Godot Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I know DDD can do some annoying defensive things with his Gordos where they bounce in place and keep him safe from rush down. He also sucks against ranged characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 man, now that zero is telling everyone how strong MK is, everyone's going to have a pocket MK now ;w; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Tack Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 man, now that zero is telling everyone how strong MK is, everyone's going to have a pocket MK now ;w; I'm still focusing on link and doc.... i wanted to learn meta knight before it was cool to learn meta knight.... now i'll just be seen as a piece of shit if i do. not that people don't see me as a piece of shit anyway.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm still focusing on link and doc.... i wanted to learn meta knight before it was cool to learn meta knight.... now i'll just be seen as a piece of shit if i do. not that people don't see me as a piece of shit anyway.... only if you're shit with MK 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I really don't know if MK is as strong as ZeRo says he is. He's alright against Sheik and some other high-tier picks, which I guess is reason enough to pick him, but everyone else that has respectable range will give him a hassle. Marth, Zero Suit, Shulk and Ike will all do considerably well vs MK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Tack Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I really don't know about the strength of Meta Knight. He's good against Sheik and some others, which I guess is reason enough to pick him, but everyone else that has respectable range will give him a hassle. Rosalina, Marth, Falco, Shulk and Ike will all bend him over. ...MK is actually a pretty hard MU for rosa according to the boards, the only moves that don't knock away luma are Uair and Dair... and MK's Dair isn't very good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 There are people on both sides of the spectrum saying that the matchup is in so and so's favor. I personally subscribe to the theory that Rosa wins this matchup by playing passively and letting Luma do most of the killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 MK has some really bs kill options like ZSS killing off the top of the stage, except MK has more options into these combos (d-throw/dash attack/up tilt) and most of the time you can't DI away from his upairs so even bad MUs are winnable if you're killing them from 40-60% to death also i would think the rosaxMK MU would be more even, luma seems like she'd be able knock MK out of a lot of combos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Played some MK with my Roy playstyle. I can say one other weakness but that could be me: his secondary jumps are weak so I can't really nail the up b in air to kill. Edited August 14, 2015 by OmegaRa1der Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shing Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The thing that's interesting is smash 4 DI is different than the other games. Really didn't knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 man, now that zero is telling everyone how strong MK is, everyone's going to have a pocket MK now ;w; Wait, seriously? I picked up MK as a main last month and now he's gonna be mainstream? My hipster swag is ruined... DAMN YOU, ZERO!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shing Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Wait, seriously? I picked up MK as a main last month and now he's gonna be mainstream? My hipster swag is ruined... DAMN YOU, ZERO!!!! Blame Leo with his MK against Mr.r shiek lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Tack Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Blame Mr. R with his MK against Leo's shiek lol. Mr R doesn't have MK at all and leo doesn't have Shiek i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shing Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Mr R doesn't have MK at all and leo doesn't have Shiek i think Ah my mistake. Althrough Leo had shiek at the smash con. So a *half* point for me lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Don't care what Zer0 says, I'm sticking with R.O.B., Morton, Fox, and most recently, Geno. And some tips for King DoodleDong, be very patient. You can't rush in like a lunatic. F-Tilt is a good spacing/poke tool because it's got perhaps the least recovery in his entire kit. And while his grab game is good, you can't be like Luigi with him and fish for grabs because he can't do as much out of them. His jab can lead into a few followups: First 2 hits into either rapid jab + jab finisher, down tilt, possibly a grab, or possibly a down smash. Mindgames. Edited August 14, 2015 by Generalguy64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Geno? You dropped Reggie? Was his body too much for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darvan Korematsu Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Honestly MK is a somewhat underrated and underappreciated character. I don't like him really because he's not my playstyle. But MK is basically the Wolf of SSB4. Basically a tad above average on higher tier characters, and meh to crap against everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Geno? You dropped Reggie? Was his body too much for you? No, but Feint Jump isn't his default Down B. It's actually the Head Slam move, which is the equivalent of taking away Bouncing Fish and giving Sheik her old Down B back. It's that bad. My local tournament scene doesn't allow customs any more, including on Mii. So, now I'm going with my original reason for having Mii as my most wanted: To wreck face with Geno to piss off everyone who wanted him playable. Gunner has the best Default customs and is still really fun to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Desire Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Mr R doesn't have MK at all and leo doesn't have Shiek i think Mr R has a pocket MK, he played it at evo and smashcon i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 No, but Feint Jump isn't his default Down B. It's actually the Head Slam move, which is the equivalent of taking away Bouncing Fish and giving Sheik her old Down B back. It's that bad. My local tournament scene doesn't allow customs any more, including on Mii. So, now I'm going with my original reason for having Mii as my most wanted: To wreck face with Geno to piss off everyone who wanted him playable. Gunner has the best Default customs and is still really fun to use. Shiek's old down B was pretty bad. It transformed her into a lower tier character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Shiek's old down B was pretty bad. It transformed her into a lower tier character. I know. He's just that much worse without it. It's essentially Bowser's down B with none of the damage or kill power, yet the same amount of endlag. Feint Jump is a fast, reliable escape, recovery, and attack all in one. Mii Brawler is significantly worse without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Went up against pyrrhon and my kd3 took one maybe 2 sets out of many sets. Yep, and originally it was supposly a luigi ditto matches but I failed, badly. Need to break one habit of me double jumping (ruins my down-b recovery) and practice some more combos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I got some time. Anyone want to play on 3DS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega_Ra1der Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I am up for some practice with my luigi game. Not sure I can pull off my kd3 with the circle pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I am up for some practice with my luigi game. Not sure I can pull off my kd3 with the circle pad. FC is 3926-7000-8702 if I don't already have you added. Need to work on the Luigi MU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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