Xiri Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) This has been slightly discussed in the other thread with the introduction to the new field effects - but apparently we are only supposed to be talking mainly about field effects in that thread so... Who do you think is the gym leader that joins Team Meteor in the next episode? I was bored (aka felt like procrastinating) - so I have been speculating the following: Julia - Not likely. Meteor was planning to blow up her gym - so she should hold some annoyance towards them . Florinia - Some people say Fern could influence her... but she really does not look like the type to be manipulated by Fern. Shelly - Likely. I think someone pointed out that she might be blackmailed to join Meteor in an event regarding Heather (and probably Blake). I really don't want her to join though Shade - ...okay if this happens, everyone can just give up. Aya - Maybe the whole 'kidnap' incident was all an act? Perhaps she was part of Meteor beforehand... Serra - Uh... don't think so. I think she would try to stop her son from being involved with Meteor's activity - rather than joining him Noel - ...nah Radomus - Pretty likely too. Although I like Radomus, he always seemed to give me a sense of malevolence. (Hmm if Radomus joins Meteor, that means G.Gardevoir will also be turning to the dark side.... shudder) Luna - Unlikely unless El manages to finally convince her or something Samson & Ciel - Probably unlikely. They will probably remain in their post in the circus Charlotte & Saphira - If they join Meteor, they will be on the same side as the Doctor... Hardy - If Meteor threatens him to join them in exchange to Aya's release... he might do so Amaria - I think I read that the RL Amaria suffered from memory loss. The same thing can happen to IG Amaria and she could be easily persuaded by Team Meteor to join them. Titania - We already know she has some connection with the team. I don't think we'll find out what that link is in the next episode (probably in one of the future episodes I presume) Terra - ...okay if this happens, everyone can just give up (2) Adrienn - Probably on the same boat as Amaria. He's probably still a bit clueless to the current states - and Team Meteor could possibly offer to help xem 'cleanse the city' in order for assistance with their plots. ...Yeah I understand some of my opinions could be a bit ridiculous - but it is just pure speculation Edited October 30, 2014 by Xiri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Well unless you count former leaders, it can be pretty much narrowed down to these In my opinion. Hardy Aya Serra Shelley - (I like your theory) Titania - (Connections already speculated) Amaria - (This seems like a classic shocker plot twist) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Shelley - (I like your theory) Oi, that was my theory. Anyway, I'd prolly remove Aya and Serra from the list. Some people would add Radomus, but I trust him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Rain Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 What if it's none of the above? I'm betting it's a leader that we haven't met yet. Geeze, will he/she/xe even accept a gym battle or just focus on killing everyone? Heck the Elite 4 is becoming more evil nowadays (except for that bug nerd, I have a strange feeling he's on our side). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Julia - I don't see this one either, but it's not -because- her gym was targeted for demolition per se, as much as it is that she is threatened along side the player by the Meteors after the infiltration. Florinia - Probably not. Partially due to the same reason above, as well as partially being too busy and too much of a past character for it to really make sense to us as players. The shock value would definitely be there though. Shelly - I don't exactly know what you guys are reading into here... The angle makes sense, but I feel like Shelly wouldn't directly be placed in harm's way and as such could depend on the player to prevent any harm to Heather. I'm not exactly up to date in-game though. Shade - Shade seems to be an equalizer. I don't think he would shift any power to any one side, and therefore I doubt he is involved. Aya - Put it down in the "suspect" column. Aya may -still- hold relevant disdain for Cain who is an active opponent of the Meteors. She's not one you can immediately attribute good intentions to, because she's full of self doubt and angst. She seems like she could be the "easy dupe" leader to target... Serra - This washed up model is accustomed to losing everything she once held dear, but if she was given the opportunity to get it all back by a certain organization, -would- she? Serra is a weak female character, but I doubt she would pass on any chance at redemption that was thrown her way. Noel - The only reason to consider either of the twins for this "betrayal" is the pure shock value it would have. There's not much sense involved here, because that would put the orphans back in the clutches of Dr. Connal. Radomus - There's two factions with Radomus really... You either were very suspicious of his aloofness and believed a previously met character in Elias because of it, or you caught on to his cunning and appreciated it, resulting