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4 minutes ago, Draconis said:

Maybe the real bug was the friends we made along the way

Always was, 

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4 minutes ago, fellowry said:

So imagined the sea is the bug?

Maybe everything was bug??

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1 minute ago, R.B said:

Cherrim's not strong on its own, but it's a pretty effective doubles support pokemon- with flower gift and helping hand, it can enable its partner to do quite a bit of damage.  The AI tournament post also mentioned that probably-Laura had a very low win rate when not on flower garden field, so I suspect her team will have a lot of pokemon that seem underpowered in normal play.

Yea, also ik this has been mentioned but its v likely that Lura Bennant will be a fight together where we go 12v6 as Bennett gets massive support from this terrain and Lura is just better in doubles, as her supporting role is g8.

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I think its v likely that Anna uses a victini as well as a milotic due to their ability’s receiving a boost in starlight. Btw rip to any of your mons that get hit with that doom desire, holy moley thats ridiculous! 

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Just now, Amethyst said:

someday !!! but not yet !! the evil power contained within is still too overwhelming-- too corrosive-- for the world yet to handle......................

Aight, then i guess we will leave u guys to bear the pain alone. Good luck soilder!!

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Devs, maybe let us do a lil bit of the testing to reduce the pain 

 

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Ladder=Stairs?????

 

 

 

(Or maybe Cass did lie)

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8 minutes ago, kithas said:

My theory is that Lin is, in some way, the baby Arceus itself (or as you say, a manifestation/proxy/interface) and all that is happening is either to get free from its encasing under the city, or it's just playing like a child would (and, ironically, we, the players). 

 

And I think Lin already "died", at least in one route, by Titania's hand in her gym? It didn't stick, though. 

Yea so obviously no one knows for certain, but i think the common hypothesis is that we r exisiting in an alternate time line. In the original time line we die in the train crash, fern is hero but eventually fails to stop Lin and new world is formed. But at some point before new world is conceived Anna wishes on Jirachi to go back in time to stop this. (This much is supported by Miss Direction's prophecy and Ame’s post). However, while everyone else goes back in time, two people become trapped in between those two being the taciturn person wearing red, who is stated to exist by Miss Direction and Ame in her post, and Lin that being the child Lin that Laura describes she once new. How these people become trapped, we don’t  know, but what we do know is that as a result they gain access to unbelievable power (Which makes me believe that it may have something to do with Arceus ), as this person in red and black becomes Shade who can do all type of crazy stuff, and Lin is able to manifest her ego into an invincible 'robot'. This is supported by Lin's seemingly all-knowing nature, she knew that we were not in meteor, she knew exactly when we would arrive at Tit's castle, she knows all of these things because every new timeline, Anna wishes to be reborn but Lin and Shade are not leaving them to witness the same events repeat themselves. However Shade attempts to alter history and prevent new world by changing the present, this is done through saving us on the train. In this game in don’t  believe we r some chosen one, rather some random guy who was supposed to die on a train, but as an attempt to change a variable, Shade elected to save us hoping that in doing so we would be able to stop Lin.

 

Srry that was a bit rambley and long but i hope u get what im saying.

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1 minute ago, Bananacake887 said:

Yeah the Lin death is bound to happen as seen in Shade's gym, but as Shade said in the Water Treatment Plant, only two people who were in his gym actually die. Corey and Kiki are already past the point of return, which suggests that Lin doesn't die, but we see her getting decapitated which I would imagine would be quite difficult to survive . Therefore the theory that the Lin we see is some kind of projection and that the real Lin is elsewhere seems plausible, and the death we see isn't the 'real' Lin.

Me and @TheRK9 were actually attempting to decipher what lin is, and by reading Ame's post and a few others on the forum we came to the conclusion that the green hair, crazy strong invincible lady we see is not actually lin. That "thing" we see is most likely a manifestation of power idealised by the actual lin who is in the Citae (the voice you heard and the person Adriann saw climb the tower), who has used baby Arceus' power to create this manifestation. Obviously this is purely speculation and may be far from the truth but it makes sense as Anna could not see green hair lin, as she has no soul, and it would explain how even if she died, like she did in Shade's gym, it wouldn’t t be considered death as she was never alive.

