Lord Drakyle

That said how are lynch votes decided in this game? having a majority or just whoever hits the most votes? @DigitalAmber

now you are stacking though? also i will remove the vote if i see a bandwagon forming without good reason

Venus is being incredibly quiet, i could post a temporary vote on him..but then there is toot toots i could vote for too because wlel...he is Toot Toot (newt) hmm decisions decisions...i suppose ill just go with the one who doesn't seem to be talking much right now and i stress that voting Venus just because i did is not advised, if you do vote him have a solid reason behind it, this vote is likely to be removed if we learn something that gives reason to shift it. EDIT: forgot to place the vote SUNEV [ETANIMILE]

Blame Mr. Knighty, he got me worked up.

dunno who we can vote to be lynched temporary or not to try get info that we can use to make a lynch that favors the town but i do know you can vote me for Discord President But yeah ya will need to do some reading to find out what has been learned today Lykos

oooook, not much to go on then with why paul specifically and guessing you didn't learn anything last night? @Venus EDIT: @purplecicada *Note to self*: Make nicki N0 death when i'm a mafia

That a temp vote or do you have some dirt on paul or...what?

if you think my objective was to change how Bean acts or that i wasted energy you CLEARLY haven't read it or analysed it, i made it clear, the vote is temporary until new info comes up but was placed on Bean in particular because he didn't seem too bothered by losing a town which is why i also referenced why every town we lose matters so much. If you really are analysing and reading you are failing at it, everything needed was provided within the first two posts after seeing Bean's response to Lia's death N0. Everything about WHY i voted him, the purpose of it all of it was there. @NickCrashI think it's likely Alice is a Dreamer due to how she would visit wonderland through her dreams and if paranoid characters are those who would tend to roleblock then our best bet is March Hare who is jittery and insane or Dormouse who will run and flee at the mere mention of a cat or the word Cat.

You owe me nothing, i was simply explaing what i currently know (im digging up info on the characters so far only Copycat doesn't seem to reveal any existance but Alice seems to be a Dreamer (she visits Wonderland in her dreams while asleep) and the King of Hearts secretly pardons people the queen has ordered Beheaded though he too is childish and often ready to see people executed pretty quickly he tries to maintain SOME level of fairness such as a trial he also was a judge in the seen trial he called for. Dormouse from what i've read is timid as they come, often sleepy/sleeping but that's all it really talks about his behaviour. His female version in the film was not sleepy and took out one of Bandersnatch's eyes with a sword. March Hare is the a shaky bordering on insane if not already insane rabbit in the film (tossed a tea cup at one of the card guards telling them they are all late for tea then starts laughing like a maniac) while White rabbit is the time keeper. March Hare is apparantly most insane in march and was a prosecutor in the trial the king of hearts order but his final appearance by a different name has him as the Personal Messenger of The White King. That's all i could dig up on him. The rest of the characters there is little to no info to go on about them that defines anything we can make sense of as to what they might do in this game.

@Mr. Knightlyalso i would keep things concise and straight to the point but you annoyed me so i went out my way to make what i had to say more like a wall of text, if ya read it carefully you will see exactly the points made and see exactly why you annoyed me.

@Filthy CasualI don't know a great deal about many of the characters but i know somewhat about some of them. such as the Queen of Hearts who is like she has an itchy trigger finger except she isn't quick to shoot you more that she is quick to sentence you to being beheaded, in the film she beheaded the King of Hearts so i know nothing about him. Cheshire Cat loves Mad Hatter's hat and can turn into the appearance of anyone or anything and become invisible, he also floats, so he is like a Chameleon Shapeshifter if you will. Tweedledee and Tweedledum are twins, always fighting and bickering. Hatter well, most i seen of him is him cutting a dress down to size for mini Alice to wear which fit perfectly and looked well designed considering he tore it off of the original dress and shape it down for someone mini sized hence why i suggested he could be an armor make/vest provider because his precision skill. Alice is a visitor to Wonderland who seemingly went there as a kid often while growing up and in the film i watched she is The White Queen's champion to face The Jabberwocky. The White Hare i don't know much about him though he is sort of a time keeper? carries a watch and is always in a hurry and panics. and finally Catapiller whom is like a grumpy wise sage, knows a lot, doesn't quite like to talk though (called Alice quite often 'stupid girl') he seems to have otherwordly knowledge about events and keeps a scroll that foretells the future.