in siding with him before the battle with the Ditto-Arceus. If you thought the Psychic Leader was very aloof to begin with, you -should- suspect him. I'm -really- sold this man is either malevolent (and thus possibly involved with the Meteor plot) or a -very- slippery character by the fact that you have to GIVE Anna's pendent to him for reasons that don't really get explained by anything other than curiosity. The jewelry seems to be very important in the game, and for us to hand it over to him is enough to put him in the list. The question some of you may have though, is this. Would it be "shocking" enough? I think it would - for those that trusted him enough. Luna - Not enough evidence to suggest that Luna would be working with the Meteors directly. She's a bit nomadic, and loves darkness, but those are too vague to attribute her actions to. She seems to have a beef with El's cult and until I know the cult isn't linked to Team Meteor more conclusively, I won't suspect Luna much at all. Agate Triumvirate - None of these are terribly likely. Not enough known about them. Titania - If it wasn't obvious before, then you might be shocked. This lacks shock value more than any other option, due to an event in-game that the player witnesses. I'm not going to say this -confirms- her being a Meteor, but if there's supposed to be shock value, this is not going to deliver. Amaria - Memory Loss is a TERRIBLE reasoning behind suspecting her, unless Titania is -not- a Meteor. Amaria very recently suffered a serious injury at the hands of Solaris. That's not something that is easy to forgive and will linger even if more screws come loose. Keep in mind that Amaria is one of Shade's monitored characters (in his gym) and that the theme behind those monitored events is a clairvoyant glimpse into the death of said character. Titania -may- kill Amaria, but it's more like because Amaria will try to intervene on TM's plans than it is Titania trying to stop them. That is of course, if the inverse is true. Titania is -indeed- the good girl of the two when the dust settles. I'm not saying you can't suspect her, but her memory loss isn't a selling point to me. Hardy - This guy is a possibility. If Aya is placed in danger and the terms of her survival include Hardy working for the Meteors, He -might- do it. Shock value? Present. Motive? Present. A good suspicion. Saphira's clan - Nope. Not going to side with the Doctor unless it's revealed that he really isn't that much of a bad person and has new motive to suggest so down the road. Aya. Serra. Hardy. Radomus. TItania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaunt Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 1) Radomus - i trust him and really don't think he will join them (he even fought against them if you remember) but he can "temporary" join them to deceive and disrupt their operations (this is possible). 2) Hardy - can be coerced to "join" them using Aya but that will end as soon as he gets to her so it's not a "real" betrayal. 3) Adrienn - i don't know really why but i suspect xem, maybe because xe doesn't know what Team Meteor have done or maybe founds someone xe knew from before in their organization. 4) Flobot - maybe because of Fern (unlikely but can happen) or because she meets Titania and flobot.exe stops working, she is suspect too. The rest of the leaders are not so likely to betray us imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuthorReborn Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 People keep saying Adrienn, but I doubt it. Xe seems more like someone who would take more a sensible approach to restoring the region. Perhaps if Lin was not on charge of Meteor, he would join, but as it stands, it is unlikely. If Solaris were still in charge, could see Xim joining them, but Lin's methods are too dark and drastic for the Fairy Gym Leader to condone. Radomus is a genuinely a good guy. Sure. he may be a bit quirky, but in the end, he wants what's best for Luna and G.G. He may be a master of deception, but I feel if he were to join the Meteors, it would have happened back by 7th Street, when the Meteors stormed the castle and would have provided pretty much a free pass to retrieve Luna. Aya betraying because she's angry at Cain? No. That's not happening. Let me explain siblings to you. If you have them, you hate them. You hate them A LOT. And yet, you love them and will always be there for them. Plus, if you chatted with Cain and Aya while they were at the circus, you would see that after some banter/argument, they make up and are just happy that each other are okay. Also, as calm as Cain may be right now, he's probably tearing himself up on the inside for not hanging back with Aya and protecting her, as annoying as she would have found it. Aya is probably furious at him at this point, but she wouldn't betray over it, if anything, she's probably biting the hands of the people who are trying to feed her right now. Hardy seems like the most likely option, since he's desperate to retrieve Aya. He doesn't seem to grasp that the second that the Meteors have what they want, they'll destroy the city. He might whip out his level 90 pokes or something and steal the jewelry from us to save Aya and we'll have to go stop him