Lord Drakyle

Nah, you are just too fun to bandwagon.

maybe not on it's own but Nicki seems a tad too overprotective of you that and the fact as soon as things turned in your favor certain individuals became awfully quiet.

There is no more or less that you can do that i can do as for anyone else here, yet we are still using what we have learned so far to try establish some understanding of what to keep in mind, nor can i change the outcome of this day magically either. That doesn't mean i expect anything of you, it's already clear you don't intend to even try to help the town such as trying to establish what could the info we learned mean or of those players in this game who seems suspicious.

You flatter yourself if you think im trying to convince YOU im town Not really, since the difference is that the duration of you having the most votes was not even done out of thinking you was mafia, just that you offered the least to the town, the difference is people think im mafia, here's another hey difference I'm not trying to prove im town like Nicki thinks and i'm not trying to turn the votes around, i'm trying to help establish what can still be possibly learned in this day phase with how many we have including my support. Something you seem to still neglect to be trying to do for the town i might add.

Candy says their role is of little town use, that reduces how many roles they might have to very few, of those i know 2 of the remaining roles in that small list that Candy does not have and therefore reduces the list smaller

Not saying to lynch them, just keep an open mind. If i do die in this game i would much rather it happen during the night at the hands of the mafia, so that i can laugh at their wasted kill, because my role is not the one they should fear.

Alaris, trust me when i say this, if Candy truly has a visiting role but isn't much use to the town then you can kick Cop, Doc and Bodyguard right off that list which leaves very few remaining possibilities, but of the two visiting roles i know candy can't have there is not many left Candy could have that don't have too much use to the town, further i would like to to clarify, was the information you got strictly that "two people 'attempted' to visit Corso?" the word attempted suggests both people failed in which case if someone hasn't spoken yet they might also be one of the attemptees by claim, or someone doesn't want to say they tried to visit corso and risk being accused of being a mafia, simply put we don't know if attempted is covering both failed and successful visits. that is to say since my ability does no harm yet was unable to work on Corso the possibilites are: A.) Corso is immune to any role that doesn't intend to kill. B.) I was roleblocked It's more likely i was roleblocked but lets keep an open mind to this other possibility. I would want to say Candy probably has more likelihood of a mafia role if it's not very useful to town and very few remaining possibilities however, it is very subjective and from Candy's point of view so we don't know just how valuable it actually is or if they simply don't want the mafia to look at them too early.

eh you can ask Amber why they made my role and another role share a chat but we both have our own ability that we can use, thing is other than themself i'm the only person who could tell you who it is i share a chat with as well as what they do.

I never said i was speaking to solely you, not to mention knowing the name of my role doesn't tell you what my role can do or who of the players i share a chat with.

Seeing as the odds are i will be lynched im guessing you expect me to roleclaim and tell you what i know to try persuade you to change your votes? Well that's not happening, You will find out i am town, what you won't learn is what i could have learned or what the person i share a chat with learns, that is the price you pay, if simple things like defending oneself or trying to establish facts while a number of people have voted to lynch you is considered mafia like behaviour, then no one is innocent, and only the innocent do i yield info or support to.

If you have time to read you at least have time to say something even in the early start of the game anything from thoughts on what someone has said or something you learned counts.

Actually Seal, since you talk like you read the posts before now, you would know people were somewhat pointing fingers or wanting to place votes on those who haven;t spoken yet, my main concern was these people may not be aware the game started like some people who turned up late were, the fact is you APPEAR to have been aware the game started but was silent all the way up until now, therefore not only was it odd i felt the people who seem to be also active would be best called to have a look and see what they think, i hadn't even placed a vote on you yet you already jump on the lynch Drakyle bandwagon. What are you afraid of in me calling for some people to voice their opinions really? EDIT: forgot this part but considering, you seem so wary of me at least inviting people for their opinion i'm getting bad vibes off of you, Venus may be not very talkative but at least he isn't jumpy of someone asking for others opinions, again i stress, why are you so concerned that i would ask others for input or is that somehow scummy now for someone on the spot to ask for opinion from someone else? Just because i have the most votes to be lynched so far, DOES NOT mean i'm automatically scum and cannot continue to talk to the other players or ask for their opinions, try being more considerate of that fact, not to mention, i'm not ASKING for them to analyse a sentence, i'm asking for their opinions on your sudden emergence now in the day's last 24 or less hours when you seem aware of all that transpire before. [Unvote] Venus [Eliminate] Seal Quiet is one thing but jumpy is another.

