Bok Choi

Ok I think I still can't read this game as well as I would like However it feels to me like Jace's number 1 theory sounds the most straightforward and the most likely. A possible minimal change (And the easiest answer to this doll mystery) Would just be if the creepy girl could give out two instead of one doll. I doubt the dolls would have different effects because of the fact that most roles are changed minimally. As such, I don't entirely believe that Amber is the suspicious one here. Astra isn't entirely believable though, what are the chances he gives away and gets a doll in the same night? I'm not confident in that read at all though so take that with a grain of salt. And ngl, the thing that irks me the most is how buddy-buddy Yahen and Drak are. Granted, if they were Mafia, they would be discussing all this stuff in their own chat, but it still rubs me a little the wrong way, especially Yahen. He's quick to jump on bandwagons, agree with the same people and fill up space with useless posts. idk guys, kinda sketchy, and unless I missed something, we can't verify whether Drak and Yahen are town or not. If I missed something pls let me know I guess at the end of the day this isn't entirely a well founded vote, but imo nobody looks overly suspect to me quite yet [eliminate] Yahen

Oh that actually makes sens, I think Ali figured it out. The way Sailboat describes the apprentice is "they're not allowed to inherit this role" Which tells me that the apprentice can't get the role even if they wanted it. Thus the apprentice has to be a werewolf, because if the apprentice could theoretically be any faction, the only one where they would not be *allowed* to inherit Silver Knight is if they were a werewolf. Smaht Ali In other news, I don't think it'd be smart to go for no lynch today, cuz it's likely we're losing two people tonight. Unless they pull a Cass and go for the same person. imo most of my scummy suspicions are currently on the people who pushed either A) hard for a no lynch, or B) Hard to lynch Baz as per the possibilities I raised earlier in the day. Eeny Meeny Miny- Oh Look! There's one person who kept their vote on Baz while simultaneously throwing suspicion onto anybody who voted for anyone else late last phase. [Eliminate] Nick Not only did he make the people supporting Baz look suspicious, he also tried to make the people contributing to the vote even if they didn't vote Baz look suspicious too, steering the lynch off of Baz while looking like he stayed true to his words. IMO if he really wanted Baz lynched, he wouldn't say anything about that. Granted his points were strong, and voting did mean supporting Baz's lynch, but there sure was a lot of suspicion thrown around mostly by and around him. My vote will stay there unless someone has a better idea

So I guess the doctor (if there is one) didn't believe Baz, which I guess is fair from the divide yesterday. At least now we have our answer. There are two big situations possible here Imo 1. The werewolves pushed the Lynch on Baz, but we're foiled when we worked towards a non-lynch 2. The werewolves pushed a Lynch on Baz, but then realized they were pushing too hard and would be screwed if he really was lynched, so they switched to advocating a non-lynch (or a Lynch on others) in the hopes they could kill him some other way. Also I think his death also confirms that Baz was in fact town, since wolves couldn't kill this night and vampires can't kill their own. I suspect the vamp went after Baz so they could recruit someone who couldn't be killed by wolves on the off chance Baz was a vampire. Anyways, what do y'all think?

Oof why all the posts randomly talking about how to read reactions Perhaps that totem could be used to protect someone maybe so we dont lose someone important idk I really hope *somebody* had information to share, I cant see a pattern in these votes, and at this point Yahen just seems to be speaking to take up space. Purposeful? Idk. He defended Astra pretty vehemently yesterday, jumping onto unfounded voted, so thats something that definitely caught my eye

Appreciate the support but Why? It's not really a bandwagon, first of all And I gave you no reason to vote Nicki at all? Granted this doesn't change the fact that I still struggle at reading this game but pointing out that the vote seemed a little hasty

Hrrrrrrrr gut feelings are the worst and I can't read this game at all Ahhhhhh. [Unvote] Astra [Vote] Nicki (Cicada)

Ok I check back 1 day later and I see 7 pages to read, I love all of you guys Snarkasm aside, I see the possibility of Baz being a wolf, but (reiterating what has been said) knowing how Nano plays, it's hard to for me to get behind y'all. Also so many people haven't said anything smh I bet some of them are wolves and vampires, it'll be hard to tell tbh if they don't talk or at least give their thought. One day left so I'll hold off my vote for now until I can get a better read on more than like 4-5 people

I mean on the bright side we only lost one townie? XD Also my night was fairly eventful it seems. I was controlled by a witch, whatever that means, and blocked

I'm inclined to believe Alaris, I don't think his behavior was all that scummy, and his arguments made sense. I also don't think the Shaman would be maf-aligned, because then wouldn't the maf peeps have way too much power? My vote'll stay the same as last day I think [Eliminate] Astra

Oh right, I forgot @Alaris I am not on the list, but obviously related to death like everyone else is

I'm still somewhat skeptical of Cas, but that leaves us with no clear choices on who to lynch. But then again when has there ever REALLY been a clear choice. I'll give Alaris his argument, but I think this is going to be important to keep in mind if either of them flip something other than town. It also seems it might be a bit too late to save him either way, so I think we'll have our answer but [unvote] Castiel I have to vote though so erm gut hunch vote [Eliminate] Astra

Even if he is third party, what's the upside to keeping him alive? That's just another person working against town. Unless Cas can convince me his role can help town, (such as if you can help us kill or unmask etc. the maf) my vote is pretty straightforward. [Eliminate] Castiel101

If its not too late put me innnnnnnnnnnnnnnn If it is too late I'll juror

Poor Lia. Never got to promote ;-; I guess I should do things so i don't get axed for inactivity >_> There's a very real possibility that Newt is bluffing about his role (I'm a little more certain about his colour, since bluffing about that causes vote shenanigans that will just confuse everybody, not just the opposite team). I suspect the vote is already decided, and we'll have our answer about Ali/Newt soon enough so I'm gonna do a low-key vote and [eliminate] Kiet (CrimsonDragon21)

