Aislin Li (Alili) Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Hey guys! First time poster here!^^ I actually have not completed a single official pokemon game, and this is my first fangame. While I'm playing on Casual mode, the difficulty has caused me to go, and figure out things like natures, EVs and IVs as well as I can to make sure my team can survive up coming battles...and I actually love it. The last pokemon games I tried to play as a kiddo were 1st and 2nd gen...so getting caught up with all the new stuff and enjoying all the fanmade content has been AMAZING. Infact, I hope to post a review/let's play hopefully soon, and am...5 badges in and about to face Crawli. (Note: To help, I have the newest version of Rejuvenation available as of...like...last week or two ago.) That said... Shiny Bug...? Not sure what else to call this...? I try to look through the threads to get an idea of what shinies look like what so I know which to hunt...and a few of them don't match up...? Screenshots are in the thread. Shiny Arcanine's eyes are Black instead of Gold like Growlithe's...? Which is odd since I'm p sure the artist posted an updated Arcanine alongside the Growlithe...? The worst offender though... is poor, POOR Lycanroc... Midday Lycanroc is almost entirely the same shade of brown instead of light lime green...he looks quite muddy. Boi needs a bath. IDK if the other lycanrocs have this problem since I have not see their shinies in game...but GOODNESS. X'D That's all I've noticed there though.^^ Questions; "Missing" TMs...? Ok... So I caught a baby noibat back before I even faced Venam...If I post my review/Let's play, you'll get the details... but I am VERY attached to my baby girl, and used rare/reverse candies so she could Evolve into Noivern to help me out with Crawlie's gym. So, since U-turn seems to be an important factor in, like, every Noivern build I can find... I figure that it's likely important and I should get it. Checked the location guide linked in the FAQ...no U-turn. Found 2 TMs lists...both say it's not availiable. BUT, like...some of these lists contradict with other lists I've seen... (Like...one list said you could buy Happiny from a black market dealer...?) So IDK how up to date they are...but it get's WEIRDER... ...Because Low-Sweep, Dazzling Gleam, and others. Which is SUPER WEIRD TO ME since I lost to Geara in the Jungle the first one or two times due to a Gengar who knew Dazzling Gleam...which Gengar can only learn by TM...but the TM apparently doesn't exist...? Even WEIRDER tho is that wild pokemon have moves they can only learn by TM TOO. Like...almost EVERY seedot, nuzleaf, mankey, drowzee, aipom etc I've encountered have had LOW SWEEP, and they are WILD pokemon who usually only learn that by TM...? (I mean...then again... I have a Wild Macargo I caught a few days ago who has Strentgh Sap...a move he should not be able to learn at ALL...) So I figured that, like...since the weak elemental monkies in Gearan City have Low-Sweep...maybe the missing TMs have been reprogrammed as egg-moves...? So I checked Echo's (My Noibat/Noivern's) Egg move stuffs by taking her over to the move re-learner after hunting down a heart scale, and...no luck. Got Hurricane, another move recommended for Noivern builds...but no U-Turn. So DO these TMs exist or don't they...? Did the wild pokemon get to them first? Breeding for Moves...?; My starter, a Decidueye named Bowwie, DID get U-Turn as an egg-move. I got it from the heart scale lady...and since Noibat and Noivern can learn it via TM...could I breed for a noibat who knows it...? Like...I really want Echo by my side for the entire game...and levelling up a level 1 noibat will...take AWHILE...but is it at least POSSIBLE...? Breeding for IV's...? (Possible Glitch...?) SO I'm trying to breed a wooper for a dumb idea I had...and word has it that if you give an item that raises a certain stat for one parent to hold, that parent's IV's for that stat is more likely to carry...I've tried this many times, but without any luck with it working...not with either the stat raising pills OR the stat raising feathers. Breeding for Abilities...?; So dad's have a 20% chance of passing on an ability, and mom's an 80% chance, and normal and hidden moves are equally likely. (Is what I've read regarding Reborn and Rejuvenation)... ...SO I'm trying for a Wooper with Adaptability...what's the best way to do this...? Mom, of course, is a wooper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edo Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Aislin Li (Alili) said: Shiny Bug...? Not sure what else to call this...? I try to look through the threads to get an idea of what shinies look like what so I know which to hunt...and a few of them don't match up...? Screenshots are in the thread. that's how the shinies look, it's not a bug. But you can replace them with the sprites you like. The game's sprites are located in Graphics/Battlers in the game's folder, just replace the sprites you want 18 hours ago, Aislin Li (Alili) said: "Missing" TMs...? There can be changes from version