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1854 -- Don't bark at me. As a cat I can HM01 you.
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Correct. For regular Steel types it doesn't really change anything, but if she wants to, she can use a Steel/Fairy without fear of Fire, leaving Ground as the sole weakness. Pretty cool, considering Skarmory, Scizor, Ferrothorn and anything with Air Balloon don't bother much with Ground type attacks. However, nothing stops her from using a Rain Dance Bronzong with Amplifield Rock. It also boosts Empoleon, as it will hit back with SE damage. Empoleon is a highly likely pokemon for Titania to have, as it will show influence from Amaria.
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Against Scizor, yes. Not against Klefki or Mawile.
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1854 -- entering troll mode
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Praise The Sun... and Moon - Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon
NickCrash replied to Godot's topic in Pokémon Fan Club
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Subject of the Day = Gen4 Everywhere you looked back then, there was Metagross, Snorlax and Salamence. What kinds of strategy did you employ back then? If you had any special movesets or EV spreads, feel free to share. We might make a tourney around that so it's good to prepare as many as possible.
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Viri probably means to discuss teambuilding and general battling strategy for previous gens, as even now tournaments include matches in tiers from previous generations. For example, the international championship (in which Kamina participated), they played in GSC OU, Gen4 OU, and BW OU, so it makes sense there is an archive that envelops the battling environment of the past. For that reason I made a separate thread you are all welcome to join and discuss, and we could even start with Gen4 and probably also speculate where the new pokemon additions would be, if no mechanics were changed. This means no Megas, no Z moves, no new abilities after gen4. Returning to the topic of Azelf, it can be seen in HO teams, but what can it do in Balance or even regular bulky Offense? I have not experimented with it yet (all attempts lead to failure), but I cannot find proper offensive cores that are not outclassed by already existing ones (even though those I thought of included a mega). If we are going to go back to the M-Gallade & Bisharp combinations, then I can also see Conk and Mence return from the UU universe to properly demolish them.
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It's only a month before a wild Gen7 appears and officially startles the waters, and pokemon for 20 whole years has become part of our lives. For some of us, who are around 20, it was a significant part of our childhood. We grew up watching the cartoon, playing the game, or even buying the trading cards. I personally went out of my way, saved some money and bought a Trading Card cartridge because other children my age never were that interested, and given our lack of knowledge of the English language back then, non-hardcore fans of the franchise hardly bothered. In fact I'm still struggling to find girls interested in the game, but that may be due to the device being labeled as "Game BOY" thus alienating them. Ahem! Anyway, after a while we all more or less wanted the extra challenge and discovered the competitive feature. Back then, sure we were Australo-apes whose go-to motion was "Drop EQ every day, ba dum dum -insert Snoop Dogg song here- ". Then the game was improved with COLOUR, natures, split evolutions, revised and re-revised type charts, physical and special splits, and lot's of other features that ended up to the way it is now. As we move forward, fields will become more prominent, perhaps special moves with double types will also dominate the game, and cute as well as broken stuff will come and hopefully disappear after their debut. But I'll ask you to hold on a second and before jumping into the hype bandwagon of the new generation, to appreciate what's come before it. This thread is a sanctuary for people who want to relive and discuss about previous gens, as if nothing ever changed. Naturally, we won't become Genwunners or GenFOUR-SHO but here is the place to discuss and openly debate on strategies viable in the previous generations. This is a place of respect to those metagames. Now, for completion's sake, we can talk about any generation, but I doubt there is high demand for Gen2,3 as they were not the big icons. If anyone is interested, they should not hesitate. I just don't believe many people were so deep into the game back then. Gen1 gets special treatment because of how broken the game was back then, and how hillarious-ly effective certain tactics are. So for everyone still interested in delving back into the magic of the old days, when still children we were amazed by the game, this is the place for you.
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1803 we were compromized!! Code Panther. I repeat, code panther!!
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Steel types, master race. It is a bit weird that it's partnered with those two, but it's the team that's built this way. Notable mention is also M-Sableye. The pokemon is still in my list to use but it still looks one-dimensional to me. Perhaps others would find out more ways to exploit its high speed and offenses. Time will tell. On another note, Magneton has risen in usage in UU, even if for just a bit.
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We will not go deep into EVs, IVs and Teambuilding in this thread, because it could go off-topic quite fast (especially for teambuilding). We will however make similar threads in the future. I plan on making a couple of teambuilding workshops and so on, but next month because right now I'm working 12h a day. Check the already existing threads, and visit Bulbapedia, Serebii or PokemonDatabase. They present their data in different ways, but they are all concise. The ou-0 shows all pokemon used, unweighed. The ou-1500 shows the general usage weighed, and that's the one they use to determine usage stats. The final one is what's used mostly in high ladder, but it doesn't change much because of how the math is made. I currently don't remember and since I am from mobile I can't properly search it. You should check the ou-1500 (I believe I had a link in the OP for that, may need to update at some point). Anyway, back to the topic. The most noticable change as of September is Azelf rising up to OU. Now, many would claim it's due to a specific team archetype becoming even more popular nowadays, and with how open smogon is to all readers, I end up seing the same freaking Azelf (+Shedinja+Duggy) 1/6 times, which is insane. Sure the others are less useful, and Azelf has been a nice suicide lead since BW, but it had dropped from grace a while ago. Pyrrhon had made a nice team at some point that utilized Azelf's speed and offensive capabilities, but apart from that it's one-sided. So what are your thoughts on the pokemon? Will it stay and dominate the metagame like my waifu Tangrowth did , or drop to the same hell it came from like Swagsire?
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I thought he meant the raw info from smogon's stats, where scrolling is pretty much instant given OU has ~70 mons.
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M-Mawile would be an absolute beast on this field. The witness is yours Commander.
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We scroll. It's a word file after all. The tiers you refer to are threatlists. The most popular one, OU, dictates that pokemon that have 50% chance of appearing at least once in every 20 battles in a tier, belong to that tier. The % of that is roughly 3.41% so if you take a look at the usage stats, everything above that point is considered to belong to that tier. The other tiers in descending order are the ones that follow OU and are: UU, RU, NU, and PU. All official and the same rule applies to them. One can use any pokemon from a lower tier but not from a higher one, because they usually break the metagame and cause problems like overcentralization. The Ubers tier, even if it's a tier higher than OU, is mainly a threatlist where everything that would unbalance OU is put. It's more centralizing due to its nature, but it still obeys to certain rules. AG is the highest one and where no rules exist, so if you want to play with huge power gaps, that's where you go. The tiers OU, UU, RU, NU, PU all follow the same clauses allowing for movement of pokemon through those tiers based on usage (high usage on a higher tier to rise, low usage to drop) and are constantly changing (even if the changes are usually minor) because the tendencies in the metagame are changing. The division does not mean you wouldn't see a specific pokemon in a higher tier; it merely tells you it's unlikely. Mainly the pokemon are put in their respective tiers based on their general appearance and ability but that's not always the case. Certainly, most OU pokemon would be game-breaking in a lower tier (and that's why you have large BL areas - banlists for lower tiers) but others could constantly rise and fall without major repercussions to the game's balance (like Mamoswine, Zapdos, Starmie, Celebi, Conkeldurr, Amoonguss, and Azelf do between OU and UU). Their presense to a certain tier may exploit their unique niche which becomes popular a certain time period so they rise (Azelf), they work as good checks or counters to certain threats (Amoonguss to Keldeo), or they drop in popularity and go to the next tier (Quagsire). Make sure to visit Reborn Showdown! and check the Teambuilder to gain first-hand knowledge of the subject. Create your own teams and join the fun