@Mr. KnightlyActually likewise with the case of the first person to place a vote on me, had you bothered to READ, it was a TEMPORARY vote, hence why it got removed when further information came to light, you call me suspicious for defending myself, yet you would do the exact same if i DIDN'T defend myself, the fact was someone voted me for reasons that when voiced seemed like they made no attempt to really read what i had said or my reasoning for the vote, again if i wanted to get a BW i would ask for people to join the vote, i made it very well known i don't want people joining the vote just because i voted Bean but to join the vote if they have reasons that make them feel motivated as to why they should, honestly did you read anything or just decide to toss an accusation at me because i seemed slightly hostile? Also what exactly would you say we do then Day 1? lynch at random and hope for the best? that's how ya keep killing townies off, that's why i asked if anyone knows anything because important information is useful, if i got roleblocked, then we know there is a roleblocker in the game useful info, if i wasn't roleblocked, Corso has some kind of immunity also useful info, the ONLY thing worth merit you have said so far is that i could be lying which is true in the case of ANYONE here, yes we should be wary but take what Alaris has said into account, Corso had two visitors, Candy and myself both claim to have visited Corso, unless there is someone who claims to have also visited Corso i don't see why we can feel like there is much to doubt about it, further i'm not sure if Alaris' words are exactly what he was told when he claims to have gotten info from the penguin but he says that the info was 2 people TRIED to visit Corso, i dont know if that means both failed or attempts were made the success or failure not revealed to Alaris. Next time you wanna say something about me, actually make it clear and SHOW you READ what i had to say because right now it seems like you only barely looked through what i said then made a decision, i made it very clear the vote was temporary and not to just blindly follow it, a temporary vote as expected can change or be removed suddenly and what we learned from it is Bean is only talking like that because he sees it as a kill will always be expected and if i understand him correctly, since it's N0 none of us can know how valuable the person dead was, which is a fair point. Simply put, the vote was removed as new information came to light. i don't like what i view as being stupidity, i got voted for placing a temporary vote and felt it was stupid, i question how it is considered scummy or mafia behaviour to place a temporary vote because there isn't enough information to decide who to lynch but someone is acting like losing a town doesn't affect them. an OMGUS on behalf of oneself or others is silly this early especially since voting someone in the early game or later can be done to pressure them into explaining themself when their actions are suspicious. Also revealing one has a visiting role isn't that much to go on for town or mafia but due to an action failure occurance, knowing if anyone visited Corso or has OTHER information became of importance as it was needed to be established does someone have an immunity or is there a roleblocker in the game.

@Bok ChoiAlso i use jailor in the idea of being someone who can prevent actions occuring to someone that night while blocking them from also doing their actions as a result, i wouldn't imagine in a Alice in Wonderland themed game there wouldn't be the type of person who locks you in a cage. The only thing i'm certain of is there was some kind of interference with the action.

@Candy @Bok Choiwell now we are told it wasn't a jailor visiting Corso also that provides two possible possibilties if Candy is the person who also visited Corso. Possibilities A.) Corso has immunity to my Night Action B.) I was roleblocked (i hadn't considered this possibility but it too could be the case) i got told 'Your action failed' so either i was roleblocked or Corso was immune to the action if Candy's claim is true. I doubt Corso wants to share if they have some kind of immunity. [Unvote] Psychic Bean Sheep Now as for Bean asking why they wouldn't N0 him the answer is simple, he isn't valuable to the town most of the time due to how he behaves.

