Roswell

TFW you convince enough people to vote for a townie that you get the win for the mafia:

I was gonna ask how I died whilst I had still had a vest. I mean, I'd partially assumed I'd just had a fake vest somehow. But anyway, hooray~

@CrimsonDragon21 I have some points to make with regard to what you said: 1. "This Information said, that Seal visited DigitalAmber. That confirms that Seal has an investigation Role." How does one confirm the other exactly? All it really proves is that Seal didn't kill anyone. 2. "Remember the people who instantly voted Ruby are probably Mafia. Roswell get you guys to vote Ruby, cause he knew that the chances you get Mafia is 1/4 with good reasons." I suggested that the numbers implied a better chance of Ruby having a mafia member because it was more likely that, of the 4 members left in mafia, 2 of them were in the biggest group left (assuming they decided to split evenly). That, and there was the possibility they chose to fill one group to try and get out of being eliminated at all if they were lucky, which only Ruby would now qualify for, being the only group that could fit all 4 of the remaining mafia. If I made a mistake, I made a mistake, but I did what I thought had the best odds of giving us a chance of having mafia. That and Paul had already suspected 2 members of Ruby. There's also the fact that all of 4 people voted in the 24 hour space there, so none of them were really "instant" votes, but w/e. Gotta be honest, kinda inclined to think the two of you are mafia trying to get a win by bandwagon'ing on Candy. Your roleclaims don't seem convincing to me, given what's missing.

I'm assuming the usual post requirements are for the day as a whole, and not each part, right? Anyway, gonna get a vote down now, just so I don't forget to later. In terms of suspicious characters, the two I'm most inclined to believe are mafia are Seal and Candy (since both of them were people that Paul suspected of being mafia until he died, with a fairly logical reasoning to it). Of the two (assuming they aren't both mafia, which is a valid option, considering the numbers), I'm inclined to have slightly more faith in Candy, seeing as they seem to have made a greater contribution to town than Seal has, and did defend themselves when Paul made the accusation, whereas Seal just didn't (which, looking at it now, kinda comes across to me as trying to not draw attention to the accusation, but IDK.) So, for now at least, [Eliminate] Seal

TFW Dive's text says that we lose if we don't mislynch :S Anyway, considering the numbers of mafia members remaining as well as the group composition, I'm inclined to believe the best odds of getting a mafia member from this process is by voting for Ruby, so... [Vote] Ruby

RNG says [Join] Sapphire, so I guess that's where I'll go. This is where it turns out everyone in Sapphire gets murdered, doesn't it.

Anyway, since we have L'Belle pretty much locked in as mafia (unless there's a role that can pretend to be another person, which seems unlikely), and I need to get my post count up, let's go over the numbers. As it stands, we're currently at 9 non-mafia to 6 mafia (Taking "villains" from the infomation given last night to mean mafia, since it being non-town would make the point that none had been lost incorrect). Assuming L'Belle is mafia (which, again, doesn't seem to be much of a stretch, considering what happened during the night), we're then at 9 non-mafia to 5 mafia. The following night phase then, in all likelihood, has another mafia kill, which leaves us at 8 to 5, meaning, if any remaining third parties support town (admittedly not a small if) we have 1 more mislynch, then we're in LYLO. Depending on 3rd party influence, we may be at MYLO tomorrow night. Granted, there are multiple ways this could change/be incorrect (potential guns/vests, for example), but running off of the assumption that we have at most one more mislynch seems like a decent thought process to me.

Well, no reason to hesitate, so thanks, sailboat. [Eliminate] L'Belle

In the absence of anything else to go on... [Eliminate] Paul25 [Reasoning: Seeming to vote for Amine on the basis of a post that, based on post counts, did not happen, comes across as a mafia trying to put suspicion on someone else to me] I'll admit to not being hugely confident on this one, but at this point I have to vote for someone, and this seems like the best choice.

I'm Spartacus And have we had a Jester before, for that matter? There probably has been one, but I'm too lazy to find it.

That makes sense, I guess, although we'll only know that's what happened if we see the Court disintegrate tomorrow. Also, good to know re. the bids. It's looking like I'd be fine for it either way, but it's nice to not have the pressure in case I forget XD

Still doesn't explain why Jace thought the Court would most likely hit a mafia member next, but I guess that makes sense, Nick. And, if it's anything like WitchHunt, Court doesn't vote in new members, only holding the ones that originally formed it, so that's not it either, Jace.