to version, especially if you look at lists/guides for older versions, which explains contradictions. The wiki is in the progress of being updated though. Try to look for V12 guides here on the forums meanwhile, those are all up-to-date. And the reason trainers have TM moves you don't is simply to make their teams more difficult to beat. All TMs will eventually be included in the future. A lot of pokemon you meet in an event (not wild encounter) have an egg move as a bonus, which is why some have an unusual move. The Strength sap thing is a bug that can occur because of the Vileplume in the Safari Zone. The bug keeps giving mons the Strength sap move because it is the egg move bonus for that Vileplume. If you still have that problem, interact with a Vileplume in the Terajuma jungle or Kakori village, basically any other than the Safari zone one. (The Low sweep thing is new to me, but it sounds like the same kind of bug) 18 hours ago, Aislin Li (Alili) said: Breeding for Moves...?; My starter, a Decidueye named Bowwie, DID get U-Turn as an egg-move. I got it from the heart scale lady...and since Noibat and Noivern can learn it via TM...could I breed for a noibat who knows it...? TM moves can't be bred anymore (since gen 6 I believe) 18 hours ago, Aislin Li (Alili) said: Breeding for IV's...? (Possible Glitch...?) No only the power items which increase the EV gain let you pass on a specific IV 100%, other items don't. 18 hours ago, Aislin Li (Alili) said: Breeding for Abilities...?; So dad's have a 20% chance of passing on an ability, and mom's an 80% chance, and normal and hidden moves are equally likely. (Is what I've read regarding Reborn and Rejuvenation)... ...SO I'm trying for a Wooper with Adaptability...what's the best way to do this...? Mom, of course, is a wooper... First of all Wooper can't even get Adaptability, do you mean Unaware perhaps? Or maybe you are talking about a different mon? But if you want to make sure to get a certain ability from a parent, give them an Everstone to hold. Edit: my bad, kinda didn't think while typing this, obv wrong Edited September 8, 2020 by Edo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aislin Li (Alili) Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 @Edo Thank you so much for replying! The shinies I listed are ones Jan approved in the shiny discussion threads...however, it is possible that the ones in game have not been updated to reflect them yet, at least for the Lycanroc since it is Gen7. Still, I had no idea that adding my own custom shinies could be a thing...and now I do...and I am. SO TEMPTED to try my hand at spriting now. (I moved recently and my tablet is still MIA...but spriting can be done with a mouse...). That does explain why the strength sap nonsense stopped and even started, thank you.^^ I understand that this game wants to be a challenge, and I am all for that...it's not so much the difficulty that has me nearly as much as the confusion. I play rejuvenation first and foremost for the story and to be immersed in the world and to catch cute critters, (hence why I play on casual), and when the rules of the world are established only for those same rules to be broken in favor of mechanics or otherwise...it can be a bit immersion breaking. Like...I'm a trainer too...so I should have access to the same/similar things as other trainers...but I don't. I hope that makes sense...and I'm sure it will be solved in the future once everything is there... Well, there goes that possibility...is there a move that functions similarly to U-turn that I CAN get...? I have no idea what a power item is. All I know is that the pills and feathers raise your EVs...so I thought they would work...welp. To explain; I just want a wooper with an ever stone who can use earth quake really REALLY hard to break the ice in a cave I found because that would be HILARIOUS. Everywhere I read says that abilities can be passed down from the parents...not that both parents have to be the same species, or that only abilities they can naturally learn can be passed down. Since Rejuvenation has hidden and normal abilities at equal chance...if Wooper can ONLY get Wooper specific abilities, then my little attempt has been pointless. About the Everstone though...I thought it only passed down Natures...? Mom has one. Her lonely nature has been getting passed down, but the abilities are randomly of all the possible wooper abilities. Once again; Thank you for responding! As a new player, I am. Clearly mistake-prone and easily confused. You've been super helpful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edo Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Aislin Li (Alili) said: @Edo Thank you so much for replying! The shinies I listed are ones Jan approved in the shiny discussion threads...however, it is possible that the ones in game have not been updated to reflect them yet, at least for the Lycanroc since it is Gen7. Still, I had no idea that adding my own custom shinies could be a thing...and now I do...and I am. SO TEMPTED to try my hand at spriting now. (I moved recently and my tablet is still MIA...but spriting can be done with a mouse...). That does explain why the strength sap nonsense stopped and even started, thank you.