@Archeric @Bok ChoiJust because he is being Bean, doesn't mean his actions as being bean support the town, besides Archeric, if you dained to read my full post you would see it is a vote placed UNTIL further information comes up based on the fact Bean is behaving without concern for the fact we lost a member of the town, if you had a better target in mind after reading Bean's post then by all means, do enlighten me Archeric. Besides im not asking people to follow my vote simply because i voted him for that reason, if they do so it should be because the reasons they feel compelled to do so convince them there is reason enough to suspect him, voting me for voting him is near enough equal to an OMGUS but dont let that stop you, waste your time lynching or voting me a town member. Now with all that aside, again, do we have anything else to go on, if we trust Alaris' word which i have reason to since there is limited ways to outright block an action occuring then someone who also visited Corso was likely as i said, the Jailor, who i dont know, if it wasn't a Jailor then that starts to bring up some flags, i'd like to know if bean knows anything we can use that they are willing to share

@AlarisYes i did attempt a visit on Corso and suspect the other visitor then was a jailor or also failed to do whatever they were doing because the result of the visit was: 'Your action failed' If there is a cult then i will see if i can make sense of who it would be from the list of mafia/3rd party EDIT: So after looking at it, the cult is if there is one is more likely Copycat than Jabberwocky. We know that the Jabberwocky was the champion of The Red Queen/Queen of Hearts in the film and could only be fought by Alice, i assume in this game they function similar to that Demon King heir role in the other game or such or simply needs to eliminate specific people like Alice and the Queen of Hearts, matter of fact it might even be a Granny to everyone but Alice visiting it, that said if Queen of Hearts was a Mayor role i would wager Alice to be then a Vigilante who might be the only one able to fight the Jabberwocky, we know Cheshire Cat can imitate the appearance of anyone so he probably is like the Slime from Halloween Mafia in that he can replace a deceased player taking up their role. @Alarisin case ya missed the EDIT from already seeing what was said before it.

Oh i almost forgot, Catapiller who seems to be very intelligent is probably an info gathering type of role like the penguin or such, the way he behaved always seemed that you visit him and he bestows wisdom so does anyone know of existing roles where when you visit the role you learn info?

Bean, you seem far too disattached from the fact we lost a member of the town, until further evidence or reason to suspect someone else, i'm casting my vote on you. [Eliminate] Psychic Bean Sheep It may just be one town dead now but it will begin to add up, every lynch we get wrong, every kill someone does during the night be they mafia or town that kills a town will add up, which is why we need to take every town loss seriously from the get go and start taking what we know so far. What i know so far is an action against Corso failed, i'm not saying much more than that for now but i believe he is either immune to the action through various means or was jailed, i'd like to hear from Corso if they can offer any input regarding this, what they know or if they noticed anything during the night happen to them to explain this strange occurance. @Corso Also while im at it i think we should try guess what each role does, from the movie we know The Mad Hatter is skilled at making Hats, maybe even other clothes? in which case, perhaps he provides vests? The queen probably functions like the Mayor Role or Vigilante Role. Anyone else got ideas?

My Liaaaa! Now i'm mad, so let's get things underway. Anyone know anything of useful interest to us? Anything learned, anything suspected...anything to go on at all?

fot future note, you have backup saves which are made automatically and allow you to revert to the last time you saved except you can have several so it will be the save before that and the save before that one and so on

@HUEndwell still, it is possible to get 6iv ditto legit just...insanely unlikely.

actually if we count the possibility of event ditto being guranteed 3 max ivs then a legit 6iv ditto chance is 1 in 29791

As useful as this may seem, it's too much of a read especially for a new player and might intimidate them into think this game is harder than it is, it also trails too much into unnessecary details, it would be useful if ya kept the lengthy details in spoiler tags for those interested but used a TL;DR sentence pointing out what the tip is telling you to do or look for. @Venus

he only uses the field you are referring to in a specific chain of events while failing to meet the conditions means he uses another field that gust wont work on.

expect a request from Lord Drakyle then (also sorry screen got stuck had to back out and retry)