Oh I forgot... ...The whole last day phase So um to say I'm behind is kind of an understatement. After skimming over stuff recently, the most apparent question seems to be what side Nicki is on. She claims to know who both kings are, but she can't outright vote the king of the opposite team because of a) the chance of people not believing her and b) the possibility that she could be on the smaller team at the moment. What her votes and the things she says could be really important later on. Oof too lazy to analyze rn so I'll cast a hunch vote for now based on what I've read (might change it if I get the chance to actually look at stuff closely) [eliminate] Newt

Let's go with... Fernandez Fernandez ayyy Super in

C'mon the poor kid playing chess is bored out of his mind Let's make this all out war *maniacal laugh* [Eliminate] Alaris for no reason whatsoever

I protected Cass again Regardless, I stand by my vote from yesterday, nothing has happened rto make me want to change my mind [Eliminate] L'Belle

Imma here

The arguments against Dive are strong. However I would like to say that his roleclaim is very much still uncontested, even though he said exactly which Kong he was. IMO Tiny Kong seems to be a big enough Kong (pun kind of intended) to be a role in this game, and I find it difficult to think of any reason not to counterclaim if there is a real Tiny Kong that's not Dive. I think my vote is gonna go [Eliminate] L'Belle since I might not be able to post again before the phase change.

I was going to reply earlier but the forums borked when I was about to oof. I trust Dive to be Tiny Kong but the reason the maf kill isn't happening is not quite on point. I had been suspicious of Dive, but your roleclaim seems solid, and I can see why you would think I was a possible killer. Hopefully I can clear this up. Let's start with who I am. I'm Chunky Kong, and I'm a modified doctor. Specifically, I choose someone to protect from kills each night (but this doesn't heal people who have been stabbed). I protected Lia the first night, then protected Cass on all following nights. Given your information that your action failed night 0, I think I can confidently say Lia was the Mafia's target night 0 (She has been contributing well, and I don't see an obvious reason to see her as scum yet). Furthermore, according to Seal, it is also impossible to kill me at night unless I protect the "wrong" person. What that means I'm still unsure about, but I suspect that means I'm left vulnerable if I try to protect someone who isn't town. This leads me to believe I was probably the target of yesterday's kill (since I was clearly spot on about Alaris faking the bleeding on the first day, making me somewhat of a target). You can go through yesterday's posts, but I'll summarize that I initially believed Nicki. With all the arguments going around however, your suggestion for a tie seemed the most logical in the case I was wrong (which I often am). Yes, we lost Nicki, but we learned a lot more from both their deaths rather than just one. I'll also say now that mafia knows I cannot die at night as long as I protect Cass, they WILL push to lynch me. If they are successful, I suggest watching those people. Btw @L'Belle still waiting on your thoughts from yesterday's arguments and your reasoning.

@HypurrKiet didn't jail Drak. He jailed you night 1 and then me night 2. He said Drak told him this over whispers (idk if that was yesterday or this day though)

I had considered the possibility of a disguiser, but that can be ruled out rather easily actually. All the deaths except for Bean on the first day were caused by the veteran, meaning they couldn't have been the disguiser (the disguiser must visit to disguise themselves, and none of the veteran's kills were another veteran). Bean was killed by the mafia, and imo there's virtually no chance that mafia would kill one of their own night 1 just to mess with the town. For night 2 kills, we can once again easily rule out the mafia kill (Lia), which leaves Nicki. However, we already had a very good grasp on Nicki's role, and she showed up in death exactly as who we concluded, and who she claimed she was. I don't think a disguiser could have messed with things, but someone please tell me if there's a flaw in my reasoning.

So we learned a couple things. 1. As of last day, Cass has not been culted 2. The possibility of there being a cult has decreased quite a bit 3. Nicki's investigations are very much reliable However it seems there's a contradiction right there already. We had been working last day on the assumption that Alaris was the last maf, but now we know that's most likely incorrect (or else why hasn't the game ended). We have a couple options: Eric was indeed lying and there are still maf members running around. There is a cult, and they are either A) still culting, making Amber just a member, or B) No longer culting (which would be the case if the cult worked in such a way that the members do not die upon the cultist dying) We also need to consider that nobody died last night. Was a kill forgotten? Was it blocked? It's hard to say. However, to me it seems that the first course of action is to turn attention to people who tried to push the Lynch on to Nicki and not Alaris, and to look at people who jumped at the chance to Lynch both of them after Dive suggested it. (I admit I was one of those people, and it was the safest choice, but I want to specifically hear from @L'Belle, who hadn't participated in yesterday's discussion very much at all before voting and agreeing to Dive).

So it seems clear that Lykos is lying, but let me address Alphagar first to defend myself. On the first night, I investigated Bean, because I typically find him quite hard to read. But he died, so. On the second night, I had planned to visit either Lia or Drak, but that plan went down the drain rather quickly when Kiet jailed me (I couldn't do anything in jail). I don't know what else to tell you, if Nicki hadn't been haunted to death, she would be able to tell you of my roleclaim last day phase and of course Kiet can explain why he decided not to kill me. In my mind, we have three suspicious people: Dive, Hypurr, and Lykos. We had no way of verifying Hypurr's claim during the last day, so we trusted him, but now we know with Lia's death that that is a lie. Dive's possible third party alignment explains both the role contradiction and his behaviour (he hasn't been afraid to search for the mafia simply because he isn't one). And now we know with Alphagar's reveal as Mayor that Lykos's roleclaim can't be true. It's your decision what you all want to do, and it's up to you whether you trust me, but I've put all my cards on the table. Please think before casting your votes.