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I must say that Ame and co have done a ridiculously exceptional job in providing us with enough info to roughly speculate on the final events while withholding enough info so that nobody actually knows exactly whats gonna happen. It makes for great discussion and adds fuel to the hype train!!

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38 minutes ago, R.B said:

Presumably no one who has a relationship score will die (or at least will die permanently and on all story paths), since those have been stated to only matter for post-game content.

This actually makes a lot of sense and could defo be true! However, we have relationship points currently with Cain, Ciel and Samson, and two of these three people have just been sucked inside a black hole. So ur hypothesis gives me hope that Cain and Ciel will survive being in a place where gravitational force is so strong that it literally bends space and prevents even photons from escaping.

 

Cmon Cain u can do it!!!

 

 

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Personally i wouldn’t t be surprised if at least a few of the leaders, Flobot and maybe Aya, die in this final Ep. Flobot can be replaced by Fern and her death might make him stop acting like a loser. Similarly, Cain can take over Aya's spot as poison leader and her death may serve as a mechanism for him to restore his relationship with his mother.

(assuming that cain is not ded. pls, pls i promise im not puffing large amounts of copium)

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27 minutes ago, andracass said:

ok this is something that i'm willing to help with

there are no new major story decisions

 

Ok so assuming Cass is not lying, either the majority of the events that take place in ep19 are gonna be set in stone, things we are incapable of altering, or they will be based on some previous choice that was made, kinda like how deciding to give Blake the ring ended up killing Ciel. Excited to see how it pans out!!!

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Is it possible that there could be even more major story splits in ep19, equivalent or more significant than that of the reshiram zekrom route?

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1 hour ago, Bananacake887 said:

That makes a lot of sense, especially with how Noel seems to be outclassed by Anna in every way with her having the special abilities, amethyst pendant and most likely being in the elite 4(+ having Jirachi?). It would be nice to see Noel having a significant role in the story for once other than his gym battle.

 

 

His role in the story is just to die as he is used by lin to open the gate

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59 minutes ago, Bananacake887 said:

I would agree with you there regarding the gold and ivory keys being significant in EP19, and with the new world. The two keys are only mentioned in one passage in the Subseven Sanctum (that I'm aware of anyways), and every other book/person only mentions the 4 crystal keys. Perhaps the gold and ivory keys are people, rather than physical objects. Anna refers to the player having a glow, and Bennett calls the player 'the golden child' in the Glass Workstation. If we are the golden key, it would explain why Lin hasn't killed us for our interfering despite her having several chances, and why she wants us to gather the crystal keys. It also somewhat links into the Jasper Ward prophecy and Ame's post with how there is a bad timeline where we don't exist, and how we arrive in the new timeline and save everything hence the golden child(although it kinda contradicts why Lin would need us if we are the saviour of the region). However, if this is true then I'm not too sure what the ivory key could be (maybe Fern for being the original hero? or something metaphorical?). Here is a post which theorizes on a lot of the missing pieces.

 

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From reading that post i guess it confirms the fact that noel is ivory, as he is the only one missing in the 'meeting' and hence was probably used by lin to make new world.

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22 minutes ago, andracass said:

stairs

No elevators, not even an escalator.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Bananacake887 said:

How might one go about entering Labradorra? I don't believe there is any hints in-game currently, except for us having to battle it at some point, but as seen with PULSE Clawitzer the PULSE can be disabled without actually destroying it. I suspect the disabling of the barrier would probably be an inside job. We have just dealt with Bennett and his defection from Team Meteor; someone who has access to the city but I query his courage/motivation to do such a thing. Taka(Zekrom)/Solaris(Reshiram) could also be a possibility, but there is the issue that both of them were seen with Sirius chasing after them in a menacing way, so they would probably struggle to deal with the PULSE and Sirius at the same time, and we don't know if Solaris would fully commit to backstabbing his 'own' team. Fern was supposed to be the hero of the prophecy, but there hasn't been any sign of him standing up to Team Meteor since he joined. If the Calcenon Control Centre connected to Labradorra uninterrupted, I'm sure Saphira would have found it when she went to investigate. The only other possibility I could think of would be Lin. It's been suggested that she wants the player to do all the work collecting the keys, and she is probably aware that all the keys are held by the Elite 4. I suspect that she might order the removal of the barrier so that the player can obtain the 18th gym badge and advance to the league(which from a hand-drawn map of the region, I believe victory road starts in Labradorra?). Team Meteor would likely fall after we reclaim Labradorra, and El might side with us as Solaris' loyalty is being questioned and El is loyal to Solaris, so getting the four keys would probably happen after we beat the elite four. Lin doesn't need Team Meteor if we are doing the work of collecting the keys, so the defeat of Team Meteor wouldn't matter to her, so she could just hide and strike as soon as we get the four keys and then run off to the Citae Arc d'Astrae Aerie. 

This is a good point and i am interested so see what happens. All i can think of is LCCC as perhaps Saphira didn’t find an entrance as a result of her going berserk upon finding laura's hair. I think you have hit the nail on the head with El and elite four, so far it seems as though lin wants us to gain access to all the keys, so befriending  El, as we already are trusted  by the other members , makes sense. I personally think that the other keys, ivory and gold, are gonna play a huge role and is probably the reason as to why Lin does not care that we obtain the other four. Perhaps all six keys are required to truly from the new world and, assuming the last two keys are literal keys and not metaphorical, our final bout with lin in the "beta" new world could determine who gains access to said keys and thus the fate of the region.

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5 hours ago, Dark Eclipse said:

Yes, but I have a theory that Taka dies in both routes. 

I think the contrary is more likey, as insinuated by anna in the void where she says "the boy with the broken wing wasn't supposed to die... i can still fix this". Anna will most likely find some way, perhaps using nostra, to revive taka, keeping him alive in both routes. Personally i think Solaris is just too weak to dismantle meteor on his lonesome.  I think its more likely  that everyone will meet in labrodoraa, everyone being all of the characters, and together stomp out the majority of meteor, leaving only the admins and uppers which we will face individually and probably in succession.

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1 hour ago, TheRK9 said:

- El will most likely make use of Pokémon like Delphox, Serperior and Sigilyph, as they all work best as single snipers, fit his style and agent MASSIVE buffs on Holy Field (Serp gets Judgement with a flame plate or some shit lol).

 

While this defo could happen, i think, like rocket said, its more likely that El uses trick room in doubles just because the boost will be completely nutty. Like imagine his drampa, sptatc boosted, out-speeding and blasting away everything with boosted hyper voice + helping hand boost...Yikes

 

1 hour ago, Dark Eclipse said:

Florges is a plain fairy Pokemon...

 A fairy flower pokemon, fighting on the flower field.  Honestly, I would be surprised if florges wasn’t used by Laura.

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Explore the subseven sanctum and read the scriptures of Lord Arceus 

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1 hour ago, Mindlack said:

 

 

 

 

Or maybe he's Ivory (detached, immaculate) like we're Gold? I think I'm mixing up symbols somewhere though. 

 

 

Woah, i forgot about the two other keys.  That would makes sense, as we already know Anna plays a huge role in this upcoming episode, it would make sense to give Noel a chance to shine too. However i think that Fern is gonna be the gold, as in the original timeline, as told by the lady in beryl,

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we die on the train and fern becomes protag but ultimately dies. So i think it would make sense that he is actually still supposed to be the hero, but we have stripped him of that role. Leaving him with the gold key but not with the title of the "Reborn's Hero".

 

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Noel becomes unhinged and kills Rado for being an incompetent father and bearer of the cities sacred jewels confirmed???

 

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Saw that before, ngl brought a bit of a tear to my eye. Finally, my garchomp doesn't have to throw a hissyfit everytime he wants to use a ground move.

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Oh it definitely will be