Falirion

Both Whispers were D1 Lykos whispered amine and Amine whispered Seal Not quite sure why you choose to bring it up 3 hours before end of phase So just so we have more time to discuss what this is about [Trial] Hypurr His only contribution for today was a sputtering of random nonsense, so it'd say maybe say something more, worthwhile? since if a trial is called the remaining daytime is paused

I absolutely see no reason to put either of the voted people on trial, eric hasn't even said anything remotely sus and seal is a product of amine's jumping to conclusions that don't even make sense let me explain: amine's initial thought that mafia roleblocked him because he apparently hinted his role to seal and lykos, and then because seal is silent (as always) jumped that seal spilled his role to mafia, there are multiple things wrong with that: 1) amine was blocked by the pirate, a 3rd party (and not even one that town needs to eliminate necessarily, iirc) 2) it was amine that started the conversation with seal to begin with, in fact amine has been tunneling on seal since this game started point 2 makes me very strongly believe that amine is an executioner, and if he is not, then i ask him to come back when he actually has something solid, and not the most flimsiest of excuses to vote someone

i shouldn't reward lazyness here i will take nano's work: Roles that are unique Town: Jailor, Mayor, Veteran, Retributionist Mafia: Godfather, Mafioso, Ambusher Neutral (TP): Pirate, Plaguebearer (& Pestilence), Juggernaut, Werewolf Coven: All of them

Yes indeed, the linked role list on the wiki, lists out which roles are unique apparently we already have atleast 2 unique roles in the game a jailor (town) & a poisoner (coven) This is also a correction on my part since i misremebered what the potion masters potions do, i thought one of them can poison, but that was wrong, so the only role that could have poisoned is the poisoner and we can in fact rule out if that message is faked by the hypnotist or not @Astra125 what was the exact message you recieved?

Actually nevermind, i am blind, roleblock message is possible

Another Roleblock?, soo let's see amine was pirated, drago was jailed, so there is definetly a pirate, and a jailor (unless one of those was a lie) Eric and Nicki apparently didn't have anything in addition, so their roleblocks would be from escort/consort if all the claims are true then we have 1 pirate, 1 jailor and 2 escorts/consorts as for the hypotist, double checking shows you can't get a roleblock message from a hypnotist, so that can't be the case

Okay so Thats a lot to process: 3 people claimed roleblocked, on of them specifically by the jailor the other 2 didn't mention a pirate duel so that would have to be escorts/consorts there is also the possibility that a hypnotist could have planted one of those messages the thing about both Hypnotist and Consort is that for them to exist there would also be a mafioso, if there is a mafia faction it always has a mafioso that is their nightkiller, if a mafia faction ends up without one, then one of the other mafia roles turns into a mafioso (unless they have a godfather, he would take over the killing if there is no mafioso) so the thing with that is for consort or hypnotist to exist a mafioso would exist and have somehow failed a nightkill last night (which is possible) roleblocking is possible here, so something to keep in mind the only other evil roles that could have killed this night (without getting visited that is) would be the potion master for the coven (that has a cooldown without him having the necronomicon) or the Serial killer (none of the roleblocked people can be a serial killer if they really were blocked, unless the roleblocker was also protected by a doctor, as the serial killer would kill someone roleblocking them instead of their original target) just in case it wasn't clear drago is just being flavourful, the jailor is a town role Amine's message strikes me as extremly odd not gonna lie, that is some extreme conclusion jumping combined with softclaiming a role that really shouldn't be softclaimed D2 especially if that role has no actually results due to a roleblock (which could very well have been from a townsided role) also Seal is pretty much always not very chatty

Well nobody died, that makes me think we probably don't have a serial killer in this setup or no mafia (or neither) but thats not garantied, since some roles do have a certain amount of damage resistance, and attacks could have been roleblocked or healed.... it doesn't tell us much, but there is some stuff we can infer here Note that this wasn't an even numbered night, there are quite a few roles that kill only in those, werewolf for example Astra being poisoned, would be confirmation that we have a coven in the game, as that would have been either the potionmaster or the poisoner both are coven roles, and those are the only roles that can poison unless i am forgetting something, so that tells us atleast 1 role that exists in the setup .... anything else? the no death while nice, kinda gives us little info about what roles there actually are in this game

