Godot Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 Looking at the list again with a bit more thought... Ryu belongs in A tier somewhere. Mac goes in B- somewhere. Jiggs goes somewhere in C+. And Mewtwo goes somewhere in C. Quote
Omega_Ra1der Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 I have a nice refute for Luigi is braindead. Take a look at Mario, he is even more braindead. I mean d-throw u-tilt x3 up-air, up-air and up b. Nearly easy 60% in one d-throw. Quote
Shanco Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Easily DI'd out of by a lot of characters though. Good luck getting that against Roy or Wario or someone who has good air speed. Quote
Godot Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Or other mario bros who can break out of any combo with a nair. Quote
Shing Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 Ryu's Nair is one of the best moves ryu's has for beginning a combo or a option to get not grabbed. It's pretty good, since i could get 20% or even 30 easily how hard ryu hits. Perhaps should have him as a secondary? Quote
Godot Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 He is a definite secondary for me. Are you taking advantage of special canceling? Quote
Dark Desire Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 i hate ryu on the 3ds otherwise i'd play him more Quote
Shing Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 He is a definite secondary for me. Are you taking advantage of special canceling? I use more with weak d-tilt and hard d-tilt and hadouken etc. Or down throw into forward air. A lot different, my favourite is when i get the true shoryuken. I got really used with timing with weak and hard move. Quote
Godot Posted September 13, 2015 Posted September 13, 2015 So you are doing weak down tilt->heavy down tilt -> special cancel into Hadouken? That one is cool because of the follow ups you can get. You can also special cancel weak up tilt into true Shoryu. Some people will use a weak forward tilt to keep Ryu's positioning while he does Yoga Fire. I need to practice FADC into True Shoryu. Quote
Shanco Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 i hate ryu on the 3ds otherwise i'd play him more Ironically, I hate him on the Wii U, mainly because of my controller's directional divots on the control and C sticks driving me nuts when I'm trying to do Tatsumakis and stuff. Ryu is actually the only character I like using the Game Pad for, and for that very reason. Maybe if I get a Pro Controller I'll enjoy him even more. Quote
Shing Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 So you are doing weak down tilt->heavy down tilt -> special cancel into Hadouken? That one is cool because of the follow ups you can get. You can also special cancel weak up tilt into true Shoryu. Some people will use a weak forward tilt to keep Ryu's positioning while he does Yoga Fire. I need to practice FADC into True Shoryu. Yeah pretty much. Or a lot with nair to combo, because nair can hit both side and do some nice damage. I didn't practice so much with ryu in all honestly, he was just easy after playing other characters for some time. I got back to him after a month, suprprisingly he was much better using for me. How i get FADC into true shoryuken is prety easy. Go to 1:28, and that's how i hold the controller. It makes pretty easy to focus dash, and true shoryuken in right side like nothing. On left side, i just recommend to hold like a lot of normal people do. Quote
Shadow Tack Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 been wondering how to do that on 3ds, that probably helps alot, but i'm not sure if lucina's perfect pivot is horrible or that guy was doing it wrong, one of thosse looked like a roll Quote
Shing Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 been wondering how to do that on 3ds, that probably helps alot, but i'm not sure if lucina's perfect pivot is horrible or that guy was doing it wrong, one of thosse looked like a roll You should have ask me long time before, since i did perfect pivot in some of out matches. It's helps with controlling the character better for me. It's a perfect pivot he shows, trust me. Lucina's perfect pivot isn't so horrible, it's fine for me imo. Quote
Omega_Ra1der Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 May I present my smash scene play of the weekly. http://oddshot.tv/shot/613smash-201509151253972 Quote
Godot Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 That's pretty cool. Are they gonna do any other cross promotional things like this soon? Cough cough star fox zero, cough Wolf Return Cough. Quote
Shanco Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Went to another tournament last night, iirc a 32 man tourney like last time. Here were the top 12...1. Zero Suit Samus / Robin 2. Sheik / Mario 3. Palutena / Mario 4. Fox / Mario 5. Diddy Kong 5. Villager 7. Rosalina / Greninja 7. Random 9. Ganondorf / Lucina 9. Captain Falcon 9. Kirby 9. Sheik 1. V1152. Yoh 3. IceNinja 4. EMG | Toronto Joe 5. David_give 5. Jell0 7. Shanoa 7. WILD 9. Abbey Street 9. Roy 9. TanTaco 9. LGS | Truth Quote
Shadow Tack Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Went to another tournament last night, iirc a 32 man tourney like last time. Here were the top 12... 1. Zero Suit Samus / Robin 2. Sheik / Mario 3. Palutena / Mario 4. Fox / Mario 5. Diddy Kong 5. Villager 7. Rosalina / Greninja 7. Random 9. Ganondorf / Lucina 9. Captain Falcon 9. Kirby 9. Sheik 1. V115 2. Yoh 3. IceNinja 4. EMG | Toronto Joe 5. David_give 5. Jell0 7. Shanoa 7. WILD 9. Abbey Street 9. Roy 9. TanTaco 9. LGS | Truth grats man! hope you do even better in the future! Quote
Shanco Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Some guy mains the random slot? He's really damn good. Quote
Dark Desire Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Xl4NGdeSg&feature=youtu.be&a didn't know all the ways you could input true up b i've been doing a little bit of research on ryu and he's starting to fall lower on my personal tier list Quote
Omega_Ra1der Posted September 20, 2015 Posted September 20, 2015 Hey, just melee inspired me to pick the hype king: Captain Falcon as a possible sub-main since luigi can handle the heavy to mid weights while falcon do the lightweights (I am looking at you pacman.) Speaking pacman, in my scene, there is a rising pacman main and I almost took a game off of him like last stock, in 100% percents almost. Back to main topic: any combo to learn from up-throw and down-throw? mid percent, d-throw to nair or up air. and that all I know. Quote
Shadow Tack Posted September 20, 2015 Posted September 20, 2015 Hey, just melee inspired me to pick the hype king: Captain Falcon as a possible sub-main since luigi can handle the heavy to mid weights while falcon do the lightweights (I am looking at you pacman.) Speaking pacman, in my scene, there is a rising pacman main and I almost took a game off of him like last stock, in 100% percents almost. Back to main topic: any combo to learn from up-throw and down-throw? mid percent, d-throw to nair or up air. and that all I know. You might be able to bait out an airdodge from either for a free knee, don't quote me on that Also this http://challonge.com/snag15smash4s light and omegascizor were rob's Senpai was mario/roy/ i think link PK fraud was a shiek that got challenged to use ness while not knowing how, hence the 2-0 in round 1 Mnster was something/tink, i have no idea who anybody else used Quote
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