Lord Drakyle

one of my kids or siblings or wife? (basically anyone listed on my card i'm assuming) If so can ya tell me Esperanza's middle name unless you are a sibling and don't have access to that.

also guys regarding Alaris and the totem they recieved? this is from Mafia Universe if anyone was wondering about totems, we can safely say a Shaman is almost guranteed in the game. Shaman Role Description: The Shaman may every night pass on a totem to another player in the game. The Shaman will start the game with several totems at their disposal, all possessing different abilities. If the Shaman successfully passes a totem to another player, the host will publicly announce that the player in question received a totem at the beginning of the next day. Notes: Note that the announcement will not identify who the Shaman is, and neither will it tell any specifics about the totem. Usually, the Shaman may not give themselves a totem or target the same person two nights in a row. Both the Shaman and their target will also usually know what the totem does. Totems can provide the user with any kind of ability (it can even be a day action). This role is very similar to an Inventor apart from the targeted person being revealed publicly.

Sensitive info like someone's role while living is very dangerous to hand out even more so for some people among the town, simply asking comes across as demanding very dangerous info publicly which is why i treated it as a demand. I agreed with Alaris for reasons i stated, i haven't seen the proof of his guilt and when i looked at EpicMafia's mortician role it didn't add up with Nano's claim especially when he suggested the role was changed for this setup which to the extent suggested for minimal would be unlikely, this is NOT a permanent vote by any means, it was placed as i need to vote anyway and is intended to put pressure on Nano to explain things that give me doubts and will be removed if sufficient support for his claim becomes apparent. I was clear last day phase i still didn't trust him then he goes and asks my role which i'm not about to disclose, we have no idea what roles the mafia have but if any of our roles powers get deemed a threat to the mafia we paint a target on our back, i'm not taking that chance. Here's a promise though, i WILL reveal it next day if i'm alive that long, how's that sound?

Checked Mafia Universe, the mortician role can by the looks of it do what nano claimed but rarely and it only described it as a role's full information, this test would actually help prove if it's the case also for the record if i haven't stated it yet i am Manolo Fernandez, my wife is Esperanza C. Fernandez (keeping the middle name hidden so only she or one of my siblings listed on the card can reveal it as proof of who they are.

Also @Nano4brain froze, forgot you claimed mortician which looks at the dead so you can't check my role, if we have someone who can check living roles or alignments (though role would be preferred) then they could check me.

i still aint seen proof of Alaris's guilt or proof that nano gets all information he could be quoting from his own card's info after all, but here's something we can do that would still benefit us either way it goes and help me to believe Nano Nano named 2 people, the parents of the investigated yeah? These 2 people can claim their identitiy as those two people, harmless info yeah, if two mafia's did and were lying the real holders of those names could contest it we would then have 4 suspects to look at which is easy enough for us to work with right? if no one counter claimed then we would have proof of his claim, the chances of both those parents being mafia would be slim after all so the chances of it being used to the mafia's advantage would be slim. EDIT: they would claim to say they are those people and that said person really is their son basically.

Point me to please the proof of Alaris's guilt? As for my role you can look at it come night since you have the ability, assuming it's the truth of course, i am in no way required to submit to your demands when you give equal reason for suspicions. EDIT: Keep in mind this important note: All roles are taken up from EpicMafia and Mafia Universe with minimal to no revisions Minimal revisions does not add up with gaining the power to know 3 things at the same time

I can't say i fully trust Alaris, but to my knowledge Mortician only learns the role not it's alignment, not what it does, at best this info additional is being given as based on what EpicMafia has on the role not what tiny changes may or may not have been made for this game. @Nano4Explain how a role you claimed which should only learn role learned a role's ability and alignment? [Eliminate] Nano4

i'm willing to believe they are a mafia claiming to be mafia role but 3rd party affiliation so we will believe they are something like Jester or Vengeful Spirit and avoid killing them thus allowing them to go about their ways as a mafia unthreatened

Third Party Claim, Castiel claimed that there mafia affiliated names role is third party instead

guess that means you aren't one of the names i am familiar with. Which makes me curious if you knew Rafael at all and if so how we both could know them yet not both know the name i gave you

buh i wasn't speaking to you, that said are you familiar with the name Esperanza? (i think i spelled that right, middle name starting with a C.

i too am a Mr.Fernadez, though the one you are claiming to be is likely not the same as which one i am

@Yaheni do hope that wasn't a threat, the reason for asking for ONE family member's name is it provides a means of knowing if that individual is lying about who their family is and who they are, why one would lie about that who knows but it's worth being able to counter it. Let me be clear though if you don't understand, threatening someone for getting something wrong in a game where little info to no info is known to the majority especially in a closed set up is not a wise move as you are just as much likely to make such mistakes except for when you are mafia or hiding information the town can use. That said ya never did give a single name of a family member yet Nano but given what has arisen regarding the graverobber role there is more important eggs to fry. I'm not ready to trust you yet. @Nano4 [unvote] Nano [Eliminate] Castiel

Assuming you are telling the truth don't reveal the whole family as then anyone can claim to be one of those people and we won't have a way to test it

Well i don't know who that is but there is likely someone here who knows who it is and can confirm it if so.

Easy to answer if it's a me thing, Roswell? do you know your siblings or anyone related to you in any way? you could name one of em if ya want if so since that means someone who knows that name can confirm you know your siblings and therefore pointing out Nano as a liar..

Somehow i'm not convinced, either only i was told the names of those related to me or you are not Rafael Fernandez. Either way i believe the rest of the family will reveal if they agree to vote you, if they know their siblings then you cannot be Rafael. [Eliminate] Nano4 @Roswellthis is how you find people to lynch i guess, that said if others know their own siblings then it's likely there is a role in the game able to learn the names of others.

Tell us? he will show us if he gets one and without a word too. Also here's something we can do @Nano4 You say you are Rafael? Name one of your siblings then, one of whom is NOT a Fernandez.

@Starry Knightperhaps would be a good idea to respond to trade forms in a private message (you can delete the private message once the trade and details are done), to reduce the clutter in here or something?

I AM SUMMONED...oh it's just starry...anyway yeah PM me to arrange the details such as the username and who will send the request etc

i can't guarantee you ideal moves but these pokemon should doif ya set them up with moves you prefer and do the ev training

well i cant offer you Nagandel, but i can give you Kingdra, Sylveon and Decidueye

any specific levels?

what do you count as 'good' it's easier with specifics and do you have any specific pokemon you would prefer to recieve for those types?