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Do boss mons have EVs more than 252 or IVs more than 31?


Fiasom

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What I'm trying to understand here is the mechanics of the game.

 

So I'm fighting Ghost Keta. I use my Floatzel to take down his Donphan no problem. Next he throws in his Lapras; my Floatzel is in a pinch and will go down to one move, no questions about that. But I should be able to hit that Lapras without using a priority move since Floatzel is faster than Lapras by far. I use Tail Slap, but Lapras uses Body Slam first and KOs the Floatzel.

 

My lvl 25 Floatzel has 16 IV and 26 EV for speed at this point, granting it a speed stat of 68 (neutral nature). I check on showdown teambuilder, and a lvl 24 Lapras with a perfect speed IV of 31 and perfect speed EV of 252 plus a speed boosting nature, at maximum gives the Lapras total speed stat of 61. So how the f**k does his Lapras out speed my Floatzel? (There are no relevant field effects in place that will help the Lapras out speed the Floatzel.)

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7 minutes ago, Fiasom said:

What I'm trying to understand here is the mechanics of the game.

 

So I'm fighting Ghost Keta. I use my Floatzel to take down his Donphan no problem. Next he throws in his Lapras; my Floatzel is in a pinch and will go down to one move, no questions about that. But I should be able to hit that Lapras without using a priority move since Floatzel is faster than Lapras by far. I use Tail Slap, but Lapras uses Body Slam first and KOs the Floatzel.

 

My lvl 25 Floatzel has 16 IV and 26 EV for speed at this point, granting it a speed stat of 68 (neutral nature). I check on showdown teambuilder, and a lvl 24 Lapras with a perfect speed IV of 31 and perfect speed EV of 252 plus a speed boosting nature, at maximum gives the Lapras total speed stat of 61. So how the f**k does his Lapras out speed my Floatzel? (There are no relevant field effects in place that will help the Lapras out speed the Floatzel.)

Quick Claw maybe?

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6 minutes ago, Lord Drakyle said:

Boss fights are meant to be a challenge.

Challange is one thing, impossibility is another. What is legal in this game? That Lapras cannot outspeed my Floatzel legally. Reborn is using PULSE mons to give them extra EVs, I get that. Hard challenge. This is something different. I need an answer to whether I need ridiculous gimmicks to win the battles, or can I actually focus on building a proper team?

 

Otherwise - given that quick claw isn't available yet - I know to grind on the Noibats around till I get 252 speed EVs on my Floatzel. Or, since the time sunk to grinding isn't worth it, quit the game.

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2 minutes ago, Fiasom said:

Challange is one thing, impossibility is another. What is legal in this game? That Lapras cannot outspeed my Floatzel legally. Reborn is using PULSE mons to give them extra EVs, I get that. Hard challenge. This is something different. I need an answer to whether I need ridiculous gimmicks to win the battles, or can I actually focus on building a proper team?

 

Otherwise - given that quick claw isn't available yet - I know to grind on the Noibats around till I get 252 speed EVs on my Floatzel. Or, since the time sunk to grinding isn't worth it, quit the game.

There is nothing impossible about the fight.

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Just now, Lord Drakyle said:

There is nothing impossible about the fight.

There is something legally impossible about that Lapras outspeeding my Floatzel. What are the mechanics that make that possible?

 

Otherwise of course f*king of course there is nothing impossible about the fight, I've beaten in my previous runs. I want to know what the reigning mechanics are.

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Just now, Fiasom said:

There is something legally impossible about that Lapras outspeeding my Floatzel. What are the mechanics that make that possible?

 

Otherwise of course f*king of course there is nothing impossible about the fight, I've beaten in my previous runs. I want to know what the reigning mechanics are.

i literally just told you, the Lapras may be holding a Quick Claw an item that can randomly make the holder's attack have a much higher priority and therefore go first

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1 minute ago, Clearly Sus said:

Did you Floatzel get hit by bulldoze? It lowers the speed stat

Aye I think that's what happened. Stupid me. I'm drunk. I ought to delete this topic now.

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5 minutes ago, pizzagod13 said:

I just checked if you were -1 speed the lapras would speed tie you even with 0 Speed Evs. It would need max speed IV and nature tho. If it had some Evs in speed it would always outspeed you.

 

And just as I was typing this a crit by the Floatzel on the Donphan changed the course of the battle and I won. FTS.

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