or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessi Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I believe hardy because of aya,or even both of them.but i doubt any leader will "join" them against us.i believe these are plans to take down Team Meteor from inside.I still believe that fern is the ideator of this.and i believe he is not the asshole well all thought he was.and he will change his attitude at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuthorReborn Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I believe that Fern is in fact a jerk, but he's not that much of a jerk as to betray his sister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlytosion Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The idea of Amaria losing her memory seems to be the ideal situation. Knowing Ame, anything is possible. For all we know, Shade could resurrect Kiki and she turns evil and joins Team Meteor. Plot Twist: that's when Victoria returns to the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mar_mar Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Hmmm...I don't know who will be the gym leader who will betray the others and the main character but I know that what we'll see in the next or the fifteenth episode will be quite unexpected, eventful and twisted in a way..who knows what we'll see? A distraught Amaria joining team Meteor? Radomus changing sides? (Although, I hope he won't coz I think he's a moral character in the game, he is also too smart to be misleaded..), Shelly can be manipulated if Heathers' safety is on the table but something tells me that it won't happen. Looking forward to the next episode! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dei Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Ummm, am I the only one who completed chapter 13? People keep mentioning Amauria and Titania, and all I can think is that they're dead. I mean, everybody else who showed up on Shade's 4 main screens died, soo... Anyways, based off the into we have, one could say it's Randomus. He seemed like a good character, but that's honestly what points to him. He mentions something about light and dark not always being the way they seem and that light could be more blinding than dark at times. I feel like that's some indication. It would be so creepy if Shade turns out to be the spirit of the former leader of Team Meteor. And if somebody would mind reminding me: What part hinted that Titania was a part of Team Meteor, again? Sorry. xD Edited October 31, 2014 by Dei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 She was seen talking to one of their agents in the Aventurine Woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dei Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think I might remember bits of that, actually. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cepheus Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Ummm, am I the only one who completed chapter 13? People keep mentioning Amauria and Titania, and all I can think is that they're dead. I mean, everybody else who showed up on Shade's 4 main screens died, soo... Anyways, based off the into we have, one could say it's Randomus. He seemed like a good character, but that's honestly what points to him. He mentions something about light and dark not always being the way they seem and that light could be more blinding than dark at times. I feel like that's some indication. And if somebody would mind reminding me: What part hinted that Titania was a part of Team Meteor, again? Sorry. xD They are still alive... Amaria jumps, Titania jumps to safe her and shouts at at the player to find a way to meet up with them! (HM Waterfall most likely) They might be heavily injured but not dead! Why? - Because they are both Gym-Leaders we stillö have to battle! and we don't know any possible replacements for them by now... after Corey died we got information about Aya immediatly / after Kiki there was information about Samson... AND there were never any other Leaders in the Reborn League for both types... soooooooo they are the only ones... And Shades something like: "Their fate is in your hands" or something like that... don't know the exact wording anymore... Titanias connection to Meteor is hinted in the Aventurine forest, where she speaks to a Meteor Grunt. -------------------- Topic: Hardy - because of Aya being held hostage and since Charlotte didn't go the rondevouz-point (and stopped us) with meteor, they are most likely pissed and Hardy doesn't want to risk her life and goes mad at us... after the conflict is resolved (and Agate City is free from the sleep-PULSE) he will apologize and we will have our Gym-Battle Aya - The whole kidnapping being staged? I don't think so... Why would she battle through a horde of Meteor Grunts and Knights and Dames with us, to stop a PULSE? Radomus - I trust him. He's a cool logical dude. He saw through Dittos and El's disguise. And I doubt that Gossip Gardevoir would let him do evil things... Luna - NOPE! She's a good girl! She might like the darkness (like I do) but the good kind of darkness not the evil kind. Noel/Saphira/Charlotte/Anna - They'd rather kill themselves then to side with the doctor! Serra - doubt it... she was more like a "standard" gym-leader from the normal games... we