Oh hey, Seal emerged but then....does that mean Seal has been aware the game started this whole time and just didnt talk? @Mr. Knightly @NickCrash you two seem to be most actively trying to be analytical, whats your thoughts on Seal's sudden appearance and seemingly must have been reading everything so far but just didnt talk? EDIT: @purplecicada purplypurps, forgot to ping you too, i want your thoughts too on Seals apparant emergence after having likely been just sitting and reading silently but not really speaking until now.

Newt, you realise the walls of text originated from people not reading and provoking me? Also i am town and my role can still prove useful given time, rather there are people this day phase who have shown that they have no interest in giving input and only want to put support to condemning someone to a lynch

my thoughts on Newt/Jeff are he is far too concerned with why announcements weren't done differently as well as the fact he has to actually take time to read. definitly worth attention, but would rather not risking being lynched by shifting vote to him because not enough votes to put the most on him

similarly, my role aint so useful by itself except when combined with what other roles can do

it wouldn't do to lynch people who haven't spoken yet because they may not even be aware the game started as was quite a few people somehow, however those who haven't contributed much though there may be others Venus just stood out

Also complete shot in the dark but what if the Card Numbers have something to do with the role, maybe 2 of Hearts has literally 2 hearts and can survive the first attack on them? dunno about 5 or 7 but i would wager maybe Ace is a strongman? the Knave is the only one referenced in the films i know of which had them constantly in pursuit of Alice in one of the films while in the cartoon they were on trial for failure as a soldier so an apprentice role or something? anyone know if 5 or 7 the numbers themself have any importance in ways because i dont think Lucky 7 would incorporate into mafia as how would you utilize luck as a role?

I have been trying to help i never claimed i was scumhunting either, but rather voting someone who doesn't appear to be trying to contribute at least, furthermore the comment about analysis is aimed at those who go around throwing accusations yet from what they say haven't done very much reading at all. I'd rather note vote the non talkers yet as we have quite a few people turning up late not aware the game began so i can't really read ANYTHING from them, everyone else here started talking when they turned up, giving input is seeking what others had to offer to try and contribute somehow, you turned up, cast a vote and barely spoke. It comes across to me like you are trying to avoid attention. If we can;t vote out someone because they read as scum the next option is to vote someone who doesn't seem to want to contribute, near the beginning when i first began speaking i started raising questions and information came to light. Corso was visited by two people - Alaris's claim learned through a penguin. (this if true tells us a penguin is in the game) i attempted a visit on Corso but my action failed, however Candy claims to have been the second visitor and didnt have any difficulty visiting him, which suggests i got roleblocked (my original assumption before then was Corso got jailed/roleblocked preventing me visiting him), this gives us info regarding the presence of a roleblocker also useful to know. from what we read in digital's phase change post Lia's death doesn't appear to be something the Queen of Hearts was are of who we can assume probably would know about kills performed by town (most likely vigilante if we assume the King is a Mayor, though could be Judge too). As a townie with a visiting role i would rather not die to a lynch because of an early poster who again i stress didn't seem to do any reading at all and would prefer to vote someone who we can agree is of suspicious nature but due to silent people and the info we still don't know it's hard to make a call on who is scum. That said @NickCrash What's your thoughts, using what we know so far and what we have seen so far does anyone stand out in your mind?

well as things stand im shifting my vote back to Venus for two reasons since the meme-ing stops now: A.) I don't want to die obviously and the first vote on me i just think was pretty stupid and done without reading Nicki's im not sure why it remained since the voting before with the switching was for giggles and sillyness B.) Venus has been making minimal effort to provide input to the town or even speak so they seem like the least of a loss for now, but really we need to start getting serious with these votes or we will have a mass of people die at once and we don't want that but we also shouldn't vote people impulsively and should actually read and analyse what they have said if you intend to accuse them of being suspicous without fully taking in what they actually were saying or doing. EDIT: forgot to place the vote again [Unvote] Newt/Jeff [Eliminate] Venus

in that case a vote count as things stand would help us to decide who to sacrifise to the Mafia God

No idea how the lynchs are decided in this game yet, might be hitting a majority, might be most voted

is it because if ya vote him he would be at 2 votes putting him at risk? if so ill shift my vote to someone to put 2 votes at a draw should keep them safe for you to joke vote, but i do question why bean is voting you for, for now though for your safety and benus's ill shift my vote to toot toots, no one would miss him anyway [Unvote] Purplecicada [Eliminate] Newt/Toot Toots/Jeff Just don't forget keeping that vote on me puts me at risk too ya know so unless ya really think im Mafia, need to try and keep votes tied for now to hopefully avoid someone lynched just because memes

[Unvote] Venus [Eliminate] Purplecicada Does this enable you to joke vote him purplypurps?

@purplecicadai think it's perfectly valid to vote/pressure vote someone being incredibly quiet. even more so when it triggers the snecki