^^ I understand that this game wants to be a challenge, and I am all for that...it's not so much the difficulty that has me nearly as much as the confusion. I play rejuvenation first and foremost for the story and to be immersed in the world and to catch cute critters, (hence why I play on casual), and when the rules of the world are established only for those same rules to be broken in favor of mechanics or otherwise...it can be a bit immersion breaking. Like...I'm a trainer too...so I should have access to the same/similar things as other trainers...but I don't. I hope that makes sense...and I'm sure it will be solved in the future once everything is there... Well, there goes that possibility...is there a move that functions similarly to U-turn that I CAN get...? I have no idea what a power item is. All I know is that the pills and feathers raise your EVs...so I thought they would work...welp. To explain; I just want a wooper with an ever stone who can use earth quake really REALLY hard to break the ice in a cave I found because that would be HILARIOUS. Everywhere I read says that abilities can be passed down from the parents...not that both parents have to be the same species, or that only abilities they can naturally learn can be passed down. Since Rejuvenation has hidden and normal abilities at equal chance...if Wooper can ONLY get Wooper specific abilities, then my little attempt has been pointless. About the Everstone though...I thought it only passed down Natures...? Mom has one. Her lonely nature has been getting passed down, but the abilities are randomly of all the possible wooper abilities. Once again; Thank you for responding! As a new player, I am. Clearly mistake-prone and easily confused. You've been super helpful! You're welcome, just ask again whenever you need help, this community is usually super helpful. - Pretty sure there is nothing besides U-Turn for Noivern. You can only have U-Turn and Volt switch if it's by level up/move relearner so far. - Power items are like a Macho brace, they don't increase the EVs by being used, but give them as bonus when being held while fighting. Iirc you can buy them in the department store in GDC if you have enough stickers to get to the floor they're sold at, which is pretty late in the game, so I wouldn't recommend waiting until you get your hands on them. - yeah, my mind was somewhere else while writing that part about the Everstone, it does only pass on the nature, my bad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calentz Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 19 hours ago, Aislin Li (Alili) said: That does explain why the strength sap nonsense stopped and even started, thank you.^^ I understand that this game wants to be a challenge, and I am all for that...it's not so much the difficulty that has me nearly as much as the confusion. I play rejuvenation first and foremost for the story and to be immersed in the world and to catch cute critters, (hence why I play on casual), and when the rules of the world are established only for those same rules to be broken in favor of mechanics or otherwise...it can be a bit immersion breaking. Like...I'm a trainer too...so I should have access to the same/similar things as other trainers...but I don't. I hope that makes sense...and I'm sure it will be solved in the future once everything is there... As someone who also plays for the story, I can relate to the difficulty. I prefer to use Pokemon that I like vs having to worry about team composition etc. especially in a game that heavily features story, which isn't easy to do in this game even on the difficulty mode that is ironically labelled as 'casual'. (to be fair, I won't sit here and pretend i'm good at competitive pokemon battles/strategies so that's probably half my problem right there lol) I still feel that way sometimes, but I have come to appreciate some of the new experiences this game has brought to my attention such as IVs/EVs, strategies and also using mons that I wouldn't have even given a second thought to but now have become some of my favorite! To be fair, this game does have a few things that somewhat offset the higher difficulty: Easier ways to EV train, making perfect or semi perfect IVs through breeding easier to obtain. There's also the move re learner in Sheridan village that can teach egg moves after completing a side quest in Kristiline. Not to mention pokemon, even caught in the wild, can potentially possess their hidden ability. I realize your personal experience was more towards the confusion or immersion that is the result of the difficulty rather than the difficulty itself as you said, I just wanted to say that despite my own grievances the higher difficulty and challenge have brought me I still was able to find ways to enjoy the game despite them. Hope you feel the same way too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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