only saw her once... and that was during her Gym-battle... Samson/Ciel/Terra - Samson and Ciel are still at the Circus... Terra... she's flying around somewhere, wreckingthings with her Hammer, because "what the f*** is a physics?!?!" ... nah don't think so Amaria/Titania - I doub't we will see them for a whil... at least not in the next episode... and Titania got hinted at but that wouldn't count as betraying, if she is working for them the WHOLE time, does it? Amaria battled with us against team Meteor to stop the Muk-PULSE Adrienn - He doesn't know what is going and is to busy repairing xis Gym Flobot - Flobot is a good girl... and she helped us a few times against Mateor Julia - Nope... They wanted to destroy her Gym... she most likely wants vengance Shelly - I don'T think so... she's to shy for that kind of stuff. Shade - He's more of a balance-type... and his "Corey" most likely want's vengance against meteor... he's either neutral or on our side. I'd say - Hardy is the best bet... because he cares so much for Aya. Second would be Titania, but this was hinted, and *I* don't consider this betrayal if she's working for them all along Edited October 31, 2014 by Cepheus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dei Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I hope you're right, Cepheus. But if that were true, then that would mean that Shade's main screens don't always show a death happening...which would be...interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiri Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Come to think of it, the term 'betrayal' is quite ambiguous. For the case of Hardy and Shelly, they will probably only join if Meteor threatens the person they are close to (in this case, Aya and Heather). Then, they probably wouldn't have any choice but to join them ie they are doing it very reluctantly. I guess the 'shock factor' is still present if they do join - but does that really count as 'betrayal' if they had no choice? Thats why I'm leaning more towards Aya and Serra (I like your theory on her, Hilda). The shock value would be much greater than Hardy - especially if they are like "Ohoho I've been part of Team Meteor all along!" then yes, it would be quite shocking. I'm moving away from Radomus though. Lots of people seem to trust him - and but there are still lots that suspect him. I have a feeling the 'betrayer' is going to be someone that only very little people suspect. ...but then again, my predictions always turn out wrong lol. ...btw am I making sense? It's almost time for me to sleep so I'm probably not saying things clearly enough Edited October 31, 2014 by Xiri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 When did Titania talk to a grunt? I've finished episode 13, and can't remember that ever happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 It happens in a particular part of the Aventurine Woods. It's easy to get to, you don't need to clear any logs or webs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Hmm....I was pretty sure I'd covered the entire area...both north AND south. Found Nyu, Got Joltik and Heracross and all etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 You've probably just forgotten the event happened, it isn't major. If you want details then it occurs in the North Aventurine Woods, in one of the sections that does nothing more than connect two areas of Route 1 together, and the event will only trigger if you walk into that section from the left hand side (or at least it was like that last time I checked). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antares Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 In reality, everyone has potential to join Team Meteor, some less than others. My two cents on any remote reason why: Julia - To save her Gym or something Florina - Maybe convince Fern he's being stupid Shelly - Save Heather Shade - Unknown, he's a spectre so dunno why Meteor would want him Aya - Save Hardy, prove a point to him. Serra - Save Bennett Noel - Save one of the orphans Radomus - "one would wonder how I acquired an outfit such as this in the first place." Remember that? Luna - Stop Elias Samson/Ciel - Save the Circus Charlotte/Saphira - Save her family or the orphans. Adrienn- Still naive as ever. Amaria - Given up on life Titania - To save Amaria if above happens. Hardy - Forced into it for unknown reasons. Terra - For the sake of being T3RR@. Ame has a way of screwing with us, so I speculate it'll be one of the unlikely ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meruem Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 amaria why? 'cause a sudden personality change to that of a yandere would be fucking awesome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted November 12, 2014 Support Squad Share Posted November 12, 2014 Alla Y'all need to believe. Ain't none of the Leaders gunna betray. They were never on our side in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted November 13, 2014 Administrators Share Posted November 13, 2014 amaria why? 'cause a sudden personality change to that of a yandere would be fucking awesome? i'm down with this can this happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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