...right, King's Court gets a kill too, meaning mafia having a 2nd killer would have likely caused 3 deaths rather than 2. Not impossible, mind you, but less likely. Also, doesn't the Court disband if it gets to 2 or less members, if it's like in WitchHunt? I might be reading your post incorrectly, Jace, but I'm not sure why you particularly think the court will kill a mafia member next.

I only vaguely remember Owner's Market, so for clarification: Are only the people who made successful bids required to uphold them, or is everyone required to match their bids? Also, since Nick pointed it out, has there been a mafia role in the past games that could make an attack in addition to the mafia kill? I feel fairly confident that there was, but I can't think of where it would have been.

Oh well, guess I'm dead. NGL, I thought Amine was the one with the most votes (which should probably be something that is made clear, BTW). Now, for the traditional (at least for me) death meme. Good luck, y'all.

OK, given that the reason that I voted for Amine was to get information that he provided, I guess I'll change my vote to [Eliminate] YinYang, if only because it seems like he was the current main suspect for shooting Bean (based on how he apparently was given a gun, with no other gunmakers coming forward). Not saying that I've got a particular confidence that he's guilty, but it's one of the few leads I can think of (and I do need to vote for somebody), and I'm not quite sure what the reason for the Bok bandwagon is.

I mean, the relevant info (that comes to mind, anyway) is that: 1) Town either has a gun-giving role or someone was a role that started with a gun (since I believe every mafia role that has given out weapons in the past has given out fakes - Could be wrong on this). 2) There is a gift giver of some description, based on CrimsonDragon's testimony. 3) There is either a role with no Night Action, or a roleblocker, based on my own testimony. 4) The role in point 1 is likely a gun-giver, considering Amine said (or at least implied) he gave someone a gun (not confirmed to be the same gun, so could be more guns in play). 5) There is most likely both a Janitor and either a granny or an ambusher, based off of the night actions. In the absence of any other information, I'm voting to [Eliminate] Amine, if only so he'll tell us who he gave the gun he said he made to, and not to actually get a lynch on him.

@Alaris That is a correct assumption.

My action failed. Dunno if that means I was roleblocked or not, but it's something, at least.

You claimed that "if I roleclaim, it will directly affect the game, for the bad" (Quotes aren't working for me for some reason, so I'm just C+P'ing). Which, compared to Amine, who, regardless of whether you trust what he said, has given information freely, does appear to be you being unwilling to show anything.

I mean, FWIW, Dive, I was just making a guess as to the Doctor being responsible for my survival. I'm just as confused as to how I survived the night as you are. And since it looks like I'm now being put up for voting, I feel like I need to get involved in the Newt vs. Amine vote. Given how unwilling Newt's been to show anything compared to Amine, I'm now inclined to vote them out. So, [Eliminate] Newt, I guess. Sorry, Newt.

I see. Fair enough then. With that in mind, I'm gonna switch my vote to [Eliminate] Purplecicada. Mostly just due to wanting to stay out of the Amine vs Newt vote for now, since by the looks of it cicada's not said much.

In the absence of anything else, I'm voting for [Eliminate] Alistair, both because I need to vote for somebody, and like sailboat I want to see what his N2 action did and voting for him might get him to spit it out. I'll likely change this once Alistair responds, though. (Also, it's not until someone tells you that 4+ syllable words are dangerous that I realise how many of them I normally use XD)

I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you, Lia, but it could just be that whoever the lawyer is had the same thoughts of me looking suspicious that Amine initially had (which led to him investigating me) and wanted to make me look guilty. Could've also just RNG'd it due to not knowing of anyone particularly suspicious too, IDRK. There does seem to be some suitable options for lynching, but I'm gonna wait until the day (and discussion) has progressed somewhat before voting. Meanwhile, I find the way this role is named confusing, so I'll ask to [Disclose] Perfectionist.

I mean, I'dve been killed at the beginning of the night, as the quoted text says, which is technically during the night, so it sounds like it could fall under the doctor's purview. At least, that's how I interpreted it.