlyda]

I'd recommend using the Weezing, assuming it knows Destiny Bond (it learns it at level 46). Weezing can definitely take a hit from Volcarona/Yanmega, so you can take at least one of them down easily. Both if you have a Revive.

[aregularyoutuber]

destiny bond doesn't work trust me ive tried and it can take a hit and have a explosive counter attack

[CrazySheriff]

Hello there,I am having trouble with the 5th gym battle(the water type).

I am not really into searching for new pokes/breeding/new items so hopefully someone can give me tips or strategy based on my team. I am having the most trouble with lanturn I think(I pretty much manage to kill around 4 of his team)

MUK lvl 42. -minimize,venom drench,gunk shot,sludge bomb

SUNFLORA lvl 43. -petal dance,sunny day,leaf storm,solarbeam

ZEBSTRIKA lvl 43 -pursuit,spark,discharge,stomp

GRENINJA lvl 45-bounce,x sci,smack down,water pulse

JUMPLUFF lvl 39-lech seed,mega drain,acrobatics,rage powder

and other stuff:

CORSOLA lvl 45-brine,iron defense,power gem,rock blast

TOXICROAK lvl 46-sucker punch,zen headbutt,revenge,mud bomb

COFAGRIUS lvl 38 power split,willowisp,ominous wind,curse

also have mawile(39),blaziken(45),pangoro(42) and torkoal(44)

[Peytonatto]

[[Narcissa]]
--Your current team--
[Carbink] | [39]
[N/A]
[Clear Body]
[Relaxed]
- Flail
- Reflect
- Stealth Rock
- AncientPower

- I used Carbink vs Marianette, mainly to combat the Toxic Orb Swellow. I liked it's stats so I left the EXP share on it and started using it in my main team. I usually use it first for Stealth Rock and try to knock down Narcissa's Gengar some with AncientPower.

[Pangoro [ironFist]] | [40l]

[black Belt]
[scrappy]
[Mild]
- Circle Throw
- Karate Chop
- Body Slam
- Crunch

Pangoro is my damage dealer. I use Circle Throw to cycle out the enemy's Pokemon and deal some damage with Stealth Rock. He's not very good against Gengar, so I try to save him for later.

[Fearow] | [37l]

[None]
[Keen Eye]
[Docile]
- Pursuit
- Aerial Ace

- Mirror Move
- Agility

Isn't a very good Pokemon for me. I just don't really have anything to replace Fearow at the moment. It was good for Keta and Keta 2.0 but now I feel like it is just outshined by the rest of my team. I have some Pokemon that could replace it but I'm not so sure.

[Vileplume] | [40]

[Miracle Seed]
[Chlorophyll]
[bold]
- Acid
- PoisonPowder
- Mega Drain
- Moonlight

Vileplume has been very solid me throughout the game. It helped me vs Keta and Marianette, but isn't doing too hot vs Narcissa. I'd like to keep it in my team if at all possible.

[Charizard] | [40]

[Quick Claw]
[solar Power]
[Docile]
- Wing Attack
- Dragon Rage
- Flame Burst
- Rock Smash

My starter. Dragon Rage was really good early on, but Pokemon are starting to have more and more health so it's effectiveness is decreasing. It's doing well against Narcissa, usually takes out Rotom & Doublade.

[Helioptile] | [23]

[EXP Share]
[Dry Skin]
[Jolly]
- Quick Attack
- Mud-Slap
- ThunderShock
- Razor Wind

I recently got the Helioptile from the Casino place. I put it in my party to train it up while I was facing the gym, since I already had accepted the fact that I would have to face Narcissa multiple times without winning, so I might as well benefit some from it.

The Pokemon in my box are..

Ekans, 5 & 15 | Shadow Sewaddle, 12 | Pidgeotto, 24 | Woobat, 14 | Spritzee, 16 | Meditite (My first Shiny!), 13 | Natu, 14 | Torkoal, 28 | Houndour, 15 | Teddiursa, 25 | Skitty, 20 | Herdier, 22 | Bibarel (HM Slave), 27 | Bonsly, 19 | Mr. Mime, 22 | Murkrow, 26 | Hitmonchan, 35 | Litleo, 18 | Frogadier, 29 | Vanillite, 19.

