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  1. Astra125
    Ok, let's do this. Unvote Candy Vote Bean
  2. Astra125
    Arch, from your list of reads, it looks like that you believe Newt and Nano are the remaining town, to which I disagree with Nano but that is not the point I want to address right now. This means that Anti, Candy and I would have to be lynched based off of your reads for town to win. To be honest, I don't really care you suspect me right now as I'm trying to look at the bigger picture here. I believe Candy is the mutineer as she seems to not even address this role as one of the roles that have to be eliminated and still haven't despite me pointing this out. This means that even if a mafia dies this phase, there will be probably two deaths the next day as both mafia and the mutineer need to kill in order to win. The doctor can save one life but this would mean someone dies no matter what and if that ends up being a townie, our chances to win go down a lot. However, if the mutineer is killed today, then there will only be one death as only the mafia will kill. Even if there are still two mafia left, this situation is much more favorable for town as the doctor can stop the mafia kill and as long as the doctor can stop one kill, town will win as long as we can pick out the final two mafia since there will be one more town than mafia whenever the doctor saves someone. So Arch(and Newt for whenever you get on), I ask that you shift your vote to Candy as I think she is the mutineer and the mutineer dying now will give town the best chance to win. I would also ask Nano to do this but it seems like he wants me dead
  3. Astra125
    There are two reasons that come to me as to why you might have voted Drago despite being on the hypothetical mafia team. First is busing Drago, which at that point and time would make very little sense so I’m mostly rolling this out. Second is trying to gain town credibility as the some of the mafia could vote out one person while other mafia vote on the mafia so they could say what your saying. However, this is if I believe you are mafia to which I don’t. My list for mafia is Nano and Anti as Nano has been off this entire game and had contributed close to nothing if anything at all and Anti is the last one left on my list that doesn’t have a role. Why do I say that? Well Candy conveniently left out one last role that we have to get rid of in order to win, the mutineer. Considering that she didn’t include that role, I believe she is the mutineer. If she wasn’t the mutineer, she should have said that all three of Arch, Anti and me should get lynched as no matter which role each of us have, all three of us would have to be lynched in order for town to win. However, she didn’t say anything like that which makes me think she trying to hide that she’s the mutineer so this is what I propose. Everyone lynch Candy regardless of what ailment your on as she is someone we all need dead in order to win. Eliminate Candy Also, Anti and Nano, if you guys want to say anything, now is the chance because as I said, you guys are my suspects.
  4. Astra125
    Alright, I'm in the hot seat so let me address this. First I derped on your vote Candy because checking back on it, I don't know why I said Jelly. I was under the mind set that since the rivals were basically revealed at that point, we should have lynched someone who didn't have their role revealed so those we voted to take out a rivial stuck out to me. This leads into my second point which was that I had no clue what to read you or Drago at that point. Both of you had two posts that didn't lean either of you two in one direction all that dominantly. If your going to use that logic that I couldn't decide Drago's aliment, then you and Arch could possibly be mafia as I basically said I had roughly the same reads on all three of you.
  5. Astra125
    @Aldo Don’t vote Lykos. He’s one of the two rivals along with Bean.
  6. Astra125
    Since we’re basically on our own without a cop, I’m going to post my reads since we should lynch one of the non-rivals because otherwise, the mafia will pick us off one by one as all of the tp role besides the mutineer have been revealed. 1: Bean  - Rival. We leave him alone with his war with the hand. 2: Drago - I’m not sure what to think of Drago. His posts don’t have me leaning in on direction of another. 3: Newt - No idea who Newt might be. His only post was voting NIcki but I feel like he would do that on D1 if he was mafia for fun. 4: Nano - Nano seems a little off. Unusually quiet and only voting the people who voted him. I think I know what town role he might be if he’s not mafia. 6: Anti - Anti is a mix bag. I do believe he was confused on the rival role since the question is how did Jelly end up with a gun. He might be scared of the mutineer since he has been the only one to really mention the role besides me. Mutineer is a role we have to get rid of to win but his focus on the role is slightly off putting. 7: Astra - It’s me. Of course I think I’m good. 8: Arch - One of the new people and I don’t have a good read on Arch. Gut is leaning on a slight townread but that is my feeling on most people I’m not sure about. 10: Lykos - We leave him alone with his war with the bean-chicken hybrid. 11: Aldo - Despite being one of the new people, Aldo is the one I read as town the most. Active in trying to find mafia and while Aldo might be an active mafia, his posts lean me more towards being town. 16: Candy - Sort of in the same boat as Arch and Drago. The most stand out thing was voting to lynch Jelly, which could have been an attempt for a safe vote since she was one of the first to vote Jelly.