Duplicating Seals? Thats great, then everyone can have a pet seal, they are adorable! ahem, anyway soo just for those unfamiliar with ToS and specifically All-Any games, which is what this is, do note that this game could be all sorts of wack, unless nano put some limitations on the any part. but if this works like in ToS proper, then this game could have a coven, a mafia (so basically 2 mafia factions) and several TP, it is actually possible that the town is a miniority in this game, so that is something to keep in mind, on the opposite end, we could also have a stacked town, it's kinda hard to say, so we have to look closely what roles might be in the game based on what happens. also note that there are several roles that are marked as unique so there can't be more than one of those (mayor & jailor for example), nano posted a link for the possible role list somewhere, that notes these unique roles aswell don't question that i haven't played ToS myself, i have watched a decent bit of it, and am quite observant, so i atleast know how it works

"I will drag you down from the throne of god" - Takano, Miyo indeed, i did do just that GG everyone, the game was fun although the amount of inactivity modkills was a severe oof

Because remember, Okonogi and Dr. Irie become town on my death, but on this lynch this doesn't help you because cult still wins

It's 11 people, this game ends on my lynch even with 4 cultists, let me run the numbers for you i get lynched 10 people 4 cult / 6 non cult tomitake goes insane 5 cult / 5 non cult gg cult won without another night now if seal gets lynched and is just a cult member, then the CL could kill me at night seal gets lynched: 10 people, 4 or 3 of those cult i kill someone, probably a cult member 9 people 3 or 2 of those cult CL kills me 8 people, 4 or 3 of those cult if it's the lower end, then town probably wins, as it should be pretty evident who is cult or not

that's what i am saying, he won't be because the game will end on the lynch if i get lynched, there won't be a nightphase for the cult to recruit anyone ... i have had enough @Aldo get in here and put a nail into one of these coffins, thats probably what decides this (you are still voting AL if you haven't noticed)

Insanity kills don't happen anymore if you haven't noticed, that was REPLACED by them joining the cult

Not the part i meant with slim chances, you adorable little sea creature Also, you tell me, our good doctor seems to be dragging his feet with his vote, maybe you know the reason? or maybe not, at this point i have to trust that aldo knows what he is doing @Astra125 & @Anti-Loser You 2 DO realize that this proposition is empty right? if i get lynched there won't be another night phase, as a) one less non cult-member alive b) Tomitake goes insane if I die, so he will join the cult that will absolutely put the cult over the winning threshold without them having another chance to recruit

I am not going to join in on the pun-fest as i am bad at them but they made me chuckle more seriously, I can see your point astra, but there is various factors at play here, you could be a cult member, seal could be downplaying his role, on the other hand seal could be saying the truth, and you could be a town and correct But ultimately i don't think it matters, either seal is cult member or the cult leader, so either way lynching him will hurt the cult, and if he is just a member, that is even more benfical to the townies left among you, since as eviora rightly pointed out (despite me being rather sure she is a cultist) and AL realized too, lynching the leader gives my faction the win, while lynching a member, gives town still a chance, depending on what the CL and myself do at night and while me saying this may ruin my own chances, i think it was needed to be brought up, the seal lynch is the chance for the town, it's slim, but it's there so i will stick to my vote, and see what happens, my chips are down, i am all in, let's see where this goes

@Astra125 I'd like to point some things in your list out (before heading to bed....) Eviora can be culted and i am getting the strong feeling she is while she was immune for N0-N2 she was not immune in N3 as she passed her rika role to someone else on the lynch, she could have been culted last night Aldo: i can't proof or disprove him being culted, but i can confirm his claim of Dr. Irie, Amine messed up at the start of the game and put all 4 mafia's into the mafia chat until this was pointed out, (i think aldo wasn't around when that happened), so i knew from the start that Aldo was Irie Seal: Seal is quite honestly always inactive, and only active just enough to not get modkilled, so that quite honestly doesn't mean anything

... i wanted to take a step back from this game because i am not feeling all that well today, but i guess i will step in here, take it from me: I myself literally can't be culted, and the other 2 people in the mafia chat are still there, i asked amine, they would be removed form the mafia chat if they were culted, so none of them are, Aldo could be, but i don't believe so, if he is, then he is doing a great job of appearing non cult, but just as an olive branch, i have seen your claim, and i guess vanilla being uninterested in the game makes as much sense as anything that happend in this game, and i quite honestly don't have preference between you and seal, i am just pretty damn sure it's one of you 2, so here [Unvote] Anti-Loser [Eliminate] Seal I think this is your best shot AL, so you might wanna help out here, or take eviora's view of things and vote me just out of spite Now watch this be exactly like whoville, and me believing you is what wins cult the game @Aldo since you are currently the only other Person to vote AL, pinging you to see this, this is my read on this, maybe you agree