Some items I have: Smoke Ball x1, TwistedSpoon x1, Soothe Bell x1, Spell Tag x 1, Poison Barb x1, Zinc x1, TM05 Roar, TM08 Bulk Up, TM42 Facade, TM94 Rock Smash, HM01 Cut, X Attack x1, X Speed x1,

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Zumi]

[[Narcissa]]

--Your current team--

[Carbink] | [39]

[N/A]

[Clear Body]

[Relaxed]

- Flail

- Reflect

- Stealth Rock

- AncientPower

- I used Carbink vs Marianette, mainly to combat the Toxic Orb Swellow. I liked it's stats so I left the EXP share on it and started using it in my main team. I usually use it first for Stealth Rock and try to knock down Narcissa's Gengar some with AncientPower.

[Pangoro [ironFist]] | [40l]

[black Belt]

[scrappy]

[Mild]

- Circle Throw

- Karate Chop

- Body Slam

- Crunch

Pangoro is my damage dealer. I use Circle Throw to cycle out the enemy's Pokemon and deal some damage with Stealth Rock. He's not very good against Gengar, so I try to save him for later.

[Fearow] | [37l]

[None]

[Keen Eye]

[Docile]

- Pursuit

- Aerial Ace

- Mirror Move

- Agility

Isn't a very good Pokemon for me. I just don't really have anything to replace Fearow at the moment. It was good for Keta and Keta 2.0 but now I feel like it is just outshined by the rest of my team. I have some Pokemon that could replace it but I'm not so sure.

[Vileplume] | [40]

[Miracle Seed]

[Chlorophyll]

[bold]

- Acid

- PoisonPowder

- Mega Drain

- Moonlight

Vileplume has been very solid me throughout the game. It helped me vs Keta and Marianette, but isn't doing too hot vs Narcissa. I'd like to keep it in my team if at all possible.

[Charizard] | [40]

[Quick Claw]

[solar Power]

[Docile]

- Wing Attack

- Dragon Rage

- Flame Burst

- Rock Smash

My starter. Dragon Rage was really good early on, but Pokemon are starting to have more and more health so it's effectiveness is decreasing. It's doing well against Narcissa, usually takes out Rotom & Doublade.

[Helioptile] | [23]

[EXP Share]

[Dry Skin]

[Jolly]

- Quick Attack

- Mud-Slap

- ThunderShock

- Razor Wind

I recently got the Helioptile from the Casino place. I put it in my party to train it up while I was facing the gym, since I already had accepted the fact that I would have to face Narcissa multiple times without winning, so I might as well benefit some from it.

The Pokemon in my box are..

Ekans, 5 & 15 | Shadow Sewaddle, 12 | Pidgeotto, 24 | Woobat, 14 | Spritzee, 16 | Meditite (My first Shiny!), 13 | Natu, 14 | Torkoal, 28 | Houndour, 15 | Teddiursa, 25 | Skitty, 20 | Herdier, 22 | Bibarel (HM Slave), 27 | Bonsly, 19 | Mr. Mime, 22 | Murkrow, 26 | Hitmonchan, 35 | Litleo, 18 | Frogadier, 29 | Vanillite, 19.

Some items I have: Smoke Ball x1, TwistedSpoon x1, Soothe Bell x1, Spell Tag x 1, Poison Barb x1, Zinc x1, TM05 Roar, TM08 Bulk Up, TM42 Facade, TM94 Rock Smash, HM01 Cut, X Attack x1, X Speed x1,

Thanks in advance for your help.

I'd say try training Houndour, train it to a Houndoom (it evolves at level 24) and get it to learn a few dark moves. It learns Bite at level 16 and Beat Up at level 25, and Feint Attack at level 35 as a Houndoom (or 32 if you keep him as a Houndour until then). It might help you out. Herdier learns Crunch at level 24, plus it's immune to ghost type attacks, so you could consider training that one as well.

You could do that and it might work out well, but I haven't tried out using these pokémon myself, so please take everything I said with a grain of salt! I just hope it might work out in your favor :V

[Milotic]

[[Narcissa]]

Thanks in advance for your help.

Looks like its time for some team recostruction my friend.

Drop: Carbink, Fearow, Vileplume, Helioptile(If you want to)

Replace: Frogadeir, Mareep(For Helioptile), Deerling, Murkow/Houndour (You are gonna have to train them, use the breeder outside of Amethyst Cave)

Refer to the location guide to find these pokemon. My reasoning: Greninja should be able to take care of chandelure and its a dark type, Ampharos parafusions her whole team (Literally how I won), I heard Swasbuck does well vs her Mismagius/Dusclops with leech seed and horn leech plus its a normal type. Honchkrow/Houndoom can be good back ups and supporting dark types.

Hello there,I am having trouble with the 5th gym battle(the water type).

I am not really into searching for new pokes/breeding/new items so hopefully someone can give me tips or strategy based on my team. I am having the most trouble with lanturn I think(I pretty much manage to kill around 4 of his team)

You have a jumpluff lol you spam leech seed, stun spore, and sleep powder and win.

[CrazySheriff]

You have a jumpluff lol you spam leech seed, stun spore, and sleep powder and win.

I tried but I got pretty much instakilled with ice beams from her team members,and I dont have any revives. And no,I dont have stun or sleep powder on it.

[Frostilicious]

How i beat the gym leaders. Venam: You can get a vivillon (learns psybeam on 17-18 and is immune to field.), (maybe butterfree, but vivillon is better), noctowl (evolve hoothoot to 21 and use common candy), woobat (not best option but still not bad). You could also try and get a Dustox if you want but idk about that either.

Keta: Any flying type pokemon+Vivillon's draining kiss for ghost keta owns him. Best if you have 30 lvl emolga (sweeps with acrobatics). Also a swoobat ain't bad.

Marianette: Hmmm, well, haven't ever tried to set up on her. I made sure i had pokemon that could stall out her slaking/swellow with fake out/protect (so they take unecessary/free dmg) and pokemon with priority moves such as sucker/mach punch. Also hitmonlee/medicham owns with High Jump Kick.

Narcissa: Get a vileplume, teach it nature power. The end. (Boo, kidding ) It helps way too much tho, especially if you stall Mismagius/Dusclops with stun/sleep powder. But it can pretty much sweep her team for the most part. As for chandelure get a protean Greninja -if possible- and ware it down with smack down/water pulse combos or straight out water pulse. (Now that field has probably been nerfed tho, idk, my Houndoum's beat ups did a lot more dmg (even 6HKOed Gengar in 1 go ).

Valarie: Get a pokemon that can stun her first pokemon and let it die to have a free switch. Have a swoobat (preferably) or vivillon and max their stats (may take a while but pays off).

Crawli: Greninja. Nothing else needed. Surf to destroy his crustle and smack down to demolish his bug/flying, bug/fire pokemon.

Angie: Her Abomasnow is physical attacker, so boost up a fighting pokemon with bulk ups. (I did it with Infernape. Results=Wunderfool ).

[Shing]

Hello there,I am having trouble with the 5th gym battle(the water type).

I am not really into searching for new pokes/breeding/new items so hopefully someone can give me tips or strategy based on my team. I am having the most trouble with lanturn I think(I pretty much manage to kill around 4 of his team)

MUK lvl 42. -minimize,venom drench,gunk shot,sludge bomb

SUNFLORA lvl 43. -petal dance,sunny day,leaf storm,solarbeam

ZEBSTRIKA lvl 43 -pursuit,spark,discharge,stomp

GRENINJA lvl 45-bounce,x sci,smack down,water pulse

JUMPLUFF lvl 39-lech seed,mega drain,acrobatics,rage powder

and other stuff:

CORSOLA lvl 45-brine,iron defense,power gem,rock blast

TOXICROAK lvl 46-sucker punch,zen headbutt,revenge,mud bomb

COFAGRIUS lvl 38 power split,willowisp,ominous wind,curse

also have mawile(39),blaziken(45),pangoro(42) and torkoal(44)

Keep greninja, sunflora, jumpluff(train that up), and maybe cofagrius(Train that too). And either blaziken or pangoro for lapras.

It seems that lanturn will give you some problems.

Catch a wooper/quagsire and grind it and it will learn earthquake both on level 36.

it will get rid of the threat so can sweep your team.

Grind the pokemon from the breeder at the boat in terijumika shore if you didn't know.

Edited May 6, 2015 by ShingSt

[NikeSB]

I beat the 5th gym leader (Jasmine I think, the water gym leader) By catching a Nincada right outside Terajumera Shore and evolved it into a Shedinja with Dig, Facade, and two other useless moves. Any pokemon with a status effect use them and switch to Shedinja and spam Facade due to it not being able to be hit by any of her pokemon.