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    Aldo, I think you're asking the impossible right now. The only roles that we know that can kill are the cop, hunter and mutineer. Cop is dead but he would have gotten a gun if the virgin died before him. Hunter is the same thing except that they can kill someone if they are lynched. That leave the mutineer as the one who killed Nicki as even if mafia has a separate killing role, they wouldn't target their own and the mutineer would probably never reveal themselves since town needs them dead for us to win. Here's my vote for now. Eliminate Nano. I can change it later when more posts come.
  8. Astra125
    Alright, things are looking up a small bit. No town was killed and mafia is down one. Sopheria’s angle role could helped us or not but since we don’t know who she was protecting it doesn’t help us all that much. As for the gun situation, if you got a gun and are town, keep quiet and look for the mafia. If your mafia, I kindly ask that you to never use it as if they would listen to me. I’m assuming the gun giver didn’t bother with giving a gun to the known rivals since they would use it on each other which won’t help town or mafia depending which side they’re on.
  9. Astra125
    To be honest, a gun giving mafia role seems off to me as why would they give a gun to Jelly instead of one of their mafia pals. Seems a bit risk when they don't know who Jelly is and that he could have ended up shooting them back. Could Jelly and Lykos be mafia claiming the rival roles? However, it wouldn't be a good idea to use the gun this early if they were mafia and would have to be lucky to hit a rival for this to pan out so Jelly, Lykos and Bean are probably the remaining rivals. I'm not going to completely deny the gun giving mafia since I have no idea how Jelly ended up with a gun and it's possible but I'm skeptic to the idea. Placeholder vote for now: Eliminate Arch Also Aldo, you don't want spilled beans. It's a mess to clean up. Then again, there's a war going on between a bean, a jelly and a hand so beans might be spilled anyways.
  10. Astra125
    I'm in
  11. Astra125
    Decides not to check this until the morning and sees three dead and the rivals revealed. Also, the cop is dead. Nurse too but hey, we at least still have a doctor Well... we got our work cut out for us. Anyone have any ideas or do we blindly shot at one of the people that's not the rival.
  12. Astra125
    When your goal was to survive longer than the first game and you get N0ed. So this is it’s like to be N0ed. Good luck my red people. Come out on top.
  13. Astra125
    Put in 2 vigilantes in the starting set up and end this N0
  14. Astra125
    OH NO, I’VE BEEN CAUGHT. Whoops. Yeah I meant a non-visiting town role. I wonder if I derped anywhere else in my post.
  15. Astra125
    Ok. I’m actually going spend some time on this and try to break this down a bit. How did mafia Sopheria die? There are 3 possible situations that I can think of. The first is what everyone is thinking what happened, a town role kill her. The roles that come into mind for this are the obvious vig or maybe Sopheria visited the granny. Of course there could be other roles but those are the roles that came to me. The second is the tp. We don’t know the tp role so whoever had it might have killed Sopheria. Lastly, maybe mafia did this to themselves. They have a chat so they could have used their visits on each other to figure out their roles since we can’t visit ourselves to figure out our own roles. Now, how did Kiet die? The above for how Sopheria died plus the mafia kill can explain how Kiet died. Finally, was Ali the one who killed Kiet? Considering that Lia didn’t mention anyone else, the assumption is that only Ali visited Kiet. However, Ali said he visited Lia. This means that it’s likely Ali’s action was redirected towards Kiet but we don’t know what action got redirected. Could have been a kill or something else like giving an item. It’s likely to be a kill but maybe Kiet visited the granny and died that way. Since we have no idea, we don’t know for sure if Ali was the one who killed Kiet. Conclusion, after actually thinking through this, I don’t think we should vote off Ali since we don’t have the entire idea of what happened. Maybe Ali is the vig. There is the possibility that Kiet blindly protected someone from the mafia kill and Sopheria visited the granny. Or Ali is actually mafia and the vig killed Sopheria. Unvote Ali Eliminate Lykos Lykos is my placeholder vote for now since I don’t know who to suspect right now. This doesn’t mean that Ali is off my radar. Is just after thinking things through a bit, Ali may not be the best to vote for right now. Also, to those who think I’m defending Ali really hard right now, you can vote me if you want. I don’t fear dying right now since I have a non-town visiting role. I’m doing mostly nothing during the game unless someone visits me action wise. I say it would be a waste of town’s time but go for it if you feel like it I have two votes already. I’ll be laughing at you guys from the grave as you guys try to figure out your roles and be totally wrong. P.S. Writing this on my phone sucks so if I made some errors, sorry and I’ll maybe make another post to clarify things if I have time.
  16. Astra125
    Hmm. That's better than nothing. Eliminate Alistair Two mafia down and one to go maybe. and possibly the 3rd party
  17. Astra125
    Nothing happened to me and I have no NA. I'm very sad that I'm not doing anything until someone visits me and probably kill me
  18. Astra125
    If I get a killing role, I’ll N0 Bok. #Burnthetree
  19. Astra125
    Putting this in a different post just in case. Eliminate Anti Disclose Piercer Anti because I'm more off put by him than Drago and disclosing piercer because I don't think disclosing vanilla townie will do anything and hoping the tie will be broken for the piercer by someone else.
  20. Astra125
    Sorry for being gone. Been preoccupied with other things. Anyways, time for an info dump because I a few things to say from what I've read. First is what might have happened during the night. I don't completely believe that the ancient being killed last night. Considering that Ali could have been the target for the mafia kill, Kiet could have just been killed by a town role. Granted, with how incompetent the mafia are the first two days played out, the mafia kill could have been stopped again since I don't think it would be balanced for the town if their only way to be protected by the mafia is an ability that stops working day 6. (I would have more but my theory of Kiet being the Immolator fell when I realized Nick was lynched, not killed). Second, Bean seems tp to me because this is how he acted in Bok's second disney game when his wincon changed to killing everyone. However, with the role list not listing tp roles, I don't think that Bean is tp. He could be puppeted instead with how the last day ended and mafia taking advantage of the situation. Then again, the problem with this theory is that mafia knew Bean wasn't going to be lynched which leads to a whole new mess of problems of wounding how mafia knew. I think Bean is Bean right now and leaving him alone for now is the best way to deal with him. Third, I think the messed up titles and names might be something we have to figure out to give us a clue to the last thing Alaris said in the opening about a greater threat. First the last part of the forum names changes(Below 2 to BeLow Z to something I don't remember N to Below 2). Then was Nick's messed up name before he was lynched. Finally, the discord channels being flipped and written backwards. I think that is something that has happened to everyone and if not, I think I need some help then XP. Does anyone have an idea what this might mean because I'm still lost on it. Finally, suspicions. Anti and Drago stick out to me the most. Anti because with how he's been pushing the lynch on Candy. I believe is Candy is town since she was the first target for the puppetmaster. I don't believe mafia would target themselves as the first target since the way Candy posted, it would draw too much suspicion on the first day where there wasn't much info. People acting awkwardly could be an easy target to lynch, something the mafia might not what to risk that early. As for Drago, look at Kiet's reads and his reads. Some of them are very similar, noting reads on Anti, Nicki, Sopheria and me. Anti taking risks, Nicki feeling off, Sopheria being new and using the same words for me. Them having the same reasoning on me is what drew me to it and while this could be a coincidence, since Kiet was mafia, this became off putting to me.
  21. Astra125
    Tbh, I don't really know what's happening besides Bean trying to not get himself lynched and puppetmaster analysis. I'll have to read up on this later and try to be useful next phase. Eliminate Astra
  22. Astra125
    Can I ask why the title keeps changing and should we be worried about that? Disclose Piercer
  23. Astra125
    The special thing about this mafia game is that town roles have a secondary ability that is unlocked when we fulfill a certain condition (ex. role a visits role b or role a completes their action x amount of times -> unlocks role a's secondary ability). However, we don't how to unlock those abilities but voting in a role twice will reveal how we can unlock a role's secondary ability. The reason why I brought up revealing town roles is because it takes two days for useful information to be reveal to the town and the first reveal would really only be helpful for mafia. Revealing mafia roles is fine for now since it gives us info on how they might act but I think we should switch to town revealing at some point so some roles can use their secondary abilities to fight the mafia and I'm totally not saying this because I want to know how to reveal my own ability. Of course, there is the off chance for one of us to accidentally trigger our abilities, which in that case is the better scenario as then we don't need to was a reveal on that role. Also, why you copy my votes? Is there something I need to know about? I won't tell.
  24. Astra125
    I think there are roles similar to cop and doc roles since the mayor with appear third party on investigations regardless of their original faction so that mean there is a very high probability that there is an investigation role. It just probably has some quirk that sets it apart. I’m going put some placeholder votes too. Disclose Puppetmaster Eliminate Bean
  25. Astra125
    Wait. I thought two roles were revealed. Looks at revised rules again. Well I derped and feel stupid for my last vote. On the topic of the role votes, should we try to reveal town roles. Seems kinda unproductive since it’ll take two days to get the secret part of the role for someone to make use of, especially since we can only reveal one role per day. On the flip side, town does get more info on the roles and mafia doesn’t know specifically who has what role unless they have a role scouter which I don’t know. As for other info, I’ve got nothing.
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