Yes the original post does not state this at all, but i did ask amine about this when the mafia became worried about the cult, due to the fact that a normal cult removes abilities, in fact it was after eviora's lynch, amine outright told me that rika is not cultable, ask him yourself if you don't believe me in fact, here you go @Amine hey monokuma, sorry evi for stealing that can rika be culted? Hey on danger of shooting myself in the foot even more, it's character trivia time: what is takano miyo's occupation in hinamizawa? if you guessed a nurse at dr. irie's clinic, then you are correct! as i already stated before, mafia chat thinks it's either AL or seal, my bet is on AL, if you want to listen that is my best bet, or you can just give the cult the win, as eviora wants to do as she admitted @Eviora i am not quoting your long post, but here is the thing, yes we could lynch aldo, or you, or astra on suspicion of being culted, and yes of course i have thought about of aldo is culted, since despite my earlier outburst i know he is smart enough to understand what i was doing, the thing with aldo is he doesn't always play to his own alignements best interest (or he does so in very strange ways), and ultimately it doesn't matter, lnyching a cult member we know can't be the leader (meaning you, aldo & astra, if any of you are culted) is a waste of time, all it does is give us another night phase, with still no closer knowledge of who the leader is, and then we sit here next dayphase under the same situation, so yes i much prefer lynching someone that has a chance to be the leader, and if he isn't is most likely culted anyway. and that is my full reasoning, take it or leave it Oh right, about the mimi thing, yes when i listed mimi as my "guess" for other mafia i was still pretending to be Dr. Irie, remember? i gave you the reads i would have if i wasn't in the mafia chat, hoping the mislead might help in some way, but oh well it didn't so it doesn't matter now, if you paid attention you should probably know the last mafia member by now, as it's the only alive player i didn't talk about, i am not going to spell it out for you, you are smart enough In summation, i literally have no reason to lie anymore, there is nothing left to lie about

Excuse the double post, but i actually now that i revealed myself (or rather got revealed by aldo, thanks for that), i want to ask something i didn't feel safe asking while i still tried pretending to be Irie: @mimi if you had a mafia read on me, even if it was "only" Irie, why didn't you say so before today?

all AL has done pretty much the entire game through is just state his disinterest in the game, he is sticking to the background so much, one gets the felling he wants to merge with the wall, which considering AL just seems extremly wierd, he isn't someone that posts a lot unless he is doing some fucking Wall-o-Text, but he either tries to contribute his own way, or just plays the absolute insane jester (not the role), in this game he is doing neither, and it fucking bothers me for seal in comparison it isn't terrible unusual to stick to the shadows, he always does this, which makes him still a contender for being oyashiro, but his behaviour is just not all that unusual

..... i seriously don't know if you are culted, or just that fucking dumb.... i KNOW you are irie you utter clown, i went with mimi's misread because that was the the best to cover my ass with this.... sooo i guess enjoy losing together with town instead of mafia it really does not make a difference Yes, fine, no more lies, no more games, i am miyo takano, and a such one of 2 roles that if you lynch today will give the cult the win on a silver platter, as me and rika are the only roles alive that can't be culted (well i kinda can, i just die instead) so if you want to give the cult the win instead of having a chance be my fucking guest and vote me, i dare all of you In fact maybe i should just take inspiration from my character (well the limited knowledge i have of her). i am not going to bend over and die to some supposed god without a fight, The mafia chats biggest reads for Oyashira are AL and seal, Valentine is would have probably attempt to cult me early if it was him, and tony i just don't have the feeling it is him i am sure you can figure out why the other alive players are exluded [Eliminate] Anti-Loser Grap a chance to win, or just lose to the cult, i don't care anymore

i didn't say i didn't have any idea, i just pointed out that i have no 100% confirmed info if you want my guesses on my partners i'd say: aldo as he protected crystal with odd reasoning, and myself for some reason Crystal should be obvious as all hell and for the last... mimi? she seems pretty towny, but apparently she was sitting on a mafia read on me for 2 days

As the Role description states, i am not part of the mafia chat nor do i know which other players are part of the mafia, the relevant Excerpt: