jnsvda Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I've tried maybe 50 times, think I'm broke by now, but I can't beat Victoria (when having to face her because of Lin). Her Lucario destroys me every time. Farthest I've come is facing her last Pokémon (Emboar?) but never further. I've tried many times many different strategies, flying, electric, gardevoir with destiny bond, lots of pokémon with earthquake (ko's her raichu) but most of my pokémon just get k.o.'ed in one blow by her.... any tips, any help? I'm desperate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Well assuming what you have there in your signature is your team, a Sturdy golem can very easily take out Lucario by taking a hit then earthquake in return, luxray should be able to safely go toe to toe with her raichu and do enough damage to take it out. @jnsvda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Welp, Lucario is reletively frail,so if you can outspeed and hit with a Super Effective STAB you should be able to take him out,you have Chandelure on your team,Chandelure should deal with him,(I can't remember Victoria's Lucario carries Earthquake or not),Maybe you should invest on Ev's even more or try different mons, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Her team should be mienshao, raichu, gallade, togekiss, lucario and incineroar, right? What's your team? 4 minutes ago, Thundermaze said: Welp, Lucario is reletively frail,so if you can outspeed and hit with a Super Effective STAB you should be able to take him out,you have Chandelure on your team,Chandelure should deal with him,(I can't remember Victoria's Lucario carries Earthquake or not),Maybe you should invest on Ev's even more or try different mons, her lucario is special with shadow ball, not physical, i think, but pyroar can still safely outspeed it and maybe take it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnsvda Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 Thanks for the tip! I do have Chandelure, but didn't find him that effective. I think the problem is, using earthquake makes the field break, and whatever I do, their attacks always land (either night slash or something or flash cannon that uses the field... I come out with noivern, fly mienshao that seemed to be the easiest way to take him down, then she takes out raichu then I earthquake with golem and then she always comes out with gallade and or lucario and it always strand there or after that, at the togekiss. never gotten further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnsvda Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 Just now, walpurgis said: Her team should be mienshao, raichu, gallade, togekiss, lucario and incineroar, right? What's your team? her lucario is special with shadow ball, not physical, i think, but pyroar can still safely outspeed it and maybe take it out My team was (before switching around): Golem, Gardevoir, Pyroar, Blaistoise, Luxray & Chandelure). I do have Thyplosion also sometimes and Noivern i've added instead of Luxray which seemed more useful... but none seem to really work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) Oh,a special Lucario..right~ Chandelure still can take one Non-Stab Shadow Ball and KO back with Flamethrower etc. I always say this: Not EV training properly,will destroy you in Reborn. Edit: Oh right,you can teach your Gardevoir Misty Terrain via Move Relearner if you have Heart Scales,that could give you an edge too. Edited January 27, 2018 by Thundermaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Thundermaze said: Oh,a special Lucario..right~ Chandelure still can take one Non-Stab Shadow Ball and KO back with Flamethrower etc. I always say this: Not EV training properly,will destroy you in Reborn. Edit: Oh right,you can teach your Gardevoir Misty Terrain via Move Relearner if you have Heart Scales,that could give you an edge too. interesting. I've heard you don't need EV training to go through Reborn. Also I wish I had some advice to give, but I'm also in the process of struggling against Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Candy said: interesting. I've heard you don't need EV training to go through Reborn. Also I wish I had some advice to give, but I'm also in the process of struggling against Victoria Big battles like this can screw you over if you don't Ev train, Proven by experience :/ Multiple defeats made me go mad in very old times ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 For what it's worth, I was able to beat E17 without ever EV training a single mon. So I would say that could give you an edge, but you can definitely survive without that. Her team is 50% vulnerable to Ground, so anything that has STAB EQ and can tank at least one hit should be massively helpful. Other than that, on the odd chance that you have a Crobat with Acrobatics (meaning from a previous episode), it should be able to deal with Mienshao and Gallade. Thundermaze's Misty Terrain suggestion is interesting, idk how helpful it would actually be but I'd give it a shot. I hope you'll be able to beat her soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walpurgis Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Thundermaze said: Oh,a special Lucario..right~ Chandelure still can take one Non-Stab Shadow Ball and KO back with Flamethrower etc. I always say this: Not EV training properly,will destroy you in Reborn. Edit: Oh right,you can teach your Gardevoir Misty Terrain via Move Relearner if you have Heart Scales,that could give you an edge too. you're totally right, I was overestimating lucario, chandelure should be able to deal with it and yeah, the AI may be dumb and exploitable sometimes, but the pokemon are all ev trained, have perfect ivs, good natures and items that help them, so if your pokemon aren't ready you're in disadvantage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnsvda Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 hm. Don't know what happend but I beat her. Maybe because by now all my mon are practically lvl 80. Chandelure didn't do the trick (still k.o.) but apparently taking back Luxray and using the field did it... thanks for the help guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, jnsvda said: hm. Don't know what happend but I beat her. Maybe because by now all my mon are practically lvl 80. Chandelure didn't do the trick (still k.o.) but apparently taking back Luxray and using the field did it... thanks for the help guys! Well congrats and good luck further in your journey, feel free to ask for anything ya need, be it help, pokemon, tips or just items. I'm always happy to help if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnsvda Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Another tip for those struggling with the battle: Earthquake to use against her raichu to KO it, but be aware that it breaks the field and it gives way to her dark and ghost moves which are strong. So bring a good electic pokémon that can respark the field for after that. Also works great against her togekiss! I think that might have been my biggest mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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